Thursday, April 18th 2013

MSI Launches World's First 27" Gaming All-in-One PC

MSI, world renowned in motherboards, graphics cards, and All-in-One PCs, is rolling out an all-new gaming series. The AG2712 is the world's first 27-inch Gaming All-in-One PC.

The AG2712 features the Intel Core i7 quad core mobile processor and NVIDIA's top-of-the-line GeForce GTX 670MX discrete graphics card with up to 3 GB GDDR5 in graphics memory to maximize your gaming experience. Furthermore, the AG2712 is equipped with an anti-glare Full HD display, for a perfect aim while playing games. With the HDMI-in port and MSI's Instant Display Technolgoy, the AG2712 can also be connected to other game devices such as a PS3, turning the AG2712 in a multi-platform engine for watching Full HD movies or playing the latest games on its large screen. The MSI AG2712 will become available in Europe by the last week of April.

Top end NVIDIA GTX670MX discrete graphics

In terms of full HD resolution, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670MX gives the MSI AG2712 the best possible tools to demonstrate the most excellent performance. The GTX 670MX can pack up to 3 GB GDDR5 of graphics memory, so games with large numbers of textures are not a problem. The GeForce GTX 670MX also supports Optimus, a real time switching technology that switches between the CPU's graphics card and the GTX 670MX as needed for optimal power efficiency heretofore only found in notebooks.

MSI exclusive Instant Display Technology

When gaming, the AG2712 boasts the speed of a PC, but when you are tired of playing PC games, the AG2712 can be used as an independent monitor and connected to gaming devices, like a PS3. When connected, the PC power source can be completely shut down. When you connect to the PC, MSI's Instant Display technology switches on, so there is no need to activate any functions on the PC, just the monitor, reducing power use. If you want to use the PC, you can quickly switch over using the OSD key when you are connected to a gaming device.

Anti-Glare display for gamers

To give you a more enjoyable experience, MSI was first to incorporate anti-glare display into All-in-One with touch screen, so game players can see foes clearly even when playing under bright light circumstances. The screen helps shield your eyes in most situations, but MSI still recommends that players get adequate rest away from their computers.
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29 Comments on MSI Launches World's First 27" Gaming All-in-One PC

#1
RejZoR
Too bad it will get outdated next year and you'll have to replace the entire thing. Gaming and non swappable hardware just doesn't work together...
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#2
Prima.Vera
You must be kidding. Gaming PC with 670MX card. LOL. Almost 0 upgradeability, and probably premium price, for this oversized laptop.
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#3
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
RejZoRToo bad it will get outdated next year and you'll have to replace the entire thing. Gaming and non swappable hardware just doesn't work together...
Sure it does. You just have to lower the settings as time goes on, but it's still gaming.
Prima.VeraYou must be kidding. Gaming PC with 670MX card. LOL. Almost 0 upgradeability, and probably premium price, for this oversized laptop.
For 1080p it's perfectly good.

I really don't understand what you are complaining about. These things are perfect for people who want a fast computer that is not a laptop and like AIO's. Will it have a premium price? Probably not compared to other computers in the same segment. Is it a premium segment? Probably, but I don't see why that is a problem.
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#4
Jack1n
How fast is the 670M compared to desktop graphics?
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#6
ensabrenoir
.... argument both ways has merit.... I'm just happy to see companies invest in pc gaming
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#7
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
timmyisme22A bit above the 5770 and just below the 6790... so not much.

I just find 1080p at 27" while being a close range touch based screen just doesn't fit for me. It's too large a screen for such a small resolution. I mean, it's going to almost always be within arms reach whether I'm using the keyboard and mouse or touch.
According to that it's about on par with the HD7770. Depending on the game.
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#8
Octavean
MXM cards can be upgraded (swapped out). So if its MXM it shouldnt be a problem.

With a little determination and skill such systems can probably be upgraded in other ways as well. People don’t buy such systems for upgradeability though,…

Just the other day I read a post about someone complaining about the resolution on a 4K 120Hz LED HDTV with a resolution of - 3840 x 2160. A product that the poster almost certainly never laid eyes on.

I suspect a lot (not all but a lot) of people complaining about 27" displays at 1920x1080 have also never laid eyes on one.
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#9
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Arent't there like several versions of MXM that are not compatible with eachother? It has never really taken off.
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#10
timmyisme22
OctaveanI suspect a lot (not all but a lot) of people complaining about 27" displays at 1920x1080 have also never laid eyes on one.
Quite a few won't ever really tell the difference, but we are not the normal populous on these forums. Most of us go for performance and stress out the little details. I would take it and use it if I was given it (don't know many that wouldn't), but I would look elsewhere for something better. The GPU would be fine for me, the screen not so much if I were to buy it.
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#11
Prima.Vera
OctaveanI suspect a lot (not all but a lot) of people complaining about 27" displays at 1920x1080 have also never laid eyes on one.
EXACTLY! Got 1 home and have no problem with it. I don't stay 10 cm away from it to distinguish the pixels. Is as sharp as it can be. Best investment ever.
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#12
Initialised
Reading this from a 27" 1920x1200 I don't think I'd miss the 10% fewer pixels on a 1080p display.

Nice to finally see a AIO with an MXM slot for upgradable graphics.
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#13
Animalpak
There's people out there that still play games with 8000 series nvdiia and dual core cpu's.

This is for that people and is already good for today games.
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#14
hellrazor
OctaveanI suspect a lot (not all but a lot) of people complaining about 27" displays at 1920x1080 have also never laid eyes on one.
I wouldn't complain about it if I had one, but I would never spend my money on it.
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#15
EaGle1337
OctaveanI suspect a lot (not all but a lot) of people complaining about 27" displays at 1920x1080 have also never laid eyes on one.
1080p on a 27" really really isn't that amazing looking, and yes I have laid my eyes on one.
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#16
Octavean
I'll just say that I have started to see a few 27" 1920x1080 monitors from name brand companies at lower then ~$200 USD.

Personally I now see such specs as basically being suited for budget monitors and I see little reason to scrutinize budget products with a fine tooth comb,....meaning 1920x1080 is ubiquitous and fine,….perfectly serviceable for the target market,…..

I use both 2560x1440 and 1920x1080 27" monitors and have no problem switching between the two. I also have excellent vision and can see flaws in monitors very quickly,....

Also I believe the early HP Touchsmart line had many models with MXM based graphics. Not the first gen but many models after that. They also had onboard graphics (its part of how they would differentiate the models) so it was a simple matter to remove the cooling solution, the MXM card and then switch the video cable from one port to the other in order to go to onboard video,....or reverse the process to go from onboard to MXM,...
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#17
Emperor_Piehead
If you think about it this would be a nice Lan computer you already have the screen and a decent PC behind it and then your other stuff and it would be much less room
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#18
Bansaku
I laughed hard at the title "World's first"

The 27" iMac utterly destroys the AG2712; it is not even close spec-wise!!! World's first?! Nope. First AIO gaming PC?! Nope! Cute attempt MSI. Maybe if you threw in ThunderBolt, maybe I can respect this attempt.

BTW, I am no Apple fanatic. I am merely stating facts. :nutkick:
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#19
SoundChaos
First Gaming all in one?

I'm not sure how they make the claim that this is the first "gaming" grade all in one PC. Not to be an apple fan boy or anything, but.... anyone hear of the 27" iMac? IPS display with higher than 1080p resolution, 3rd generation i7 highest end quad core, and GTX680MX video card? I bet you anything they will be similarly priced as well. The days where people say "Macs can't play games" or "macs are too much more expensive" are fading away. Better hardware bar none, better build quality, and if you don't like the OS, just wipe it and put linux or windows on it with no effort at all, apple is kindly enough to have a full featured set of drivers for the hardware anyway.

Other thoughts... The GTX670mx is fast enough for most anyone for a while. For those with the pocket money to spend, and want to please their kids, these types of computers are convenient regardless of upgradability.

Edit: (I did not read the previous post before writing, but at least not everyone is in the dark ;) )
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#21
AsRock
TPU addict
This fails for my gaming needs for last year game never mind this years. How ever i do like the idea's put in to well except the compact part and just wish this was done more with PC's in the 1st place.

Only other reason i would not get it i have terrible luck with MSI gear for what ever reason.
SoundChaosI'm not sure how they make the claim that this is the first "gaming" grade all in one PC. Not to be an apple fan boy or anything, but.... anyone hear of the 27" iMac? IPS display with higher than 1080p resolution, 3rd generation i7 highest end quad core, and GTX680MX video card? I bet you anything they will be similarly priced as well. The days where people say "Macs can't play games" or "macs are too much more expensive" are fading away. Better hardware bar none, better build quality, and if you don't like the OS, just wipe it and put linux or windows on it with no effort at all, apple is kindly enough to have a full featured set of drivers for the hardware anyway.

Other thoughts... The GTX670mx is fast enough for most anyone for a while. For those with the pocket money to spend, and want to please their kids, these types of computers are convenient regardless of upgradability.

Edit: (I did not read the previous post before writing, but at least not everyone is in the dark ;) )
IMAC is not classed as a PC regardless how much they are the same.
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#22
THE_EGG
Prima.VeraEXACTLY! Got 1 home and have no problem with it. I don't stay 10 cm away from it to distinguish the pixels. Is as sharp as it can be. Best investment ever.
+1 Another advantage is that your graphics card doesn't have to work as hard which is better in this scenario as this AIO has a laptop based graphics card.
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#23
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
hellrazorGet back in your shill holes.
You het back to your cave.
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#24
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
RejZoRToo bad it will get outdated next year and you'll have to replace the entire thing. Gaming and non swappable hardware just doesn't work together...
AFAIK, the GTX670MX comes in a MXM flavor, so it actually is swappable. Expensive to do so definitely, but it is possible.
EaGle13371080p on a 27" really really isn't that amazing looking, and yes I have laid my eyes on one.
It all depends on viewing distance. It isn't that bad at say 3-4ft away, but it isn't great at 2 ft. It is just like any other 1080p panel. My 60" 1080p panel looks great at the right viewing distance, 15ft+, but if I sit right next to it it looks like shit.
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#25
Octavean
newtekie1AFAIK, the GTX670MX comes in a MXM flavor, so it actually is swappable. Expensive to do so definitely, but it is possible.



It all depends on viewing distance. It isn't that bad at say 3-4ft away, but it isn't great at 2 ft. It is just like any other 1080p panel. My 60" 1080p panel looks great at the right viewing distance, 15ft+, but if I sit right next to it it looks like shit.
I agree 100%,….

However, I’m also not against getting a higher resolution display and possibly on the cheap or quasi cheap:
Seiki 50-Inch 4K TV Eyes-On: How the Hell Is a TV This Beautiful So Cheap?

Yesterday, Chinese OEM Seiki officially priced its 50-inch Ultra HD TV at $1500, making it the cheapest 4K television in the history of absurd resolution.

We got a chance to watch 4K content on Seiki's 3840 x 2160, 120Hz LED beast for about 30 minutes today, and it was totally breathtaking.

Seiki also told us that there would be a one-year, no-questions warranty. The company is hoping to have a 65-inch 4K TV ready by mid-summer.
gizmodo.com/5994765/seiki-50+inch-4k-tv-eyes+on-how-the-hell-is-a-tv-this-beautiful-so-cheap

Tigerdirect had the 50” for $1,299 and free shipping not too long ago but the price just shot up to $1500.

I’m more interested in the 65” 4K model coming this summer though,….
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