Wednesday, September 21st 2022

EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

Towards the latter half of August, multiple EVGA employees involved in technical marketing and engineering had let us know privately that they were leaving the company for other ventures. When pushed further, several hinted towards some decisions being made by EVGA's management, including CEO Andrew Han, that would jeopardize their future. Some even went far enough to say they would share more in a few weeks time about how they felt exactly about their time there, the various issues that kept them from doing their best, and also that at least a couple of ex-employees were let go. TechPowerUp was doing due diligence in collecting the facts while keeping emotions aside from contacts who were understandably not in the best of moods, and one thing common across the board was there was something major coming up dealing with the EVGA GPU product line.

Today EVGA decided to throw a massive curve ball by formally announcing the company is canceling its plans to carry the next generation of graphics cards. Given EVGA's revenue sheets point to nearly 80% contribution from being an NVIDIA add-in card partner, this effectively also means an end to a long partnership with NVIDIA. The company's CEO confirmed as much to a few media channels citing poor margins and a challenging, stressful relationship that was no longer fruitful. There are no plans for EVGA to partner with AMD or Intel at this time when it comes to graphics cards and the company stressed they will continue to sell and support current-gen GPUs having retained enough units for RMA purposes too.
Jon Peddie Research also speculates EVGA is going to shift its priorities towards power supplies and motherboards instead that allow for higher margins and a more uniform, predictable sales pattern. Time will tell how EVGA, and indeed NVIDIA too who now has to re-distribute its GPU allocation among other partners and retail solutions, will come out of this split. It certainly does not seem to be an amicable one and we do not expect the partnership to resume anytime soon. This also affects companies who were no doubt planning on accessories for EVGA-branded GPUs, such as custom watercooling blocks from the usual suspects such as EKWB, Alphacool, and Bitspower.
What About Existing Customers
All existing owners of EVGA graphics cards will remain fully covered by warranties, including full replacements if needed. The company has withheld inventory of EVGA graphics cards from retailers (and will probably recall some perfectly-functional cards), so it has buffer stock to serve existing customers in need of total replacements or RMA.

What EVGA's Future Looks Like
EVGA CEO Andrew Han stated that the company has no plans as of now to partner with another GPU manufacturer like AMD or Intel, and the exit from the graphics card business will trigger an "imminent downsizing" of the company (to shed employees associated with the graphics card business). This could also be a subtle hint to AMD and Intel that if they're looking to work with EVGA, they should express interest right now.

Graphics cards made up over three-quarters of EVGA's revenue, and so we're not sure what the company could do next. If one were to speculate, the company could increase its presence in the prebuilt notebook and gaming peripherals businesses, and probably even ride the growth-cycle in the power-supply market with ATX 3.0 and PCIe Gen 5. Next-generation high-end graphics cards are expected to trigger upgrades among those with PSUs 4 years or older, as older PSUs, particularly mainstream ones, will find it hard to deal with the power excursions (spikes) of high-end PCIe Gen 5 graphics cards. The company could also retain its PCB engineering team to further develop its motherboard business. But all these are just speculation. Unless EVGA significantly invests in its other businesses, it's done.

How does this affect NVIDIA in the North American market?
EVGA was particularly popular in the North American market, among DIY PC enthusiasts. Other NVIDIA partners such as ASUS, could attempt to fill its void, but the distinct industrial design of EVGA will be lost, as would features such as iCX; and EVGA-exclusive customer programs such as trade-in upgrades. NVIDIA may also attempt to bring in new partners to the North American market to fill EVGA's void, such as GALAX (Galaxy), or Colorful, which are both major graphics card OEMs in the Chinese market. It will now fall on them to match the design and quality standards EVGA established. EVGA's exit will have minimal impact on NVIDIA's bottom-line, as those in the market for a GeForce graphics card will ultimately buy one from whichever brand.

NVIDIA's first reaction to this development is as follows:
"We've had a great partnership with EVGA over the years and will continue to support them on our current generation of products. We wish Andrew and our friends at EVGA all the best."
EVGA's full statement is as follows:
EVGA CEO Andrew HanEVGA has terminated its relationship with NVIDIA. EVGA will no longer be manufacturing video cards of any type, citing a souring relationship with NVIDIA as the cause (among other reasons that were minimized). EVGA will not be exploring relationships with AMD or Intel at this time, and the company will be downsizing imminently as it exits the video card market. Customers will still be covered by EVGA policies, but EVGA will no longer make RTX or other video cards. The company already made, 20 EVT samples of EVGA RTX 4090 FTW3 cards, but will not be moving to production and has killed all active projects pertaining to cards, including KINGPIN cards.
According to JPR, EVGA was the best-selling NVIDIA AIB in the US market, with a market-share of nearly 40%. NVIDIA would have lead its board partners to take its place.

Update Sep 21st: KINGPIN, a long time associate of EVGA, behind some of their fastest boutique graphics cards and motherboards, posted a note of gratitude for all the fans of EVGA + KINGPIN, and stated that KINGPIN Hardware may continue in some form.
I'm thankful for all the industry friends, old colleagues, etc. that reached out. It means a lot and I appreciate it. The news isn't received well ofc, and I'm mostly sorry for the fans and people that are passionate for our brand and everything that we have done here over the years at EVGA. If the KP hardware is meant to continue on in one way or another, I'm sure that it will :). The EVGA and PC hardware enthusiast community have been great to me and my teams here over the years, THANK YOU.
Update Sep 21st: Jensen Huang responded to a question about his thoughts on EVGA in a Q&A session today:
Jensen HuangYou know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else."
Sources: Jon Peddie Research, Gamers Nexus, EVGA, Tae Kim (Twitter)
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536 Comments on EVGA Announces Cancelation of NVIDIA Next-gen Graphics Cards Plans, Officially Terminates NVIDIA Partnership

#477
TheoneandonlyMrK
DeathtoGnomesI am surprised, I wonder how much has been clipped for being of topic. BTW post #475 :D

I wish the best for Kingpin.
Has Kingpin made a comment or Tim I think his name is, their GPU vrm guru.

And not enough got cut there's pages of tuber talk, relevant, not.
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#478
loracle706
Me too i'm fed up with Nvidia, overpriced cards, some drivers near kills your gpu because of bugs, cards won't last as old days 4/5 years+, now their card dies in 2/3 years or right after ends of guarantee, because of bad components, specialy mid range cards, now they are pushing this lie of DLSS, that every one can do with just changing resolution in game settings, time to change to AMD, graphically its the same, proof that all Nvidia tech (RT/DLSS) etc, are just BULLSHIT.
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#479
Valantar
TheoneandonlyMrKHas Kingpin made a comment or Tim I think his name is, their GPU vrm guru.

And not enough got cut there's pages of tuber talk, relevant, not.
I believe TiN left EVGA a few years back? A quick search doesn't tell me anything, but I believe I heard this a while ago. Kingpin's comment is pictured in a post on the previous page of this thread.
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#480
Shtb
Killing eliminating another USA company (incomplete, obviously. Yet?).
No, it's not intentional, all coincidences are purely coincidental
(Asian companies are rubbing their hands)
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#481
NoneRain
They should go with Intel. Not joking.
Would love to see more competition on the segment.
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#485
Bomby569
80-watt HamsterThree years post-launch, that's what they should cost, crypto or no.
You shouldn't have brand new 2060's to sell in September 2022, that's why they're losing money.
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#486
ARF
80-watt HamsterThree years post-launch, that's what they should cost, crypto or no.
4 years post launch. Jan 2019 to Jan 2023 will be exactly 4 years. 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022..

You can get a brand new Radeon RX 6600 for the same cash these days.

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#487
80-watt Hamster
Bomby569You shouldn't have brand new 2060's to sell in September 2022, that's why they're losing money.
Ok, I misinterpreted what you were saying. That may not be the case, though. If they're getting a good deal on the chips, it should be entirely possible to sell them at a price that makes a profit.
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#488
TheoneandonlyMrK
Bomby569You shouldn't have brand new 2060's to sell in September 2022, that's why they're losing money.
Nvidia released a refresh version Dec 2021 sooo.
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#489
Bomby569
80-watt HamsterOk, I misinterpreted what you were saying. That may not be the case, though. If they're getting a good deal on the chips, it should be entirely possible to sell them at a price that makes a profit.
If they were getting a good deal and making money they wouldn't be ending the business and asking for discounts from Nvidia, seems pretty obvious.
Bought all they could and couldn't to cash on crypto, and clearly have excess of crap.
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#490
80-watt Hamster
ARF4 years post launch. Jan 2019 to Jan 2023 will be exactly 4 years. 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022..

You can get a brand new Radeon RX 6600 for the same cash these days.

You can. And I would. I made some bad assumptions about exchange rate above. Though the cheaper 2060 from the links above is EUR254, and the least-expensive 6600 on the same site is EUR299. Doesn't seem all that out of line.
Bomby569If they were getting a good deal and making money they wouldn't be ending the business and asking for discounts from Nvidia, seems pretty obvious.
Bought all they could and couldn't to cash on crypto, and clearly have excess of crap.
*shrug* It was simply a hypothetical.
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#491
HD64G
EVGA were pushed out of this market with those cost policies and the last-minute price announcements from nVidia who needed more space in the market to sell their FE GPUs...
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#493
HD64G
zlobbySomething is very, very fishy with EVGA dropping their main source of income...
Not being allowed to get more than 5% for every custom-made GPU sold is enough to aboandon any market me thinks. I would do the same personally.
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#494
ARF
HD64GNot being allowed to get more than 5% for every custom-made GPU sold is enough to aboandon any market me thinks. I would do the same personally.
I would do something else. Optimise the head count and move the locations to cheap parts of either Europe or Africa.
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#495
lexluthermiester
Bomby569The 1080 disaster was not a "mistake" or a "defect", was the result of a design choice.
Which was clearly a mistake, one that was swiftly fixed.
Bomby569They also make cards with very small heatsinks for the card that it is, i know i got one of those. Is their aluminium premium or their plastic from premium sources?
I'm not answering that except to say that you are welcome to your subjective opinions.
Bomby569You can't be defending that idiot on this one.
That says more about you than anything else. Look in a mirror, take your time.
Bomby569The guy that was been doing this for so long, made a "best guess" no one agreed with, come on. That's not a guess, that's driving on the wrong side of the highway idiocy.
You're missing the point. And YOU are calling Jay the idiot??
TomorrowHe's been in my ignore list for a while. It seems like it was the right decision as im not the only one tired of arguing with a wall.
You're welcome! Go boil your head peanut-boy.
zlobby19 pages and counting. This is the type of thread mods just love to work! :D
No, not at all. Unless that was sarcasm... Dumpster fires like this thread do not thrill moderators. Trust me on that one.

@W1zzard
You remember what we were talking about?
dgianstefaniJayZ has always been a shill who isn't even particularly good at his main channel's focus - watercooling.

He talks a lot of crap and is unexplainably popular for some reason.

There's people who defend him, and yes, he occasionally puts out accurate, well rounded content, but as a huge techtuber his responsibility is to not make false claims, and if he does, to immediately retract them with a public announcement/apology. AFAIK he does not do this, and has consistently gotten things wrong over the years without taking back what was said. OK, so he maybe changes his tune in future videos, but that's irrelevant.
This is TPU staff... Yeah...
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#496
W1zzard
lexluthermiesterThis is TPU staff
Even my slaves are entitled to their own opinions
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#497
zlobby
W1zzardEven my slaves are entitled to their own opinions
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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#498
TheinsanegamerN
"You know, Andrew (EVGA CEO) wanted to wind down the business, and he's wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA were, are great partners and we're great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market. But, he's got other plans and he's been thinking about it for several years, so I guess that's about it. The market has a lot of great players and it will be served well after EVGA, but I'll always miss them, they were an important part of our history, Andrew is a great friend. I think that it was just time for him to go do something else.""

Well that's....rather damning, if you take leather jacket at his word. Even with a grain of salt, it would be lent some legitimacy given the holes in EVGA's story and reasoning. Nvidia may have played a big part in Andrew wanting to wind down EVGA, but it takes two.
HD64GNot being allowed to get more than 5% for every custom-made GPU sold is enough to aboandon any market me thinks. I would do the same personally.
Then how do the likes of asus, gigabyte, and msi manage 7-10% margins? Furthermore, what about the scalping that went on for 2 years? Last time I checked, when the 3080 was selling for $1000 onEVGA's site that was more then 5% of the original profit margin.
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#499
lexluthermiester
zlobby
:roll: :roll: :roll:
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!! ..begin..
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#500
wheresmycar
TheinsanegamerN"....I think that it was just time for him to go do something else.""
I agree, its always a good time to do something else when you can't weather-in nutritious margins which help to facilitate no-sale or profit-less inventories. It seems Andrew did some basic maths... "ah, if im making 5% on top (or 10) but I end up getting stuck with a massive stock pile of expensive cards which puts me at loss, yep its a pretty good idea to shut shop". Is this Andrews fault or NVIDIA's (successful business reign - we gotto give them that) ruthlessly inquitable affiliate policy making. The way I see it, if EVGA or other AIB affiliates are free to purchase any quantity of GPUs at any given time then its the AIBs responsibility to tread safely in an unpredictable market/price crisis. If NVIDIA imposes fixed quantities as per contractual terms without a safety net, that's an easy one - NVIDIA should get the full 10-yard stick between the cheeks - simply pompously selfish IMO!

Anyway i'm just hurtling in speculation mode!
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