Wednesday, May 29th 2013

GeForce GTX 770 Specifications Leaked, Could Surprise with Pricing

NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 770 could end up being the product we expected it to be specifications-wise, but could surprise with pricing, according to retailers in Tokyo's Akihabara electronics shopping district. On paper, the GTX 770 is virtually identical to the GeForce GTX 680, albeit with higher core clocks, and a record memory frequency. The chip features 1046 MHz core, 1085 MHz of GPU Boost, and a staggering 7.00 GHz (1750 MHz actual) memory.

If true, the GTX 770 should be the highest-clocked GPU ever built. These clocks bolster the same 14-month old GK104 silicon we're all too familiar with. To support these clocks, the card draws power from a combination of 6-pin and 8-pin power connectors, and features a rated TDP of 230W. The card features a cooling solution identical to the GeForce GTX 780 and GTX TITAN, which should make it an attractive buy. The part that intrigued us the most is that retailers expect it to sell for 40,000¥, which should roughly convert to US $390~400. At this price, the GTX 770 should wreak havoc among AMD's ranks, and even make GTX 680 and GTX 670 much cheaper.
Source: Hermitage Akihabara
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44 Comments on GeForce GTX 770 Specifications Leaked, Could Surprise with Pricing

#2
Covert_Death
well shit.... i was going to put my next purchase towards an all in one NAS / HTPC buttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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#3
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
Covert_Deathwell shit.... i was going to put my next purchase towards an all in one NAS / HTPC buttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Do both and scream YOLO as you are doing it.
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#4
Covert_Death
MxPhenom 216Do both and scream YOLO as you are doing it.
but ... but ... but.... is that ALLOWED?!?!?!?
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#5
m1dg3t
If price is true, nice! Should force AMDs handz :)

SLi review is up @ wccftec or w/e da f0k iz called
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#6
Novulux
I'm having a hard time believing the price estimates as that would leave a disparity in pricing between it and the GTX 780 in pricing...unless they are going to fill the ~$250 gap with a GTX 770 Ultra, 775...etc. Fk conventional naming.
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#7
Relayer
Why is what is essentially an O/C'd GTX-680 @ $400 such a great deal? GTX-680's are already available for $420.00. There are already HD7970's available for $360 (AR) with 4 free games. :confused:
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#8
Jacez
Isn't the GTX 770 supposed to be released tomorrow?

W1zz is most likely already finished with the review.
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#9
HumanSmoke
NovuluxI'm having a hard time believing the price estimates as that would leave a disparity in pricing between it and the GTX 780 in pricing...unless they are going to fill the ~$250 gap with a GTX 770 Ultra, 775...etc. Fk conventional naming.
I don't think so. There probably isn't that great a performance gap between the 780 and 770 to warrant another SKU (not that that has hindered IHV's in the past), and the GTX 770 is still basically a juiced 680, and as such still faces competition from the HD 7970GE. A GTX 770 isn't suddenly going to beat out the 7970GE in AMD-centric titles such as Sleeping Dogs.

The GTX 780 on the other hand doesn't really have the same problem with a direct competitor (multi-GPU notwithstanding)- the distance between it and the 7970GE may not be that great in every title, but is probably far enough ahead overall to not invite such a close examination as the 770. There's also the "Hey, its almost a Titan" factor to consider- and that does seem to be a tangible motivator from what I've seen on forums.
JacezIsn't the GTX 770 supposed to be released tomorrow?
31st May I think.
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#10
NeoXF
If you can get a 4GB version @ under 400 euros... than it might just be a very decent deal. Otherwise, F off nVidia.
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#11
LDNL
So its a rebranded 680 with higher clock speeds? Most current 670s use a 6+6pin so I was hoping they could have kept the same power usage with a small performace bump or what was left to squeeze out of the kepler. Disappointing if it turns out to be true... :ohwell:
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#12
NeoXF
LDNLSo its a rebranded 680 with higher clock speeds? Most current 670s use a 6+6pin so I was hoping they could have kept the same power usage with a small performace bump or what was left to squeeze out of the kepler. Disappointing if it turns out to be true... :ohwell:
Well, of course it is, Maxwell is still way off as I expected it awhile back to be, and AMD is stalling... So nothing noteworthy around this period of time. That's why I was hoping it could at least be offered at a good price.

I mean, there are some rumors on ChipHell about some new desktop Radeon HD 8000 that just showed up... Those look pretty good...
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#13
alwayssts
Don't see how this is surprising.

It has to be priced similar-to-below 7970GE because of absolute performance and similar market (size/power requirements), something 680 could write off as an advantage versus the original 7970. They will be very similar though because of tdp/buffer allowance and playable resolutions...especially against voltage-limited 7970s...inefficiency at higher voltage (770) versus slight efficiency in shader/bw vs rops (7970) evening it all out. It seems 7970 was always meant to die around $400, so it sounds right they shoot for 400-450(4gb) now, ~350-400 later as the market progresses. More expensive than a 7950/hainan but more performance, competitive with 7970 to slightly cheaper.

It seems clear to me they are positioning themselves (because of >225w tdp) in a slim spot that allows them to attempt to use this highly-profitable little chip to attempt to not only compete in a higher market against 7970 at whatever measure so GK110 doesn't have to, but also give just enough oomf to surpass anything AMD could muster below 225w, be that 7950 or a future product which are/will be around $300.

I'm sure it will be nice, efficient and all that, but in the scheme of things it seems inevitably niche between more powerful or compact/efficient current/future radeons (or other current geforces) without a tangible advantage over.

IOW, 680 did it right (1080p/225w). Hainan will probably do it right. 780 did it right (>225/2560). Tahiti is an interesting 'just good-enough to justify not being built for under 225w' experiment (which would make more sense if xfire wasn't broken) with thoughtful salvage options. 770 is just a market necessity for a chip likely not efficient enough to compete against a similar chip (hainan) in the same <225w tdp, nor have the ipc/bw to compete with Tahiti over it given like voltage. Given margins though, and the power needed to make 4GB (and therefore sli) make sense while still giving 7970 a decent run, they probably made the right business decision. Still...it's odd.
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#14
ensabrenoir
:eek:.....if true so gonna sell my 670 and buy one.... or if the 670 price drops enough go sli.....man so many options..... that's sooooo an awesome looking and spec'ed card!!!!
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#15
Naito
Yawn. Waiting for Maxwell.
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#16
Random Murderer
The Anti-Midas
/sigh
Another rebrand from NV. Seeing as this is just a 680 with a decent OC and a sexier cooler, it'll be interesting to see how far the price of a 680 drops when this is released.
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#17
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Random Murderer/sigh
Another rebrand from NV. Seeing as this is just a 680 with a decent OC and a sexier cooler, it'll be interesting to see how far the price of a 680 drops when this is released.
That isn't the cool bit, the pricing is the cherry here.
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#18
Random Murderer
The Anti-Midas
FrickThat isn't the cool bit, the pricing is the cherry here.
That's what I was getting at. No way they'll leave the 680 more expensive than the 770.
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#19
Hilux SSRG
ensabrenoir:eek:.....if true so gonna sell my 670 and buy one.... or if the 670 price drops enough go sli.....man so many options..... that's sooooo an awesome looking and spec'ed card!!!!
I agree 670 sli is a sweet gfx combo.

The gk104 still keeps giving, a year later.
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#20
Casecutter
Get logical!
If you look at Newegg and see the number of SKU's (28 listed) and if you run their pricing that ranges before rebates from $420 up to $590 for a EVGA Classified 4GB. So throw out the low/high and the price averages out to $504! While of the 13 "with rebates" they average reduction a between a 4-8%. So on average the price just a couple of days before the release, the going price most often is $470'ish! :slap:

There's no way Nvidia will drop a better nicer Faux Titan in the mix for $400. Or, do you imagine there's only like 40 something?... GTX 680's in stock all-together today in Newegg's inventory!

The price is $500… luv it, or wait and get the last of the GTX680’s at say a 15% from their original MSRP in a couple of weeks.
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#21
johnnyfiive
Well this is a bummer. I was just about to put up my RMA received EVGA GTX 680 for sale for $420 shipped. Now it's barely going to be worth $400. Cards are coming out way to fast nowadays. Sheesh.
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#22
Crap Daddy
While I kind of understood the reason behind putting the midrange chip in a GTX680 and asking $500 I find it outrageous that the high-end chip which should have been used in the GTX780 and 770 (like the previous generations did) is now in a card that's called Titan and it's sold for $1000 and in a card that instead of being the 770 is called 780 and sold for $650 (I don't even ask myself why in hell it is $150 more expensive than the MSRP of the last three generations flagship).
So in this wonderful PC world which we are been told is crumbling these guys ask 4-500$ for midrange cards because this 770 is just that, nothing more than an overclocked 256 bit 2GB RAM GTX760 which should go for $250.
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#23
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
And all of this because AMD released their 7970 with conservative clocks way back in what, Dec 2011? and priced it on release at over $500.

If:

A) AMD had released a higher clocked 7970 with better release drivers the 680 would not have beaten it which means;
B) Nvidia would have sold a lower priced GTX 680 (which I think JSH would have despised the thought of) or;
B part 2) Nvidia would have released a very crippled GK100 and sold it at a high price anyway.

This all boils down to historical pricing and the piss poor fact is AMD caused an upset when thy released the 7970 at >$500 and the greedy engineering inept* Nvidia took full advantage of it.

*I say inept because they tend to get their shrinks done way after AMD and always tend to lop of cores to make it work. It takes a full year to get GK100 to market in the GK110 guise.

Pfft.

AMD can either control this situation or exacerbate it with the HD8xxx release.
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#24
BigMack70
I don't understand why people find this card exciting. It's no different than a slight price cut on the GTX 680.

I mean, price cuts are great and all, but I just find this one kinda "meh".
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#25
Crap Daddy
Why would AMD be sensible? It might sound strange but I think that 7970 is pretty expensive for a card that's on the market for more than a year and which, let's face it, out of the box is far from an outstanding performance leap over previous gen. I don't think they can afford to wait for 20nm in Q2 2014 so I think we'll see a respin of Tahiti which will at least match the 780. I'm pretty convinced that if they pull this off we'll see an AMD flagship at $600. Doom and gloom.
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