Opps wrong this is not Fiji-XT "Radeon Fury...

Re-brands. Nothing to see here...

7870 renamed again ?

darkangel05047870 renamed again ?

Who knows, they maybe they bumped the core speed by 50mhz.

is that true AMD Radeon R9-370 card? i have heard from many sources that there is no R9-370 but R7-370

Why all the hate on the re-branding when they were able to keep up with Nvidia 780m and 880m, the only difference between them is 12% performance and the price difference is huge. You could buy a crossfire setup with a bit more money than it would have cost to buy a single gtx880m or gtx780m. I have a m18x with crossfire hd7970m and use a 29 ultrawide from LG on 2560x1080 and still play all games on high and ultra with no filters of course. And yet i paid a fraction of the price for what a sli GTX680m(same performance BTW) would have cost, same goes for the hd8970m or r9 m290x. I am waiting for the new mobility series which will be far less expensive then Nvidia so i can finally change my m18x. I don't believe this new mobility line would be a re-brand, no way.

Afaik R9-M390X should be full Tonga not Curaçao. It is just rebranded r9-M295x, which you can already buy with some alienware gaming laptops.

ab3eWhy all the hate on the re-branding when they were able to keep up with Nvidia 780m and 880m, the only difference between them is 12% performance and the price difference is huge. You could buy a crossfire setup with a bit more money than it would have cost to buy a single gtx880m or gtx780m. I have a m18x with crossfire hd7970m and use a 29 ultrawide from LG on 2560x1080 and still play all games on high and ultra with no filters of course. And yet i paid a fraction of the price for what a sli GTX680m(same performance BTW) would have cost, same goes for the hd8970m or r9 m290x. I am waiting for the new mobility series which will be far less expensive then Nvidia so i can finally change my m18x. I don't believe this new mobility line would be a re-brand, no way.

Main reason is because we are just stagnating for 3 years already. That by itself isn't a bad thing if hardware was good from the start, but is not seriously pushing NVIDIA to make shit better, resulting in consumers taking the short one... We could have Titan-Z performance by now within mid end segment if they weren't both sleeping on laurels...

RejZoRMain reason is because we are just stagnating for 3 years already. That by itself isn't a bad thing if hardware was good from the start, but is not seriously pushing NVIDIA to make shit better, resulting in consumers taking the short one... We could have Titan-Z performance by now within mid end segment if they weren't both sleeping on laurels...

they have to sell the stock somewhere and somehow, is all business I know :) ....

What's annoying is the straight swap, 7870 to 270 to 370. It'd be better if they copied Nvidia and slotted it down a bracket (to a 360) but I guess the whole "Fury" naming scheme messed that up.

AnimalpakOpps wrong this is not Fiji-XT "Radeon Fury...

Wot? OP didn't say this was the Fury

Well supposedly the R9 370 got the same treatment as the rest of the top lineup which is the updated silicon that is GCN 1.2 (Err however they are naming it). If that is the case we should see a modest bump in performance overall.

Yup, thanks for nothing DELL.
I guess I am not happy with the rebranding because its basically something we already had years ago and they try to promote it as something entirely new. I am sure it has a few new features/aspects, but if the fundamental design is 3 years old, in the gaming world, it might as well be junk.

Petey PlaneWot? OP didn't say this was the Fury

Correct, but it is referred to as the R9 390m, when the leaked picture shows a R9 m390X which should be slightly more powerful.

yay more re-brands 3 more years of being stuck on a outdated architecture for the masses wooohoo
O whats that you want DX12_1 support sorry your "brand new gpu" only supports DX12_0.5

Yay for continuous driver updates.

SIGSEGVis that true AMD Radeon R9-370 card? i have heard from many sources that there is no R9-370 but R7-370

jabbadapAfaik R9-M390X should be full Tonga not Curacaos. It is just rebranded r9-M295x, which you can already buy with some alienware gaming laptops.

Yea, both these titles seem off... as SIGSEGV indicates we've heard the 370 was to be an "R7". While as jabbadap point out... now they intend the M390X: a "higher-position" in the naming convention, being reported to be based on a chip of lower and older design that the full-Tonga (Amethyst) , that would seem wack...

Rebrand?, more importante it's price!

If the picture Alienware is from AMD...

I think you a word.

Not a fan of AMD products, but I think that reference design looks cool.

yotano211Who knows, they maybe they bumped the core speed by 50mhz.

what is an sarcasm? If not, is that actually something significant?

I still haven't quite figured out... if straight-up rebranding why and what has AMD been waiting for? AMD feels Fiji and HBM even after all this waiting, presenting a "Halo card" would eclipse such a charade in their bread butter market? I mean why all the worry to supposedly "clear" the channel? I thought when Rory left it might be because he was avoiding risk, and would not sign off to update such chips.

Isn't that the beauty of rebrands you don't have to "clear" the existing flow of chips in the channel. They just say at this point forward; revise clocks/bios and slap them with a new look and box's, while AMD doesn't sweat the distribution side of it. I mean do we think AMD AIB's have had 8mo's of inventory built up of old 200 Series moniker that they had to wait this long for that sell off? Some 280X and 290's friends have gotten back in mid-May showed BOD's of early April. Why would AMD hold off if straight-up re-brands, do they really think releasing them as complete series makes it more applicable? I suppose some marketing type believes it’s better to have a defining cut-off, that then "hooks" it to the Halo part, but at this point I'd say working that momentum vanished. It might have been a good move when Hawaii came about, but to try it again on the 28nm process is seriously pushing it. Even if Fiji is a win, if they couldn't modernize (GCN 1.2) at least Hawaii, and whatever is below Tonga, it warrants being victims of their own short sidedness.

Or, are they betting that everyone will be "enthralled" with the whole Dx12 (as MS is showing at E3), and now GCN with Asynchronous Compute Engines boost performance that somehow it all makes it acceptable? Against the Maxwell (2) 900 Series which has that similar capabilities that’s less to seen as any big metamorphosis.

i think i did see one of the mods explain this before.. maybe @RCoon. they use the same basic chip like everyone is saying but they do get updated.. gcn version whatever.

xfiai think i did see one of the mods explain this before.. maybe @RCoon. they use the same basic chip like everyone is saying but they do get updated.. gcn version whatever.

Assuming Curaçao is the rumoured Trinidad Pro, it is supposed to be updated to GCN 1.2, along with everything in the product stack for the Rx 3xx series. If not, I guess Trinidad will replace the Curaçao silicon further down the line in order to bring GCN 1.2 as the baseline spec.

Just speculating of course, I'm not 100% on it myself.

Design Board

Were ?, all i see really is a cooler, no sexiness here ( rebrand or not ).