Isn't kabini really old at this point ?

These have an advantage over Intel's Bay Trail and Cherry Trail in that they have a full-length PCIe x16 slot. So plugging in a RAID card or discrete GPU is possible, which a big bonus.

Kabini? Really? Where is Carrizo? Even Beema is old today. Kabini? Really?

A shame to see sata ports that arn't soldered on.

nice. small board, but they should have better board with 4 sata and make it pretty good for small build

too bad that it is cheaper and more effective to buy an Athlon 5350 + MB.

Dragonsmonktoo bad that it is cheaper and more effective to buy an Athlon 5350 + MB.

That isn't going to draw 15W, which is the point.

AssimilatorThat isn't going to draw 15W, which is the point.

aawww too bad 10watt less than a Kabini on a Fs1b (5350 ... ) 10... watts (well ... downclock it ... :p )
the only advantage i see here is the passive cooler, still cheaper to take a Kabini Athlon/sempron who will have better performances for 10 watts more, and get a Arctic passive heatsink www.arctic.ac/ch_en/alpine-m1-passive.html downclock the CPU, which is free of charge ... and poof no more 10(seriously ... only 10 ? ) watts that make a so huge difference.
specially a 5350 whose igp is a tad stronger and the clock being 2.6 for 25 watts over 1.5 for 15 watts

AssimilatorThese have an advantage over Intel's Bay Trail and Cherry Trail in that they have a full-length PCIe x16 slot. So plugging in a RAID card or discrete GPU is possible, which a big bonus.

well just as in the Fs1b AM1 platform the X16 is a X4 wired

micropage7nice. small board, but they should have better board with 4 sata and make it pretty good for small build

the ASRock Am1B-ITX (Fs1b socket) has 4 SATA (and a physical X16, X4 wired but no 4pin eps 12V :laugh: ) but the 2nd AM1 mobo i used (ASUS AM1I-A) had only 2 (but has a 4pin EPS 12V and a physical X4 open ended)

AssimilatorThat isn't going to draw 15W, which is the point.

Also please keep in mind that the TDP is the max it will draw under full use. Normally I don't see a scenario where either of the two are going to be on 100% capacity all the time, so that realistically there should be close to no difference in power consumption between the two.

PaulBagsA shame to see sata ports that arn't soldered on.

Kabini supports 2 SATA ports only

TRWOVKabini supports 2 SATA ports only

they could have added a controller, as i said the ASRock AM1B-ITX (which use the same layout as the mITX one here) has 4 SATA port (iirc all SATA6G) and it's a ultra cheap board (if not one of the cheapest Fs1b).

yep almost the exact same layout and also indeed 4 S6G port.

GreiverBladethey could have added a controller, as i said the ASRock AM1B-ITX (which use the same layout as the mITX one here) phas 4 SATA port (iirc all SATA6G) and it's a ultra cheap board (if not one of the cheapest Fs1b).

yep almost the exact same layout and also indeed 4 S6G port.

yeah, 4 sata for now is good
at least it will give you better option on storage

micropage7yeah, 4 sata for now is good
at least it will give you better option on storage

you can always pop a raid-controller in.... they are cheap enough ;)

Dragonsmonkyou can always pop a raid-controller in.... they are cheap enough ;)

i would gladely keep the expansion slot for something else ... specially in a SFF build, hence the AM1B-ITX in my mother build ... 4 port 2 used 1 for the storage 1 for the blue-ray 2 port left for expansion, PCIE used for a soundcard (since it has a ALC662), tho i reckon just for fun i will take my GT730 X8 when i will go in holiday in case i want to do something else than web browsing or blue-ray playback o_O tho i played Defiance in low 1080p on that APU (5350) it was a nice 20ish fps fiesta

on another note ... i better not take that card ... that HTPC is in a InWin Diva and the PSU is a 160w :laugh:

well ...
Minimum PSU Wattage: 127 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage:*
maybe ... (i know it's not a absolute truth )

GreiverBladei would gladely keep the expansion slot for something else ... specially in a SFF build, hence the AM1B-ITX in my mother build ... 4 port 2 used 1 for the storage 1 for the blue-ray 2 port left for expansion, PCIE used for a soundcard (since it has a ALC662), tho i reckon just for fun i will take my GT730 X8 when i will go in holiday in case i want to do something else than web browsing or blue-ray playback o_O tho i played Defiance in low 1080p on that APU (5350) it was a nice 20ish fps fiesta

on another note ... i better not take that card ... that HTPC is in a InWin Diva and the PSU is a 160w :laugh:

well ...
Minimum PSU Wattage: 127 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage:*
maybe ... (i know it's not a absolute truth )

agree, i better put vga card on it, i prefer minimal components
so if the board can give 4 ports its good, you can use the other pciex slot for other
if only 2 and if you run raid, you have no port to use anymore

micropage7agree, i better put vga card on it, i prefer minimal components
so if the board can give 4 ports its good, you can use the other pciex slot for other
if only 2 and if you run raid, you have no port to use anymore

I think it heavily depends on what you want to do with that HTPC - mine is doubling as file-server so that the raid-controller was the better option :)
If all fails, there always is the option of using raiser cards.