Tuesday, April 5th 2016

Mid-range "Pascal" GPUs Stick to GDDR5-class Memory

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btarunr
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At the NVIDIA Drive PX compute module unveiling, company CEO Jen-Hsun Huang gave us the first glimpse of a mid-range GPU based on the "Pascal" architecture. This chip looks a lot more conventional than the fancy HBM2-infused multi-chip module that's at the heart of the Tesla P100. Its package is a traditional green fiberglass substrate with a rectangular die at the center; and is surrounded by conventional-looking GDDR5-class memory chips (which could very well be GDDR5X). The Drive PX is a GPU-accelerated deep-learning box that NVIDIA is basing much of its self-driving car tech around; and uses a pair of these mid-range "Pascal" MXM boards.

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20 Comments on Mid-range "Pascal" GPUs Stick to GDDR5-class Memory

#1
efikkan
Computex is going to be exciting.
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#3
P4-630
Well on one side it might be a bummer in expectations for upcoming pascal GPU's if they only use GDDR5 for the mid-range GPU's.
At the bright side they probably will be affordable at a reasonable price.
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#4
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
No "wood screw" scandal then? lol
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#5
Rauelius
Let me guess..

Geforce x80 - GP104(Prime) "Full Pascal" with +10% than GTX980-Ti performance. = $749.99
Geforce x70 - GP104(LE) "Cut Down" with -20% performance than the GTX980-Ti = $499.99

AMD will respond in late may/early june with their latest cards

AMD R9-Z10 - Polaris 10(XT) "Full Polaris" with R9-Fury performance+ = $399.99
AMD R8-Z10 - Polaris 10(Pro) "Cut Down" with R9-390x performance+ = $299.99

then the cheaper mainstream from AMD.

AMD R8-B11 - Polaris 11(XT) - "Cut down" with R9-380x performance+ = $219.99
AMD R7-B11 - Polaris 11(Pro) - "Cut down" with R9-380 performance+ = $179.99

then in October they release Vega

AMD Maxx - Vega XT - "Top of the line" with beyond SLI-GTX980-Ti Performance = $899.99
AMD Rage - Vega Pro "Cut down from Maxx" beyond SLI-GTX970 Performance = $699.99
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#6
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
Even tho GDDR5 is ~8yrs old technology, I truly understand this. With fast chips and 256+ bit interface, there's enough bandwith.
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#7
thebluebumblebee
RaueliusGeforce x80 - GP104(Prime) "Full Pascal" with +10% than GTX980-Ti performance. = $749.99 499.99
Geforce x70 - GP104(LE) "Cut Down" with -20% performance than the GTX980-Ti = $499.99 349.99-399.99
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#8
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
At least YOU understand it's the mid-tier chip, and where its priceline lies! :cool:
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#9
ensabrenoir



.......in his hands.........he holds the ...... McGuffin device.............
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#10
ppn
As long as it is 8GB/8Ghz maybe ok. But 300mm² is high-end now. with chances for gimped 250$-ish GTX 1160 card next year ~Titanx with O/c 20%.
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#11
arbiter
9700 ProEven tho GDDR5 is ~8yrs old technology, I truly understand this. With fast chips and 256+ bit interface, there's enough bandwith.
It does say mid range cards. Pretty much all mid range cards will be fine with gddr5 for time being. It can provide enough data to the gpu to keep it happy for target market they run. Come on we are talking about a market mostly that runs 1080p with some that might go 1440p.
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#12
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
arbiterIt does say mid range cards. Pretty much all mid range cards will be fine with gddr5 for time being. It can provide enough data to the gpu to keep it happy for target market they run. Come on we are talking about a market mostly that runs 1080p with some that might go 1440p.
My point is that we're at least jumping from DDR3 to GDDR5 in cheap cards. :)
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#13
Legacy-ZA
"is surrounded by conventional-looking GDDR5-class memory chips (which could very well be GDDR5X)"

Meaning; you don't really know for sure, so why the article?
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#14
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
9700 ProMy point is that we're at least jumping from DDR3 to GDDR5 in cheap cards. :)
And that is a great thing, most modern cards on the market today benefit a lot from GDDR5.
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#15
bug
Legacy-ZA"is surrounded by conventional-looking GDDR5-class memory chips (which could very well be GDDR5X)"

Meaning; you don't really know for sure, so why the article?
GDDR5X looks exactly like GDDR5. The point of the article is that this is the first confirmation of the rumour that only top-tier Pascal will be using HBM2.
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#16
Hiryougan
bugGDDR5X looks exactly like GDDR5. The point of the article is that this is the first confirmation of the rumour that only top-tier Pascal will be using HBM2.
Excuse me but wasn't it pretty obvious? Getting expensive HBM for midrange cards would make absolutely no sense.
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#17
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
HiryouganExcuse me but wasn't it pretty obvious? Getting expensive HBM for midrange cards would make absolutely no sense.
@bug's point was that prior to now, it was still unconfirmed rumor.
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#18
efikkan
P4-630Well on one side it might be a bummer in expectations for upcoming pascal GPU's if they only use GDDR5 for the mid-range GPU's.
At the bright side they probably will be affordable at a reasonable price.
Did you really expect the mid-range products to use HBM2 at this point? We have known for a while that HBM2 will be reserved for high-end. Fiji didn't need HBM, and "GP104" wouldn't need it either.
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#19
dj-electric
GDDR5X is awesome
Its fast (we're talking about HBM gen1+ speeds beyond 256BIT and HBM-like speed at 256BIT)
its cheap
its high capacity (theoretically up to 32GB on a graphics card)
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#20
P4-630
efikkanDid you really expect the mid-range products to use HBM2 at this point? We have known for a while that HBM2 will be reserved for high-end. Fiji didn't need HBM, and "GP104" wouldn't need it either.
I meant GDDR5 instead of GDDR5X.
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