Thursday, July 2nd 2015
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AMD Revises Pump-block Design for Radeon R9 Fury X
AMD seems to have reacted swiftly to feedback from reviewers and owners of initial batches if its Radeon R9 Fury X, over a noisy pump-block; and revised its design. The revised pump-block lacks the "high pitched whine" that users were reporting, according to owners. At this point there are no solid visual cues on how to identify a card with the new block, however a user with the revised card (or at least one that lacks the whine), pointed out a 2-color chrome Cooler Master (OEM) badge on the pump-block, compared to the multi-color sticker on pump-blocks from the initial batches. You can open up the front-plate covering the card without breaking any warranties.
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87 Comments on AMD Revises Pump-block Design for Radeon R9 Fury X
Their most competitive move would be to put it in the 980s price bracket, IMO. It would absolutely be competitive then.
They had it. They got the power consumption down to a decent level, crammed a shit load of shaders in there, crazy fast ram....and then bottlenecked the whole goddamn card. Screw them. They're running out of things screw up.
It is a monumental failure b/c their profitability relied on it and now they're going to lose their ass even more.
Fire every goddamn exec and lead engineer that allowed this to happen.
Is everyone on the team deaf or something? Why not address it from the start instead of letting it get some bad press on release?
The TR Podcast 178: Going deep with the Radeon Fury X
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Fury X performs similar to 980 Ti and they are priced similar as well. Sure Fury X might be a few percentage points slower but the trade off on the purchasing price is water cooled versus air cooled. In my opinion, that trade off more than offsets the price/performance difference.
The next node of GPUs, whatever they are so long as they aren't 28nm, will be very, very interesting.
On topic: I'm glad they got it fixed. The advantage of being water cooled (quiet) being swept away by a noisy pump is a deal breaker on the aforementioned advantage of Fury X over 980 Ti.
It needs to be bigger, then designed for the added capacity and resistance, more added cost, testing etc stuff... bigger RMA rates etc...
Realy?
But yes he is a fanboy by looking at his previous posts.
The FuryX is selling out, they cant make enough of them, and they are selling at 30% higher than recommended price in some places.
I wasn't going to buy FuryX just because of the closed loop cooler but what the heck, I'm going to buy one, (when I can buy one, they are sold out) I might get 2. Thanks for the advice.
No one can deny HBM and the interposer open up possibilities that did not exist with GDDR5. They could theoretically even move some logic to the interposer freeing up even more die space for the GPU.
Whatever the reason, I think Fury X can outperform a 980 Ti with few clock boost after new driver release and the voltage unlocks.
Anyway, glad AMD is being swift on the user reactions, it's quite seldom. You don't see everyday big companies with thick walls between end users & enthusiasts and them reaching and hearing them out so quickly. I guess AMD is trying to get back on every little details as possible, and retain their position again.
Im getting the Fury x because im supporting Free Sync (Clearly Nvidia could have made G-Sync without a G-Sync Module as there are laptopts now on the market with g-sync screens withouth the expensive g-sync module, yet they choose to sell us an expensive extra thats not really needed, and continue not to support a free standard which would cost them nothing - the display port 1.2a specs) after i sold my asus rog Swift, im owning now the 32inch 4k ips from samsung.
And Fury x its the best card AMD has for 4 K, 4gb are clearly enough for 4k, im not going to use 32AA at 4k anyway.
Apart from that im mostly choosing fury x because of its small PCB that can be made single slot with waterblock, its not extra wide and its not extra ong.
And i could fit 4 of them with custom waterblock, and still have place for an Areca Raid Card, and a pci express USB 3.0 adapter. The second USB 3.0 adapter, i can take out, (thus freeing the slot for the 4th card) - i can do this because of the short length of the card i can use the built in USB 3.0 19pin connectors. Wich would be imposible with the long titans or 980ti, or 390x for that matter.
I cannot take wider cards, like the 980ti kingpin woud be, which would be the only other competitive card that can be made single slot through water cooling, as i have 40mm fans on the side installed.
So these are the reasons i am choosing the fury x, the 1 or 2 frames are not going to make or break a game compared to the titanium 980 or titan x, but its size and build characteristic, as well as the support for FREE SYNC; is what compells me to choose the fury x instead of its direct competitors.
Not to mention i want to help a bit AMD get on their feet. Competition is good for us all.
1) it is 65nm so they'll require more power
2) heat dissipation is a problem so it can't be too intensive
Let me put it this way: most GPUs are designed with the PCI Express controller off to the side and logic branches out from there. The controller could instead be in the center of the interposer and connect directly up to the GPU. The distance from the PCI Express controller would be equally short to all compute units.
The purpose of HBM was to stack memory. Because that resulted in many, many pins for each stack, the interposer was the only reasonable solution to connect everything. Think embedding logic in the interposer as stacking the GPU. The gains wouldn't be as massive as HBM but there would still be gains.
Retail Fury X coolers still whine, don't include fix
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