Thursday, February 24th 2011

Thunderbolt Technology: The Fastest Data Connection to Your PC Just Arrived

Intel Corporation today announced the availability of Thunderbolt technology, a new high-speed PC connection technology that brings together high-speed data transfer and high-definition (HD) display on to a single cable. Running at 10 Gbps, Thunderbolt technology can transfer a full-length HD movie in less than 30 seconds. This Intel-developed technology is coming to market through a technical collaboration with Apple, and is available first on Apple's new line of MacBook Pro laptop computers.

The vision for Thunderbolt technology (formerly codenamed "Light Peak") is to move media faster, simplify connections between devices, and foster new and exciting ways to build and use PCs. Combining high-speed data and HD video connections together onto a single cable is instrumental to achieving that vision. Thunderbolt technology delivers this via two communications methods, or protocols -- PCI Express for data transfer and DisplayPort for displays.
PCI Express has the flexibility to connect to almost any type of device, and DisplayPort can drive greater than 1080p resolution displays and up to eight channels of audio simultaneously. Thunderbolt technology is compatible with existing DisplayPort displays and adapters. All Thunderbolt technology devices share a common connector, and let individuals simply daisy-chain their devices one after another, connected by electrical or optical cables.

Thunderbolt technology is designed to meet the demands of serious HD media creators. For example, videographers can unleash their creativity using high-bandwidth audio and video capture/mixing devices, and get both low latency and highly-accurate time synchronization for real-time processing. At 10Gbps, larger media files are transferred faster so there's less time spent waiting to watch and edit videos. Data can be backed up and restored quicker, so there's less waiting for archived content. For mobile PC users, it means having a single connector on their ultra-thin laptop that extends their high-speed media and HD display capabilities at home or in the office. Thunderbolt technology is complementary to other I/O technologies that Intel continues to support.

"Working with HD media is one of the most demanding things people do with their PCs," said Mooly Eden, general manager, PC Client Group, Intel. "With Thunderbolt technology, Intel has delivered innovative technology to help professionals and consumers work faster and more easily with their growing collection of media content, from music to HD movies. We've taken the vision of simple, fast transfer of content between PCs and devices, and made it a reality."

"We're thrilled to collaborate with Intel to bring the groundbreaking Thunderbolt technology to Mac users," said Bob Mansfield, Apple's senior vice president of Mac Hardware Engineering. "With ultra-fast transfer speeds, support for high-resolution displays and compatibility with existing I/O technologies, Thunderbolt is a breakthrough for the entire industry and we think developers are going to have a blast with it."

Thunderbolt technology is powered by an Intel controller chip, and uses a small connector suitable for mobile devices that will be included in products supporting the technology. Several innovative companies have announced Thunderbolt technology-based products, or currently plan to support Thunderbolt technology in upcoming products, including Aja, Apogee, Avid, Blackmagic, LaCie, Promise, and Western Digital. Intel is working with the industry on a range of Thunderbolt technology-enabled products including computers, displays, storage devices, audio/video devices, cameras, docking stations and more.
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76 Comments on Thunderbolt Technology: The Fastest Data Connection to Your PC Just Arrived

#26
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
PVTCaboose1337But how about devices that connect to it?
Compatible with all Display port connectors.
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#27
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
we are getting closer now to a 1 cord solution. 1 cord to power your rig and one cord to send data. and with the advances in power over ethernet we could truly see a one cord solution in 10 years :rockout:
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#28
Nailezs
i would debate the feasbility of a 1 cord solution, but thats for another thread ;)
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#29
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Nailezsi would debate the feasbility of a 1 cord solution, but thats for another thread ;)
and there certainly is a debate but it is indeed possible. when we will see or if companies can agree on a standard it is another question.
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#31
PVTCaboose1337
Graphical Hacker
So does this mean they are gonna get rid of USB ports in the future? USB is so popular i don't see how they could. I also don't understand why everyone wants 2 Thunderbolt ports. I have a printer, external hard drive, mouse and keyboard. I need at least 4 ports!
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#32
sy5tem
TaerActually, that's 1,250MB/s vs 600MB/s (10,000Mbps vs 4,800Mbps)

I don't see the problem in an external peripheral connector bottlenecking an 8-HDD RAID-0 array or a top-end SSD. If you have 1,000$ to spend on storage, you're not going to use USB.

OT:
I don't know what to think of this in general.
It seems to be the norm to have a competing interface that's only 2-3x as fast.
Firewire's 800Mbps vs USB 2.0's 480Mbps vs LAN's 1,000Mbps.

Now we have Firewire's 6,400Mbps vs USB 3.0's 4,800Mbps vs Thuderbolt's 10,000Mbps.

USB 4.0's 48,000Mbps vs Thunderbolts 2.0's 100,000Mbps is not necessary.

I think everyone's needs can be met with USB.
you are quite right :P many words leading to , a simple answer lol i love it
amen!
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#33
Fourstaff
PVTCaboose1337So does this mean they are gonna get rid of USB ports in the future? USB is so popular i don't see how they could. I also don't understand why everyone wants 2 Thunderbolt ports. I have a printer, external hard drive, mouse and keyboard. I need at least 4 ports!
You can daisychain them =.="
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#35
TheoneandonlyMrK
Imho Its a good thing,tho underwhelming and poorly timed (sata^g fiasco) ,intel now expects everyone to use their socket, and fully change almost your entire pc after many got their ass burned grief style.
ridiculouse too that mobo makers know us and will use valuable pciex lanes to give us usb3 support , culling the prospective greatness of any intel chipset board not good they should have implemented onchip usb3 AND light bolt peak thunderbird multi connector thats just 1????? not rant over
should push a few more AMD's way tho
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#36
PVTCaboose1337
Graphical Hacker
FourstaffYou can daisychain them =.="
That is really, really dumb. I don't wanna connect my mouse to a printer.
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#37
TheoneandonlyMrK
Easy Rhinothought this story was a tad interesting.
certainly is, id expect a very high retail price on them

do you think well get to a point where storage speed dosnt really matter because for my needs at the min sata 3 plus an pciex ssd works well enough
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#38
JerryTsao
It seemed that after paying 1.6 billions to NVIDIA, Intel did sth. on their graphics processors.
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#39
timta2
We will need to wait for 5 years before we actually know whether this is a success or destinied to fail like Firewire.
Failure? Firewire might not be as widely used as USB but that doesn't really make it a failure. And except for being cheap, Firewire is superior in several ways. It's still very much alive. The Gigabyte motherboard that I bought a few months ago has Firewire.

Would you say that Ford is a failure because they didn't have the US auto sales that Toyota had last year?
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#40
SvB4EvA
[H]@RD5TUFFGiven they created USB, they are free to do whatever they wish, if they wanted they could never officially support USB and there isn't a thing anyone could do about it.

You can't force a company to create or support a technology if they do not want to.
This is absolutely true. Tho, I think if Intel abandoned USB, they would really lose serious market share. Actually, maybe mobo manufacturers would just pick up the slack with 3rd party controllers, kinda like they have with USB 3.0 thus far...

Any way, I hope "Bulldozer" bulldozes Intel's face in and gets some serious competition going again.

PS-Im kinda drunk. :toast:
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#41
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
FourstaffThis is market abuse!
That's what those IDE-lovers said, when Intel began to propagate SATA.
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#42
[H]@RD5TUFF
Easy Rhinoand there certainly is a debate but it is indeed possible. when we will see or if companies can agree on a standard it is another question.
I would be happy to have 1 cord from the wall for power and 1 cord that plugged into a hub of sorts where I would get my data and connect my wireless periphreals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, ect.) to.
timta2Failure? Firewire might not be as widely used as USB but that doesn't really make it a failure. And except for being cheap, Firewire is superior in several ways. It's still very much alive. The Gigabyte motherboard that I bought a few months ago has Firewire.

Would you say that Ford is a failure because they didn't have the US auto sales that Toyota had last year?
Firewire may have more speed than USB 2.0 and a higher constant transfer, but the fact you have to daisy chain devices to make it work was the deal breaker to people, it's market share is less than 5% that's a failure given Apple was billing it as the superior product over USB.
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#43
PVTCaboose1337
Graphical Hacker
Ports, ports everywhere. The future of computing, from the perspective of Intel, and your future motherboard:

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#44
Taer
btarunrThat's what those IDE-lovers said, when Intel began to propagate SATA.
You can't compare that.

IDE was going nowhere in terms of bandwidth. It had a large, outdated, annoying data connector and required an entire 4-pin molex for half an amp of power.

This isn't IDE to SATA.

This is SATA 1.5Gbps vs SATA 3.0Gbps.

And I specifically don't compare between SATA 3.0Gbps and SATA 6.0Gbps, because back then no one had a single HDD that topped 187MB/s read/write, and now, I seriously, seriously doubt that anyone would care that they're only getting 600MB/s via an external connector.
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#45
Taer
PVTCaboose1337Ports, ports everywhere. The future of computing, from the perspective of Intel, and your future motherboard:

techPowerUp! Forums
I wholeheartedly agree with that message.

There should only be ONE port for external devices.

We need to have one connector that has latency of SATA, the bandwidth of Thunderbolt, and the longevity of the horrendous serial port.

Instead of creating Thunderbolt, Intel should have just made USB faster.

Btw,
As of right now, you'd to be a cable-phobe or have a self-built 1TB SSD in an external enclosure that supports Thunderbolt (which may or may not come out), to gain ANYTHING over USB 3.0.
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#46
Fourstaff
TaerThere should only be ONE port for external devices.
The idea is that Thunderbolt will be the only port for connecting every device. I believe there will be a converter from Thunderbolt to USB, but I am not sure.

PVT, they way it is, you connect your printer to your PC, then KB to your printer, and mouse to your KB. Works out fine, no? :p
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#47
Taer
FourstaffThe idea is that Thunderbolt will be the only port for connecting every device.
I think we already have a connector for that.
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#49
Taer
Musselssorry, 'thunderbolt' (crap name)
I couldn't agree more.

We're going from USB to.. Thunderbolt. Unbelievable.
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#50
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
PVTCaboose1337That is really, really dumb. I don't wanna connect my mouse to a printer.
you can choose where to chain them. get hubs, etc.



look at it this way: you could have your PC 30 meters away, run a cable through the wall cavitys and have audio, video, input (mouse/KB), network and data connections) all via the one cable.
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