Someone's gonna get their ass kicked...

Two PCI slots on a 2013 board. GTFO

RejZoRTwo PCI slots on a 2013 board. GTFO

That's just a stock image of an ECS motherboard.

btarunrThat's just a stock image of an ECS motherboard.

Stock image probably needs to be updated soon then :)

Also, why the hate against PCI? Most of us use 1 PCIe for graphics card and that is more or less it. They can populate the rest with nothing and 90% of us will not even notice.

Then why not stick an AGP slots just in case. And maybe some more floppy and IDE connectors as well while we're at it...

Becuase there are still PCI cards in the market that are good?

Yet you didn't name any... ;)

If the chipset used still includes PCI support, fine. But manufacturers adding a 3rd party controller alongside chipsets that don't? Yeecch...

Dj-ElectriCBecuase there are still PCI cards in the market that are good?

Like there aren't replacments for all of them? I used to have X-Fi Xtreme Music on PCI and i've swaped it for X-Fi Forte. Apart from a bit higher end components (DAC's and caps), exactly the same thing. Just for PCIe. ASUS Xonar cards are all in several PCIe flavors. You don't need network cards and other rubbish on modern boards since everything is already integrated. So what else do you need so hard on PCI that you can't get on widely used PCIe? And especially considering that if you have the money to buy the very latest top end Intel processor, you must also have money to replace that worthless PCI card from last decade and buy a new PCIe one.

RejZoRLike there aren't replacments for all of them? I used to have X-Fi Xtreme Music on PCI and i've swaped it for X-Fi Forte. Apart from a bit higher end components (DAC's and caps), exactly the same thing. Just for PCIe. ASUS Xonar cards are all in several PCIe flavors. You don't need network cards and other rubbish on modern boards since everything is already integrated. So what else do you need so hard on PCI that you can't get on widely used PCIe? And especially considering that if you have the money to buy the very latest top end Intel processor, you must also have money to replace that worthless PCI card from last decade and buy a new PCIe one.

The problem with most (if not all) Xonar cards and most other sound cards is that they don't offer native PCIe support, they just emulate it. You get another layer of inteference. We still have the superior PS/2 port, so there is no harm in including PCI especially when most of us don't use all of the PCIe slots.

It's just a PCIe bridge. If you can sense the interference in a double blind test i'll eat my own turd.
Besides, if they can't make it native, it only tells me that their cards are rubbish and they put zero effort in their design. They keep on sticking old (ancient) C-Media chips on their cards. Lame.

As for the PS/2, plz lord, let it die already as well. We aren't selling any PS/2 peripherals for like 3 years if not more. We don't even offer PS/2 to USB adapters anymore. USB has been around for long enough to be a defacto standard these days.

I just bought a maximus v gene, for my man pc, i guess it k.. i will use it as htpc in the future and get a main one half '13

i somwhere agree with rejzor!!well at least at high end components there sould not be some old interfaces..,if u have money to buy core i7 and some high end motherboard ,u got to have few bucks to buy like new sound card or wi-fi,or back up graphic card(if u got bad flash on your high end gpu..,like i did)...they are forcing all new technology but keep us watch oldtimer stuff on those new components!!

RejZoRIt's just a PCIe bridge. If you can sense the interference in a double blind test i'll eat my own turd.
Besides, if they can't make it native, it only tells me that their cards are rubbish and they put zero effort in their design. They keep on sticking old (ancient) C-Media chips on their cards. Lame.

As for the PS/2, plz lord, let it die already as well. We aren't selling any PS/2 peripherals for like 3 years if not more. We don't even offer PS/2 to USB adapters anymore. USB has been around for long enough to be a defacto standard these days.

Keyboards that can use a PS/2 port are capable of more simultaneous key presses than with a USB connection; something of interest to gamers, and older more established PC users with older but still perfectly usable keyboards and mice. Obviously there's enough of a market to justify the small cost of including a PS/2 port.
And obviously, there's enough of a market to justify the small cost of including a PCI slot; there are millions of PCI audio cards out there still in use, and not much is being done to improve the technology. If it allows people to use their old components, and it doesn't cost much per unit, why wouldn't a motherboard manufacturer do it?

By your argument, anything old or 'not current' is useless...
Books are available in electronic editions, and books are also still available in traditional physical formats. Should they be eliminated because they are 'old' technology?
The same analogy applies to anything else with updated usage; don't be an ass by arguing against such things.
Everything around us is in flux, there are new methods and technologies that live side by side with older methods and technologies, it's part of what makes life and society around us interesting and complex instead of boring and predictable. There are always mixtures of old and new, in everything, get over it, it's human.

I would just prefer if the market moved on and made native PCI-e sound cards.

Last I checked my Creative x-fi titanium HD is PCIe has the CA20k2 audio processor which is 100% native PCI-Express. Also, the previous x-fi titanium uses this same processor and is also native PCI-Express. Only the lower end x-fi used the CA20k1 which required a bridge chip.

www.creative.com/oem/products/chips.asp

cdawallI would just prefer if the market moved on and made native PCI-e sound cards.

Technically, it has. But the thing with older sound cards (internal X-Fi and before) is that they're like PS/2 keyboards and CRT monitors... they just don't make them like they used to, or anymore. Their successor technologies haven't managed to do all the things they could do since they're completely new rather than being based off something pre-existing. CRTs don't have native resolution or motion blur concerns. PS/2 keyboards easily do full n-key rollover. Older sound cards having real hardware audio processing (this one has more to do with Microsoft dropping hardware audio for Vista than technological differences, but the idea is still the same). That's why some people hold on to them. All these subtle differences are lost or are of little concern to the average user. The fact that all three are very future-proof, unlike video cards, contributes to their extreme longevity.

By the way, maybe someone on TPU could do a review of the Z-series. The flagship Sound Blaster ZxR is supposed to be out this month.

I am surprised this thread has so many comments. Does anybody use ESC? LOL

The ESC key, yes. ECS boards, no... thought that golden thing they put out isnt a slouch (just not high on my list).

drdeathxI am surprised this thread has so many comments. Does anybody use ESC? LOL

EarthDogThe ESC key, yes. ECS boards, no... thought that golden thing they put out isnt a slouch (just not high on my list).

I LOVE THE ESC KEY! It gets you out of "Sticky" situations!

So many ignorant comments about a stock image.

TheMailMan78So many ignorant comments about a stock image.

DUDE! have you seen? IT HAS PCI SLOTS OMGWTFBBQ!

FourstaffStock image probably needs to be updated soon then :)

Also, why the hate against PCI? Most of us use 1 PCIe for graphics card and that is more or less it. They can populate the rest with nothing and 90% of us will not even notice.

I would never buy a motherboard with less than 1 PCIe 1x, 2 PCIe 16x, and a RAID controller. I don't often do CFX / SLI, but I would like to have the option to for some cheap performance

TheMailMan78So many ignorant comments about a stock image.

This is akin to posting a news article about information on the 2014 Ford F-150 and including a stock image of a 2004 model.

3870x2I would never buy a motherboard with less than 1 PCIe 1x, 2 PCIe 16x, and a RAID controller. I don't often do CFX / SLI, but I would like to have the option to for some cheap performance



This is akin to posting a news article about information on the 2014 Ford F-150 and including a stock image of a 2004 model.

They are able to click the close up and see its not the same board as what Bta is talking about. It says the modle number (Z77H2) RIGHT THERE yet no one reads that. All they see is OMGWTFBBQ ITS GOT A PCI SLOT! even after he said its a STOCK IMAGE people remained retarded.

TheMailMan78They are able to click the close up and see its not the same board as what Bta is talking about. It says the modle number (Z77H2) RIGHT THERE yet no one reads that. All they see is OMGWTFBBQ ITS GOT A PCI SLOT!

That would make sense to you if you looked into it. I would expect the picture to have something to do with the news article, or not have one at all. I didn't even know stock pictures were included in news articles like this. While we are at it, lets add this:



Slightly relevant, and brings in the ADD crowd because it has a picture. This is a computer chip, but is not misleading because it could be anything.

3870x2That would make sense to you if you looked into it. I would expect the picture to have something to do with the news article, or not have one at all. I didn't even know stock pictures were included in news articles like this. While we are at it, lets add this:

thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_430/1250917478W25Q9M.jpg

Slightly relevant, and brings in the ADD crowd because it has a picture. This is a computer chip, but is not misleading because it could be anything.

You are 100% right people can build a computer but don't know how to read. I bet Bta, Chirs or I could post anything in the body of an article and people would just read the title and click on the picture like mentally challenged lemmings.