Saturday, August 5th 2023

Gigabyte Quietly Launches Low Profile GeForce RTX 4060 Graphics Card

Low profile graphics cards have always been something of a niche market, but they've found homes in many HTPC builds over the years, especially passively cooled cards. Now Gigabyte has launched a rather odd looking low profile NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 based graphics card that simply goes under the name of GeForce RTX 4060 OC Low Profile 8G. The 182 x 69 x 40 (D x H x W) mm card still manages to pack in three fans and requires an 8-pin power connector to work, which somewhat unfortunately plugs in at the rear of the card, although there wouldn't have been too many other locations to place it. This means that this card might not work in some Mini-ITX builds, due to the card being too long once the power connector is plugged in.

The card width should've given away that we're looking at a dual slot card, which is also pretty obvious from the pictures. Gigabyte provides a full height and a low profile bracket with the card, which not all low profile cards have shipped with in the past, so this is a plus. Connectivity wise, the GeForce RTX 4060 OC Low Profile 8G comes with two DP 1.4a and two HDMI 2.1a ports, making this a card well suited for HTPC usage. Gigabyte has even overclocked the GPU from 2460 MHz to 2475 MHz, which seems quite pointless and is unlikely to bring any huge performance advantages over stock clock speeds.

Update Aug 24th: During a recent meeting with Gigabyte we had a chance to go hands-on with their new RTX 4060 Low Profile card, here's some photos.
Sources: Gigabyte, via VideoCardz
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138 Comments on Gigabyte Quietly Launches Low Profile GeForce RTX 4060 Graphics Card

#51
TheinsanegamerN
Taisho4060 Ti has a poor VRAM/$ ratio. 4060 non-Ti fails to deliver the level of power efficiency that other Ada GPUs do. In the NVIDIA world, you can only choose between bad and very bad.
Th elow profile world is VERY different. Up until this point, we have had 4GB 1650s, or 4GB rx 6400s which are total jokes. There was also the low profile 380, which was a total POS that you cant even find stateside.

The 4060 is disappointing, yes, but compared to LP options its a huge breath of fresh air.
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#52
80-watt Hamster
GerKNGit could be a 4030.
Why, because of the form factor? You are under some serious misapprehensions about what comprises a 30-class card. The 1030 was a 30W part, and pulled ~40fps in DOOM'16 at 1080p Low. The 75W 1630, which everyone slagged as the worst thing since smallpox blankets (it was pretty bad; probably the worst release in a decade) managed about the same in DOOM Eternal at 1080p max. The 115W 4060 ups that to over 90 at 4K max. Drop back to 1080p, and it's nearly 240. It's almost as fast overall as the 2080 at around half the power. I'll entertain the concept that it the 4060 could have been better branded as a 4050 ti, but a 4030 it is not.
freeagentDo GPU fans really die that often?

I used my GTX 580 Matrix Platinum 24/7 for about 7 years, fans are still good..

GTX 980 Classified on 24/7 for 6 years of ownership with me, plus god knows how long with previous owner.. fans are still good.

RTX 3070 Ti in use and on 24/7 for 3 summers, fans are still mint.

Hm..
I lost one of two on an R9 380 after 3-ish, IIRC. 550 ti fan started to go in about the same timeframe, but held on until retirement a couple years later. Bolted a new fan assembly to a secondhand R9 270, but can't remember if one or both went on that one. It was old when I got it and I've no idea what kind of prior life it led. Had to replace the fan on a likewise secondhand 9700 AIW if memory serves. That probably adds up to about an at most 20-25% incident rate within my own collection.
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#53
enb141
TheinsanegamerNTh elow profile world is VERY different. Up until this point, we have had 4GB 1650s, or 4GB rx 6400s which are total jokes. There was also the low profile 380, which was a total POS that you cant even find stateside.

The 4060 is disappointing, yes, but compared to LP options its a huge breath of fresh air.
Yep, I was waiting for a 3050 low profile, never came, so my hope was to get a 4050 low profile, but now Gigabyte is offering a 4060 low profile, this is really good news to me, this card is way better than anything low profile, maybe the AXXXX but those are extremely expensive.
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#54
P4-630
Like a silent fart.....
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#55
loracle706
freeagentDo GPU fans really die that often?

I used my GTX 580 Matrix Platinum 24/7 for about 7 years, fans are still good..

GTX 980 Classified on 24/7 for 6 years of ownership with me, plus god knows how long with previous owner.. fans are still good.

RTX 3070 Ti in use and on 24/7 for 3 summers, fans are still mint.

Hm..
Do GPU fans really die that often?
Small fans that spins a lot yes, not hard to understand it !!
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#56
Keullo-e
S.T.A.R.S.
freeagentDo GPU fans really die that often?

I used my GTX 580 Matrix Platinum 24/7 for about 7 years, fans are still good..

GTX 980 Classified on 24/7 for 6 years of ownership with me, plus god knows how long with previous owner.. fans are still good.

RTX 3070 Ti in use and on 24/7 for 3 summers, fans are still mint.

Hm..
My old 980 Ti had one of its fans dead, I was wondering high temps and the reason was that only one fan was spinning. And one of the three fans on my 1080 Ti made always an annoying noise when the fans kicked in.

Replaced the fans on both cards and worked fine after that :)
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#57
kilis
enb141Do GPU fans really die that often?

I used my GTX 580 Matrix Platinum 24/7 for about 7 years, fans are still good..

GTX 980 Classified on 24/7 for 6 years of ownership with me, plus god knows how long with previous owner.. fans are still good.

RTX 3070 Ti in use and on 24/7 for 3 summers, fans are still mint.

Hm..
My Sapphire hd6850 fan went crazy after 3 years of usage, some 8-9 years ago. I couldnt find original replacement fan and i had to Dremel cut plastic housing and fit 3rd party 80 mm fan and connect it to motherboard fan power outlet. If i was not able to that minor repair ,fully functioning card might have gone to garbage.
Now whenever i plan to purchase new gpu card i always look for fan-stop feature and removable main cooler shroud for easy cleaning and fan replacement.
But, since i am restricted with gpu dimension because of HTPC case i will have to give up one of my criteria.
Unfortunately things are getting more restrictive if you are slim computer case user.
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#58
TheLostSwede
News Editor
loracle706Do GPU fans really die that often?
Small fans that spins a lot yes, not hard to understand it !!
I don't actually think I've had one die on me and that includes cards way back when you got 40-60 mm fans on them.
I have seen dead fans on cards, because people don't clean out the dust in their systems once in a while, which is the big fan killer, plus smoking next to your computer, which makes the dust stick really hard to things.
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#59
Squared
Well it's about time. Thank you, Gigabyte.
gffermariThe other thing is the size. Is the low profile that preferable than the ITX gpus?
How much smaller a case can be, so the sacrifice getting a low profile gpu (with the limitation of models) instead of an ITX one is worth it?
The problem with ITX cases is that they're either a cube—which is a poor fit for many TV setups—or they have a PCIe riser which is expensive (for PCIe 4.0) and adds some risk to system stability.
kilisGigabyte website doesnt mention if the card has Fan-stop feature.
Having triple small diameter fan whining all the time even not gaming is a big let down for me.
Good point, noise while gaming would be acceptable but while idle or playing video, this really needs to be silent since this is intended for HTPC use. Someone should review the card and find how the fans do.
TomgangOH, site note for those also considering this cards. If you have a older system with PCIe 3 only, you can exspect to lose 5-10 % performance, do to nvidia doing a cheap out. RTX 4060 only runs PCIe 4 X8. So in a PCIe 3 setup, that would bacically be like running it a PCIe 2 full.
This isn't a problem for new builds but a lot of low-profile systems are a little older and will be affected by this. Mine is PCIe 2.0, so I'd be looking at PCIe 1.0 x16 performance. So this card is a bad choice for me unless I replace my HTPC.

As some also mentioned, the precursors to this were the 1050 Ti and the 1650. So if the 4060 can replace them, then it's the successor to 50-series GPUs.

AMD won't be able to compete in this form factor this generation, because the 7600 is not as efficient as other 7000-series GPUs. Compared to the 4060, the 7600 is slower, more power hungry, and has the same PCIe limitation.

It's great that HTPCs finally have this much performance and VRAM available, but it's a bummer more VRAM isn't available. My HTPC is my only device connected to a 4K display. It's also a disappointing that a low-end GPU in this market used to be like $200 in 2023 dollars and now it's $300.
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#60
Tomgang
SquaredWell it's about time. Thank you, Gigabyte.

The problem with ITX cases is that they're either a cube—which is a poor fit for many TV setups—or they have a PCIe riser which is expensive (for PCIe 4.0) and adds some risk to system stability.

Good point, noise while gaming would be acceptable but while idle or playing video, this really needs to be silent since this is intended for HTPC use. Someone should review the card and find how the fans do.

This isn't a problem for new builds but a lot of low-profile systems are a little older and will be affected by this. Mine is PCIe 2.0, so I'd be looking at PCIe 1.0 x16 performance. So this card is a bad choice for me unless I replace my HTPC.

As some also mentioned, the precursors to this were the 1050 Ti and the 1650. So if the 4060 can replace them, then it's the successor to 50-series GPUs.

AMD won't be able to compete in this form factor this generation, because the 7600 is not as efficient as other 7000-series GPUs. Compared to the 4060, the 7600 is slower, more power hungry, and has the same PCIe limitation.

It's great that HTPCs finally have this much performance and VRAM available, but it's a bummer more VRAM isn't available. My HTPC is my only device connected to a 4K display. It's also a disappointing that a low-end GPU in this market used to be like $200 in 2023 dollars and now it's $300.
No it will not be a problem made with in the last 2-3 years where PCIe gen 4 came out. But it will be a problem for people with older system. But still 5 to 10 % losed performance, is still way better than RX6400 or GTX 1650 can ever offer. For those still running a PCIe gen 2 sustem i can not reccomend bying this card. Cause not only will you have a greal loss i brandwith, but also a bigger CPU bottleneck. Given a PCIe 2 system will be farly old by now and cpu pretty weak.
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#61
kilis
We dont know the full specs of the this card but lets assume that it doesnt have fan-stop and removable main cooler shroud.
Due to dust and dirt ,cooling fins will lose their efficiency earlier because of their small size. Non fan-stop means ,fan will be forcing more stuff to cooling fins unnecessarily which accelerate dirt built-up. Cleaning is very difficult because shroud is not removable and openings between fans and plastic housing so tight it prevents you to use vacuum cleaner in a good way.
How many of us willing to remove all parts, thermal paste etc etc to make proper cleaning ?
Why not design the damn thing properly for customer who has no other choice in these segment and charge them with few bucks more ?
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#62
freeagent
loracle706Do GPU fans really die that often?
Small fans that spins a lot yes, not hard to understand it !!
Yeah it is hard to understand. Do you honestly think I have not used small fans before?

Anyways.. back to the news..
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#63
TheinsanegamerN
kilisWe dont know the full specs of the this card but lets assume that it doesnt have fan-stop and removable main cooler shroud.
Due to dust and dirt ,cooling fins will lose their efficiency earlier because of their small size. Non fan-stop means ,fan will be forcing more stuff to cooling fins unnecessarily which accelerate dirt built-up. Cleaning is very difficult because shroud is not removable and openings between fans and plastic housing so tight it prevents you to use vacuum cleaner in a good way.
How many of us willing to remove all parts, thermal paste etc etc to make proper cleaning ?
Why not design the damn thing properly for customer who has no other choice in these segment and charge them with few bucks more ?
I've run cards like this for years now. The shroud is removable. It has to be assembled, so it has to come apart. They are just screwed into the heatsink. Takes 30 seconds.

You have to make concessions in design to make cards small like this. Dont get so angry over it. If you cant remove 4 screws and apply thermal paste why on earth are you building PCs in the first place? LP cards like this are so simple to maintain a monkey can do it.

I've also never had one of these fans fail. The only fan that failed was a single slot fan on a HD 3450 many years ago. Fun pro tip: due to size constraints all these LP cards use the same retention mechanism. It is trivial to find a donor LP card, strip the heatsink off of it, and install it. I used to buy dead LP server cards and move the heatsinks onto LP desktop GPUS for quieter operation.
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#64
Dan.G
Hopefully, a PCIe-powered R(G)TX card is in the making.
Wouldn't mind having Ada architecture sans RT (it's not much of use on lower-end SKUs anyway).
A GPU with 2048 CUDA cores and 6 GB 96-bit GDDR6 memory would be very appealing if it's PCIe-powered only.
Without RT, they might even bring the costs under 200$.
DLSS is really useful, though!
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#65
Selaya
TheinsanegamerNTh elow profile world is VERY different. Up until this point, we have had 4GB 1650s, or 4GB rx 6400s which are total jokes. There was also the low profile 380, which was a total POS that you cant even find stateside.

The 4060 is disappointing, yes, but compared to LP options its a huge breath of fresh air.
what is A2000
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#66
gffermari
SquaredThe problem with ITX cases is that they're either a cube—which is a poor fit for many TV setups—or they have a PCIe riser which is expensive (for PCIe 4.0) and adds some risk to system stability.
The smallest ITX case is probably the Velka 3 or something similar.
I mean, how much smaller you want your case to be, so that you are willing to sacrifice a potentially 4070 in ITX format?

About the cost, ok. Most of them are on the expensive side for the size and quality you get.
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#67
Dan.G
Selayawhat is A2000
An overpriced piece of... hardware. :roll:
It's similar in performance to a RTX 3050, though. And you can get a 12 GB variant (if you start selling things from the house - TV, AC, your Batman comics collection). :roll:
Sorry, I'm just feeling funny (or that's what I like to believe).
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#68
kilis
TheinsanegamerNI've run cards like this for years now. The shroud is removable. It has to be assembled, so it has to come apart. They are just screwed into the heatsink. Takes 30 seconds.

You have to make concessions in design to make cards small like this. Dont get so angry over it. If you cant remove 4 screws and apply thermal paste why on earth are you building PCs in the first place? LP cards like this are so simple to maintain a monkey can do it.

I've also never had one of these fans fail. The only fan that failed was a single slot fan on a HD 3450 many years ago. Fun pro tip: due to size constraints all these LP cards use the same retention mechanism. It is trivial to find a donor LP card, strip the heatsink off of it, and install it. I used to buy dead LP server cards and move the heatsinks onto LP desktop GPUS for quieter operation.
I hope you are right if it is designed that way.
Although my own pc 10 years old, i help my friends to build hi-spec pc s and repair if i can do it for fun, Free of charge. And i do similar things with my woodworking shop.
It just saddens me, when it comes to maintain and repair their stuff, most of the people worst than sea sponge.
Sometimes i get angry because most of these failures could have been prevented just by little bit better design. Sorry for the off-topic, I used to work on merchant ships for 20 years. I know how much energy and effort goes to carrying all these raw materials to build stuff around us.
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#69
trsttte
loracle706Shit card dont buy this, hard to find those fans to replace a dead one, and fans dies quickly due to high speed spins.
It's as hard to find compatible fans as any other regular size gpu. It's always a crapshoot to find something compatible, only GPUs where that's not the case are the recent asus noctua colabs that use regular 120mm.
TomgangIf you have a older system with PCIe 3 only, you can exspect to lose 5-10 % performance, do to nvidia doing a cheap out. RTX 4060 only runs PCIe 4 X8. So in a PCIe 3 setup, that would bacically be like running it a PCIe 2 full.
That's an exageration, the 4090 with an i9-13900k lost about ~6% but that's the 4090, a more modest card should lose about 2% or 3% which is the same as margin of error and silicon lottery.

www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-performance-scaling-with-core-i9-13900k/28.html
www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-pci-express-scaling/27.html
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-pci-express-scaling/26.html
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#70
Selaya
Dan.GAn overpriced piece of... hardware. :roll:
It's similar in performance to a RTX 3050, though. And you can get a 12 GB variant (if you start selling things from the house - TV, AC, your Batman comics collection). :roll:
Sorry, I'm just feeling funny (or that's what I like to believe).
that's pretty rich considering this generation's name's Ada Loverpricelace
also, you can get used (mined) A2000s at much cheaper now (cheaper than a 4060 for sure), and they tend to be in good-to-excellent condition ...

so yeah
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#71
ARF
80-watt HamsterWhy, because of the form factor? You are under some serious misapprehensions about what comprises a 30-class card. The 1030 was a 30W part, and pulled ~40fps in DOOM'16 at 1080p Low. The 75W 1630, which everyone slagged as the worst thing since smallpox blankets (it was pretty bad; probably the worst release in a decade) managed about the same in DOOM Eternal at 1080p max. The 115W 4060 ups that to over 90 at 4K max. Drop back to 1080p, and it's nearly 240. It's almost as fast overall as the 2080 at around half the power. I'll entertain the concept that it the 4060 could have been better branded as a 4050 ti, but a 4030 it is not.
This is a *50 (without Ti) tier card. GTX 1650 and RTX 3050 also had low profile versions.

www.tomshardware.com/news/chinese-low-profile-rtx-3050-65w

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7647
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7645
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/manli-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7643
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7005
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gtx-1650-low-profile.b6999
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#72
Tomgang
trsttteIt's as hard to find compatible fans as any other regular size gpu. It's always a crapshoot to find something compatible, only GPUs where that's not the case are the recent asus noctua colabs that use regular 120mm.



That's an exageration, the 4090 with an i9-13900k lost about ~6% but that's the 4090, a more modest card should lose about 2% or 3% which is the same as margin of error and silicon lottery.

www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-performance-scaling-with-core-i9-13900k/28.html
www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-pci-express-scaling/27.html
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-pci-express-scaling/26.html
There is one fact to take in to count. RTX 4090 runs full PCIe gen 4 X16 while RTX 4060 only runs PCIe gen 4 X8. So 4060 is more crippled than RTX 4090 would be on PCIe gen 3. If RTX 4090 ran PCIe gen 4 X8. The loss of performance would be significantly bigger.

10 loss might to high. But above 5 % loss i will not say is impossible.
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#73
enb141
ARFThis is a *50 (without Ti) tier card. GTX 1650 and RTX 3050 also had low profile versions.

www.tomshardware.com/news/chinese-low-profile-rtx-3050-65w

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7647
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7645
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/manli-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7643
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-gtx-1650-low-profile.b7005
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gtx-1650-low-profile.b6999
The 3050 was never available unless you imported it, and that 3050 uses laptop 3050 GPU.

So this time getting a 4080 low profile is a huge advancement.
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#74
Unregistered
TomgangThere is one fact to take in to count. RTX 4090 runs full PCIe gen 4 X16 while RTX 4060 only runs PCIe gen 4 X8. So 4060 is more crippled than RTX 4090 would be on PCIe gen 3. If RTX 4090 ran PCIe gen 4 X8. The loss of performance would be significantly bigger.

10 loss might to high. But above 5 % loss i will not say is impossible.
pcie4x8 and pcie3x16 is same bandwidth
#75
Squared
gffermariThe smallest ITX case is probably the Velka 3 or something similar.
I mean, how much smaller you want your case to be, so that you are willing to sacrifice a potentially 4070 in ITX format?

About the cost, ok. Most of them are on the expensive side for the size and quality you get.
It's hard for me to justify the expense of an HTPC—literally a PC I only use with my TV. This is why I have a super old one now. So if I were to replace it, getting into 4060-perfprmance territory sounds really great, and it's a lot cheaper than the Velkase option. And I really don't want a riser cable; aside from the expense and the difficult assembly, I don't want the extra point of failure. Sometimes games crash, and it can be difficult to figure out why. No riser means one less thing to troubleshoot.

So the low-profile world seems pretty great compared to ITX. Although it'd be a lot better if there were more case and power supply options.
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