bleh, i wish they supported a higher resolution. This will work in netbooks, but it cant be ported to nettop use with that GPU.

I am waiting for AMD's answer to the Atom processor, hopefully they will be able to pair a HD4200 or better alongside a more powerful processor to crush the feeble Atom.

Congo :)

Do we have any TDP numbers for this new CPU?

Semi-LobsterDo we have any TDP numbers for this new CPU?

no, but the N450 is 5.5W

I am waiting for AMD's answer to the Atom processor, hopefully they will be able to pair a HD4200 or better alongside a more powerful processor to crush the feeble Atom.

Amen.

xenosAmen.

agreed. Lets say, a single core 2GHz CPU with single channel 667Mhz DDR2 ram support, paired with a lower wattage version of the HD4200

Musselsagreed. Lets say, a single core 2GHz CPU with single channel 667Mhz DDR2 ram support, paired with a lower wattage version of the HD4200

The CPU sounds good, if they could eek out a dual core it would be sweet. I don't see why they couldn't include DDR3 as it uses slightly less power and would do better if being used as shared memory for the on chip / die graphics.

I have had problems with several Asus 785G MATX boards recently, the onboard HD4200 graphics on 2 of 6 have been flakey another was DoA, I think I got a bad batch :-( No problems with the replacements though :) Gigabyte next time.. I think they test more thoroughly.

Otherwise AMD FTW :rockout:

i've had no issues with my giga boards, based on 780/785G. only had 4 total, however.

true on the DDR3, if it uses less power, go for it (SODIMM ofc)

That's good definitely Gigabyte next time then!

I'm still not too sold on the Atom. My mom recently let me know she was looking for a new laptop. So I looked around and found her a nice HP (AMD based) that had plenty of power for her and would let her do whatever she wanted (plus the price was $350, it was the clearance HP at best buy). I call her to tell her about it and she already ordered a crappy Dell Netbook, the inspiron 10 I believe. She tells me the specs and I immediately cringed when I heard the word "atom". The worst part is that she spent $500 on the whole package! Maybe I am just jaded on the whole netbook idea, but $500 for a crippled laptop is just a bit much for me. Oh well, if she doesn't like it she can return it.

I agree with the AMD thing. Hopefully they will get into the netbook market soon, but I think they are still really trying to play catch up to intel right now.

Meh still under powered, i get the X2 Neo even if it uses 10Watts more power.

I don't get it, why only 1366 x 768 when i can output video with my GMA950 to 1920x1080 full HD LCD ?

RejZoRI don't get it, why only 1366 x 768 when i can output video with my GMA950 to 1920x1080 full HD LCD ?

because its built into the CPU. they cut it back to make it cheaper, now they dont even need a northbridge on the atom systems - letting them make them cheaper, cooler, and physically smaller.

no nettop comes with such a 'high' resolution anyway, so it kinda makes sense... it just makes them useless for desktop transitions, as i stated.

I know that, but this also makes them completelly useless for external conectivity. I mean what goood is cheaper, cooler and all if you can't output 1920x1080 !? It doesn't have too be a 1920x1080 H264 video, sometimes, just having desktop on such LCD TV or even just DivX movies using native resolution just enough to make a difference.

oh i agree with you. I'm just making sure i state that i do get it has a purpose, so long as the system doesnt bother with any video out ports.

I still think atom processors in general need a bit of a buff/revision - Ive heard lots of reviewers say their a little sluggish - even the dual core versions.

but that low TDP = win

FreedomEclipseI still think atom processors in general need a bit of a buff/revision - Ive heard lots of reviewers say their a little sluggish - even the dual core versions.

but that low TDP = win

i've been using a friends 1.6Ghgz (with HT) nettop on XP, and it performs fine for that task. i can even watch 720p HD content with no problems (and no H264 hardware acceleration)

I think part of the reason people find them sluggish, is often the really slow HDD's (or really slow writing SSD's) paired with the units.

FourstaffI am waiting for AMD's answer to the Atom processor, hopefully they will be able to pair a HD4200 or better alongside a more powerful processor to crush the feeble Atom.

What about the neo and neo x2?

FourstaffI am waiting for AMD's answer to the Atom processor, hopefully they will be able to pair a HD4200 or better alongside a more powerful processor to crush the feeble Atom.

www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1928&maincat_no=135

Won't get you 8+ hours of battery life, but it walks all over the Atom.