Friday, April 5th 2013
There Won't Be a DirectX 12; Battlefield 4 Part of Next Bundle: AMD Vice President
Advancements in PC graphics technology could be on the verge of a slump, according to GPU major AMD. In an interview with German publication Heise.de, AMD vice president of global channel sales, stated that his company doesn't believe there will be a DirectX 12 API, at least not as far as the company can see. The timing of this statement is particularly important, as both AMD and NVIDIA are expected to unveil next-generation graphics products by the end of the year.
Neither Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system, nor the rumored Windows "Blue" 8.1, could ship with a newer DirectX version. Taylor was responding to a question from Heise about next-generation GPUs and technologies they could be built around, to which he replied that normally, new DirectX versions stimulate introduction of new GPU architectures, but there won't be a DirectX 12, and so the company's next-generation GPUs will integrate other technologies. Answering another question, Taylor hinted that Battlefield 4, EA's upcoming entry to the hit online FPS multiplayer franchise, could be part of the company's next "Never Settle" bundle.
Source:
Heise.de
Neither Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system, nor the rumored Windows "Blue" 8.1, could ship with a newer DirectX version. Taylor was responding to a question from Heise about next-generation GPUs and technologies they could be built around, to which he replied that normally, new DirectX versions stimulate introduction of new GPU architectures, but there won't be a DirectX 12, and so the company's next-generation GPUs will integrate other technologies. Answering another question, Taylor hinted that Battlefield 4, EA's upcoming entry to the hit online FPS multiplayer franchise, could be part of the company's next "Never Settle" bundle.
62 Comments on There Won't Be a DirectX 12; Battlefield 4 Part of Next Bundle: AMD Vice President
Good for AMD though that they're really pushing things. Hopefully good for all?
However, with things like direct compute, I suppose developers these days already have the tools to basically make any kind of visual effect they desire, and with still only a handful of games these days fully using DX11, a lot has to happen before developers are tired of DX11(.1)
Like i said in another post everyone is in holding state so when the new consoles come out,All the games programmers will be at level 1 with DX11.1 ,Look at the last few years since Vista..New DX new hardware.... new this new that yet the consoles still have DX9 ? Game makers and AMD know this and are betting on most if not all games in 2013-14 will be DX11.1 only.Why program them for XBOX360 when 720 will be out,You want to play BF4 on console You will have to buy 720 console to play it or buy the PC version. See where this is going......Maybe to sell more consoles or you can switch to Win7-8 on PC.........
To make it short: it's harder to progress as quickly, as technology gets more and more complex.
Also, I do believe it will be good for all... while AMD is a corporation like any other, they do seem to have a less demonic scheme (than nVidia and Intel, for starters) of marketing their products/technologies.
He was trying to make you look silly because AMD/ATI are indeed working with Microsoft's Xbox hardware, so they're in a good position to know of Microsoft's plans.
In all seriousness. OpenGL is an option...as long as Apple isn't involved with it.
AMD, NVIDIA, and Intel will find out about DX12 at about the same time as they start designing hardware for it. If Microsoft gave a head start to AMD on DX12 hardware, NVIDIA would inevitably sue because Microsoft effectively shuts them out of the market until they can get caught up.
Oh and Microsoft will use DX12 as a selling point for either Windows Blue or whatever is next to get them out of the shit storm they have created with windows 8.. Now, I'm not saying this to piss off people that like Windows 8.. I mean I like windows 8, but we are a small margin.. So, far for ever person I've heard that likes windows 8 there has been equally or more people that doesn't like it. So, I don't care how much you like it, people are stubborn, and if they don't like it I don't care what you do it's not going to make them like it. Anyone selling a product that the new version only half of there customer base likes, and the other doesn't will kill there sales or product.. I use windows 8 and have it installed on a laptop and like it for the most part after some tweaking, but the majority of people are not going to take the time to tweak there system.
I think Start8 is a great product, but it's something that should be apart of the OS, and not something you buy from a different company to fix your new OS. I see that as something that will break with updates to windows or stop you from getting updates all together.. Ok.. enough about windows 8.. hehehe I could go on all day... But in closing we won't see DX12 until there next Windows to appease the majority of there customer base. :toast:
But since you messaged me I'll chime in.
If Microsoft genuinely doesn't have a DirectX 12 API Nvidia wouldn't be able to sue. Telling ATI there is no DirectX 12 API wouldn't effect Nvidia's business.
Now if there was an DirectX 12 API and ATI had an unfair headstart that might be different but that's a different discussion.