Can we PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE just get to the next generation of nvidia cards?

I agree. Although I am interested to see what the GF104 revision brings to the table.

400 series does feels like fillers until the real cards arrive, i guess NV wanted to be "better late than never" but i say they'd be better off never until they're absolutely ready.

well, I mean I will give them that the gtx480 IS the fastest single card in the world and despite the heat it gives out overclocks pretty darn well and even moreso if you employ high end cooling on it...that said however the pure amount of electricity it gobbles down as well as the heat it puts out literally would turn my room into an oven and a costly one in the middle of summer...so given that it's definitely a "work in progress" and either needs to be shrunk down in nm's to 32, 22 etc or re-tooled somewhat to be more efficient in how the actual hardware functions. As it is, it just costs too much, uses a lot of energy, and is hot as hell, especially considering the 5870 its' closest competitor for the most part is close to its' performace particularly if you get a good overclocking sample and it is massively cooler with even the reference solution, and uses far less electricity...5870 is the way to go other than to wait for BOTH companies die shrink/next gen hardware and see how things stack up then. However I am encouraged by the pure horsepower of the gtx series and the potential for what a refined version might do, as well as keep ATI from feeling it has nothing to worry about and slouching off in the R and D department.