Who Cares About Ivy Bridge-E What we want is Haswel-E.

matarWho Cares About Ivy Bridge-E What we want is Haswel-E.

You'll have it when the architecture succeeding Haswell is around. So you can then post "who cares about Haswell-E What we want is Borewell-E." Intel won't launch its biggest chip on its newest micro-architecture.

That is one interesting date to mention there bta...

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If they launch a new chipset it might be worthwhile, on the existing X79 platform its a massive failure.

To all the FAN BOYS of Intel and AMD - This is what happens when there is no completion.

I make no qualm of calling X79 disappointing. Assuming they release an X89, or the equivalent, then I think I'll get a new board. The new processor, I'm not seeing the benefits.

matarWho Cares About Ivy Bridge-E What we want is Haswel-E.

Yeah, it's time to stop. We all know that Haswell is out on the 1150 platform. We all know that the high end socket processors have been massively delayed from the mainstream socket options since SB. Moaning on every thread about wanting Haswell-e isn't changing anything.

My hypocritical moaning about x79 is problematic, and I have to admit that. At the same time, it seems like Intel may actually be listening considering the potential new PCH.

I'll be upgrading. Hopefully the lower power consumption will give it more overclocking headroom.

Im waiting also with a pair of 2609 Xeons (quad core 2,4Ghz no HT no boost 10mb cache Sandy bridge architechture) to upgrade to apair of 2687w v2 (10 core 3,4 ghz, HT, boost 25 mb cache and Ivy-bridge architecture)

Now thats an upgrade boys.
Not to mention that games run just fine with a single tahiti Le (i had 2 but one burned down due to bitcoin mining)

Also waiting for the next AMD architecture, so that i may plug in 2 dual high end card for 4 way madness.
I do sure hope AMD makes something with at least 6 gb ram, cause i need a ram for 4K gaming.

As regarding this delaying shit, yah, i find it shitty that they are at first laucnhing mainstream, and we are beeing given the high end togther wit the new generation when the high end feels not so high any more.

As long as we shal live in a money based economy, they will be trying to milk and delay and milk and delay for maximum profits, thats just the way it is.

You guys have to wonder now, are all civilizations in this universe based on this same monetary shity system where a true develepment and swift progress of technology is wanted ? Or are they employing a money based system where a hampering and delying of technology is wanted for a better control of the population ?

With the technology that we have right now, and i mean with the one known publicly, not to mention the technology envolved in black project and all sorts of nasty shit (the technology with which they allready went on Mars on 1961 - you can imagine how evolved it is by now few decades later) we could achieve total freedom for the human race, as a ton of processes could be automatized and we could live a life where we all could do what we like without the need to work like slaves.

Progress would be a few orders of magnitude faster as to what is now, im talking the same progress they must surely have had and have now if you come to think they went on mars on 1961.

No wonder where gonna see haswell E in 2015.
Its not intels fault.

Its the shitty system that otta be scrapped.
Many more examples can be given with other domains such as medicine and education. But here is not the place for such an discussion.

I have the upgrade bug, buy now or wait for this?

Dj-ElectriCThat is one interesting date to mention there bta...

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Yeah, it's odd seeing a specific date. Usually headlines are vague on dates and use something like "early September".

BytalesAs regarding this delaying shit, yah, i find it shitty that they are at first laucnhing mainstream, and we are beeing given the high end togther wit the new generation when the high end feels not so high any more.

The generation delay is annoying for precisely that reason. Intel could've just used a half-generation delay so the high-end chips don't have to compete with the architectural improvements of the next generation. At least this time, we know that Haswell-E will support DDR4 while mainstream won't see support for it until Skylake.

That said, it's certainly nice having a processor with 24+ MB cache.

Where the 8 cores at? :wtf:

Good.

The closer Ivy-E is, the closer Haswell-E becomes :)

LionheartWhere the 8 cores at? :wtf:

You can get 12-core Xeons that'll drop right into the socket.

f u intel, even with X series u become release new chipset every 2 years

Nice! Time for an upgrade. Soon we are waiting for Rampage V Extreme announcment!

The lack of ECC support on these expensive LGA 2011 parts is disappointing. I wonder if they will be releasing a Xeon equivalent of the i7-4930K, and if so, how much more expensive it will be.

Who uses this kind of CPUs could really care less for ECC.

You can get a 6 core Xeon E5-2XXX for not much more than a 3930K right now.

for example

ark.intel.com/products/64594

ark.intel.com/products/64591

Although it might not be worthwhile to upgrade from Sandy-E, it's good news for new buyers. Might stick it out if you're in the market for a i7-3930K for some better power consumption... ;)

radrokWho uses this kind of CPUs could really care less for ECC.

You can get a 6 core Xeon E5-2XXX for not much more than a 3930K right now.

for example

ark.intel.com/products/64594

ark.intel.com/products/64591

If you want good single thread performance, the E5-2000 parts aren't very good. Although, then you could just get an E5-1660 if you really want >64GiB RAM or ECC for the same performance as the 3930K.

btarunrYou'll have it when the architecture succeeding Haswell is around. So you can then post "who cares about Haswell-E What we want is Borewell-E." Intel won't launch its biggest chip on its newest micro-architecture.

Indeed,....

Very good point!

I'll also point out the weapons grade complaining / pity party people tend to throw when there is no CPU upgrade for a given platform before the inevitable socket / change. Even if it is a small upgrade over the previous generation its better then nothing for those that are interested.

Yes we want Haswell-E but I don't think people would like it one bit if Intel announced that was all that Socket 2011-3 would ever have.

Having the option to upgrade to the next generation architecture on the same socket / chipset is hardly a bad thing.

On a side note I've heard of no leaks suggesting that there would be a chipset upgrade supplanting X79. Thats the only reason I'm skeptical. I'd like to see native USB 3.0 support, more SATA 6G ports and maybe even Intel Thunderbolt (not sure how they would pull that off without an Intel IGP) as well as TRIM support in RAID 0 and so on,.....

I thought the X79 chipset seemed a little lacking when it was launched and now in its advanced age even more so,.....

Right now there is absolutely no point in upgrading. Sad state of affairs is fully evident when those brand new super-duper are compared with now ancient LGA1366. It delivers same kind of performance and all of that was in 2008. 5 years of non-progress.

Switching from P4 to CoreDuo architecture was like switching bicycle for Ford Mustang. Switching X58 for X79 is like switching new Ferrari 430 for Ferrari 430 which is 5 years old. Same car, no difference.

ypsylonSwitching X58 for X79 is like switching new Ferrari 430 for Ferrari 430 which is 5 years old. Same car, no difference.

From a performance standpoint no, but from an architecture standpoint it is a lot different. X58 used a QPI link between the IOH (which had the PCI-E controller,) and the CPU. On X79, the PCH only has a handful of PCI-E lanes (and uses DMI 2.0 between the PCH and CPU,) where the bulk of the PCI-E lanes are coming directly off the CPU.

So performance might not be different, but more of the functionality is in the CPU as opposed to the motherboard from an expansion standpoint. Cutting out the IOH was a good idea in my person opinion.

Ivy Bridge-E

matarWho Cares About Ivy Bridge-E What we want is Haswel-E.

There are a few of us who are very interested in the Ivy Bridge E's simply because we want some additional use out of the LGA 2011 mobos.

Haswell E will be a little better I'm sure (likely around ~10%), but it will also require a new socket type and mobo - and is quite a ways off.

My personal rig ay home is "just" a LGA1155 i7 3770k, but I use a i7 3930k rig almost everyday at work, and my boss already told me that he's getting an i7 4960x (which I will get to upgrade- yeah!!).

I have been waiting for Ivy Bridge E with bated breath for a LONG time!

matarWho Cares About Ivy Bridge-E What we want is Haswel-E.

then,,,, see your CPU temperature:laugh::laugh: and what’s the different may be 5% at the best Conditions not gonna pass 8% or 9% all that it’s Deserve to Sacrifice about heat :(:( and buy a liqued cooler for just overclock the cpu to 4.5ghz :( :(

Waiting is the hardest part

The X79 motherboard was made to replace the X58. Personally, I rather like the idea of having the option of using 64 gig of ram. This can make for a respectable page file and then some. A pity the Haswell boards only offer 4 dimm slots at best. I'm still using the 1366 socket and for the most part it serves me well. That I completely let the 1155 slide by leaves me with little remorse. Alas, where I stand in time is only a matter of time before my family assembly line takes another bump in the daisy chain of our intranet cafe. The wife is ready for an upgrade from her duo to quad, the elder of three is ready to upgrade from dual to duo, the 4 year old (believe it or not) is no longer pleased with her Celeron, and the 2 year old is already coveting the old HP crate anyway. So I'm in the market for a new build. I'm not really all that impressed with the Haswell line although this could mostly be a matter of my personal preference and my recent addiction to ram. I am not a laptop user by any means so I already have the brand new parts for my build sitting in my storage room minus the motherboard and cpu. Notwithstanding these 10% increments in performance certainly are a disappointment considering how long I've waited for the IBE to arrive. Even worse, that power consumption doesn't appear to have been impacted all that much (in spite of the 22nm tri-gate transistor technology) I'm very tempted to throw up my hands and settle for the Sandy Bridge chip. Who knows? Perhaps it will drop in price after the IBE release. What more can a poor boy do except wait... Another two months is nothing in the face of two years. yeah, I can wait... :::drumming fingers:::

BytalesIts the shitty system that otta be scrapped. Many more examples can be given with other domains such as medicine and education.

Damn dude ,I was going to say something about Intel but whats the point now . I always knew Skynet was real.