Tuesday, January 12th 2010
AMD Readies Radeon HD 5830, Seals Upper-Mainstream Gaps
Having reclaimed the positions of having the fastest graphics cards and the most powerful GPU with the DirectX 11 compliant Radeon HD 5000 series, AMD is looking to make DirectX 11 accessible to all market segments. Later this month, AMD is expected to announce its lower-mainstream Radeon HD 5600 products, but with it, also an addition to the Radeon HD 5800 series: the Radeon HD 5830. This product is expected to fill the gap between Radeon HD 5770 and Radeon HD 5850.
The Radeon HD 5770 is priced in the sub-$200 range, while the HD 5850 at around $300. This gap is currently held by the previous-generation Radeon HD 4890, which faces competition from some NVIDIA GeForce GTX 200 series products. It is expected that the Radeon HD 5830 will be about as powerful as a Radeon HD 4890 in current applications, while being priced slightly lower, and a little more competitive owing to its feature set and future-proofing. The new product could be announced on the 25th Jan. No additional details or specifications are known at this point.
Source:
Nordic Hardware
The Radeon HD 5770 is priced in the sub-$200 range, while the HD 5850 at around $300. This gap is currently held by the previous-generation Radeon HD 4890, which faces competition from some NVIDIA GeForce GTX 200 series products. It is expected that the Radeon HD 5830 will be about as powerful as a Radeon HD 4890 in current applications, while being priced slightly lower, and a little more competitive owing to its feature set and future-proofing. The new product could be announced on the 25th Jan. No additional details or specifications are known at this point.
77 Comments on AMD Readies Radeon HD 5830, Seals Upper-Mainstream Gaps
They probably own ATi, but still it bothers me...
Such a card would be ~10% faster than 4890, and like someone else mentioned, will likely be clocked to just slightly overcome GTX275/GTX280, as they should line up PERFECTLY.
Considering DX11 and the scarcity/price of GTX275, priced at $200 this will be a big win.
Can you see the new lineup shaping up?
5970...No Contest
5950 v. Fermi...ATi
5890 v. FermiGT...ATi
5870 v. GTX295....ATi
5850 v. GTX285...ATi
5830 v. GTX275...ATi
5770 v. GTX260*...ATi (Price/Perf)
5750 v. GTS250 1GB...ATi
5670:v. GT240 1gb...ATi
5650 v. GT220...ATi
5500 series (Redwood GDDR3) v. whatever...ATi
5400 series v. GT210...ATi
*5830 will make GTX260 irrelevant.
Nice stack! :rockout:
It took 'em 5 years, but ATi, you done good (or nVIDIA done bad.)
Stupid transverse property, not behaving properly IRL.
Whatever the case, count on it beating GTX275/280. Other than filling the gap, that's certainly the point of this product.
If you get 1000 cores per die, and have a net cost of $5 per core, a clean core rate of 50% that you can sell for $100, 25% that you can sell for $80, 10% that you can sell for $50, and 15% that are unacceptable for current use you don't just throw those away. You stock pile them for use in a future card that is even lower powered.
Now lest say out of the last 15% or 150 cores per die 80% are acceptable for use in a card like this, and you can still sell them at $40. 40*120=$4800 almost enough to pay for the die, making all the rest of it profit. And your waste is only 30 cores per die.
It is called engineered for cost, nothing you buy today is made to the original specs. A card gets made, no expense spared, no small stone unturned. Once it is made and performs within a certain spec, then the next set of engineers get it, and they are only looking for ways to cut the production cost. Lower quality solder, slower memory, competitive quotes, use more aluminum instead of copper, cheaper caps, etc.... they do this untill the life expectancy and failure rate reaches a certain point, and then orders are made. After that it is all just absorbtion costs that each MFG puts on the card itself. Some companies like XFX make their own brand by changing the PCB to a different color, adding a 50 cent piece of plastic, charging $20 more and being ready for the absorbtion costs a better support staff. At the end of the day they still make more than the next guy, but they also sell fewer. Sapphire makes ATI card for them, my X1800XT had a ATI sticker under the sapphire one.
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As it did in these reviews.
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4830/29.html
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4830-radeon-crossfire,2098-12.html
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If this is above a 5770 then yeah i might take a look if its sub £200 doubt it but it would be nice.
I would only do it if it was better than the card i have, it has to be better than a 4890 because a 5770 is in that territory already.
Although i might just wait a year for Fermi and if its expensive or shite by that time the ATi cards will have dropped in price and second hand will be available too.