Monday, July 10th 2023
Intel Core i7-14700K has an 8P+12E Core Configuration
The upcoming Core i7-14700K "Raptor Lake Refresh" processor has a core configuration of 8P+12E. That's 8 "Raptor Cove" performance cores, and 12 "Gracemont" efficiency cores spread across 3 E-core clusters. Compared to the i7-13700K, which has been carved out of the "Raptor Lake-S" silicon by disabling 2 out of the 4 available E-core clusters and reducing the L3 cache size to 30 MB from the 36 MB present; the i7-14700K gets an additional E-core cluster, and increases the shared L3 cache size to 33 MB, besides dialing up the clock speeds on both the P-cores and E-cores in comparison to the i7-13700K.
The processor likely has a P-core base frequency of 3.70 GHz, with a 5.50 GHz P-core maximum boost. In comparison, the i7-13700K tops out at 5.40 GHz P-core boost. An alleged i7-14700K engineering sample in the wild has been put through Cinebench R23, where it scores 2192 points in the single-threaded test, and 36296 points in the multi-threaded test. The processor also scored 14988.5 points in the CPU-Z Bench multi-threaded test. Intel is expected to release its 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" desktop processors some time in October 2023.
Sources:
harukaze5719 (Twitter), wxnod (Twitter), VideoCardz
The processor likely has a P-core base frequency of 3.70 GHz, with a 5.50 GHz P-core maximum boost. In comparison, the i7-13700K tops out at 5.40 GHz P-core boost. An alleged i7-14700K engineering sample in the wild has been put through Cinebench R23, where it scores 2192 points in the single-threaded test, and 36296 points in the multi-threaded test. The processor also scored 14988.5 points in the CPU-Z Bench multi-threaded test. Intel is expected to release its 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" desktop processors some time in October 2023.
181 Comments on Intel Core i7-14700K has an 8P+12E Core Configuration
For me, the upgrade revolves primarily around gaming and theres the odd/occasional video rendering and plex transcoding. So its a specific use-case seeking specific test/benched desirable outcomes/solutions. At the moment AM5's X3D seems like the better fit although i'm in no rush to depart from my current 9700K (1440p) setup.
For day to day not-so-intensive productivity, single threaded work applications, office suite, browsing, you know the usual stuff... i have a second machine carrying a 5Ghz OC'd quad~MT 7700K (basically my daily driver). Not looking to upgrade this machine - its already an absolute blast!
The numbers are measured through AIDA64. You keep deflecting the ones I post & keep bringing up this non sequitur!
At same "power" the 7950x draws much more than the Intel part. Dunno why, but that's what the review shows
Random example, POVray
7950x @ 145w = 12064
13900k @ 143w = 11365
Actual difference in efficiency, 6%.
But how is this relevant to the 7700x?
13900k @ 84W PL1/PL2
Simulated 13700k (8P+8E) @84W:
Testing is a different story, that has always been done at bone stock settings, which is kind of the order of the world, imo. Not unlocked, not 65 or 125 W limited, just stock.
Another thing is that a bigger, more complex chip with more components can run more efficiently at the same wattage. That's never been in question, imo. That's why my 6750 XT consumes less power than a 6500 XT in Kingdom Come: Deliverance at 1080p with a 60 fps limit.
At the moment my head is spinning and I have to bow out of the conversation. To make matters more confusing I'll just say my stock 5950x is doing 25176 in CB23. I'd be willing to do some CB23 testing at various max power levels (PPT) with various core counts if that might help the conversation.
Here is the car equivalent of this conversation:
Ryzen 2000 was a much weaker update than the transition from 12th to 13th. If the rumors are correct, the 14th brings a huge boost to the i3 and i5. What does AMD sell like ryzen 3 currently?
The last two are i3, not i5. It's a writing mistake.
With 14600 8P+8E and i3 6P/12T, AMD really has a problem. He had it anyway, but now it's getting worse. Good luck canning motherboards.
Why would I change it now?
Why would I change the processor (12500)?
You always cling to extremes. Most people don't buy i9/r9 initially, but they can upgrade years later to them at a much lower price.
Example:
8600K in 2018 at ~$225
9900K in 2023 for under $200 (SH). I think you can find it for around $150 if you insist on keeping a motherboard with an expired life expectancy.
But you can keep that base plate as long as you want.
Do I really need to remind you what mess AMD made with processors and compatibility on AM4? Those who wanted Ryzen 5000 at launch (very expensive) had to upgrade their motherboard as well, because the old models received compatibility a year later, and not from AMD but from the manufacturers.
Admittedly the earliest Zen chips weren't exactly great but the platform has been solid overall. And don't need to remind you AM4 was released before 8xxx gen chips came out :rolleyes: