farewell ati....

wait...the 98xxs are not new architecture (it was my understanding its 2 8800s in one chip) so am I to assume the 9800GT/X is really a revamped 8800?

GSG-9wait...the 98xxs are not new architecture (it was my understanding its 2 8800s in one chip) so am I to assume the 9800GT/X is really a revamped 8800?

yup, ATi isnt done for, the 9800GT is 300$ and the 3870 is now 180$ making them the budget kings again.

so what's the difference between a current g92 gts and a 9800gtx? they both have 128sp, 256 bit memory bus, and similar core clocks... doesn't seen like much of an upgrade... or am i missing something?

im gonna stick with ATI. these "new" nvidia cards are just revised 8series cards. i think ATI as a chance to pull it off this year. and this is coming from a former nvidia fanboy.

fitseries3im gonna stick with ATI. these "new" nvidia cards are just revised 8series cards. i think ATI as a chance to pull it off this year. and this is coming from a former nvidia fanboy.

+1

i dont really know what nvidia is thinking, this could have been their chance to finish off ati by bringing out some killer cards, they've completely blown it by the looks of it... oh well, i always preferred ati... i hope they bring out some real new cards and get back on top! :toast:

GSG-9wait...the 98xxs are not new architecture (it was my understanding its 2 8800s in one chip)

The 9800GTX and below are single gpu solutions, the 9800GTX2 is a dual gpu solution.

so what's the difference between a current g92 gts and a 9800gtx? they both have 128sp, 256 bit memory bus, and similar core clocks... doesn't seen like much of an upgrade... or am i missing something?

Lot's of performance tweaks to the architecture, just look at the 9600GT, it's on par with the 3870; or about 3/4th's the 8800GT performance and if that card can do that well, it's going to be pushing 30% to 50% faster than the 8800 series.

Now if ATI can get their 4000 series onto the market faster than nVidia then they might have a pretty good chunk of marketshare coming their way.

that 9800gx2 is not worth the more that a ps3 or an xbox360, nvidia is once again trying to bump up the prices.

:wtf:.. is all i have to say......

Ooooh theres so much comming up now.... if these cards are heavy hitters that might finally make dx10 truely playable for games like crysis. On a side note if the earlier news article was correct ATI's cards will start rolling out in June giving nvidia a 1 month lead. Should be a fun summer.

if what we are looking at is correct.. the x 2 is the top end card.. no magical wonder 9xxx chips here.. just a very good value mid/lower end range..

goodbye ati my arse..

trog

ati doesnt have a chance in hell

just because they changed the 8 to 9 doesn't mean anything new. some people need to wake up and read the chart. do you not see that it's the same G92 core? it's not going to be that much better than the 8800gt(s) that's already out. the GX2 may be the top card but that's just because its basically 2 cards in one.

Nvidia, where is this single gpu monster card we've been hearing about?

i believe that if ATI can get the RV7XX cards out this year, they may give nvidia a run for their money.

Like fitseries3 said, as long as you see a G9* anywhere, it's still based on the 8800 architecture. The GT200 series should be the next-generation architecture which, according to some, will be scheduled to launch early summer '08.

it is my opinion that 3870 isnt the budget king, i think you get more bang for your buck out of a G92 8800 GTS

I think if Nvidia is going the X2 path then their single GPU solution may not be any better then the top line G80 GTX. It's going to be very intersting to see the X2's scaling performance. I'm still happy with my G92 8800GT's. :twitch:

even though AMD/ATI is usually behind im sure they got something up their sleeve, there not just going to let nvidia reign of them much longer, at least if there smart they wont!

This is one of the reasons why they say PC Gaming is dieing. Now i don't feel so bad in spending almost $600 on a PS3. Hardware needs to stop getting so expensive, or i just might see the light and make my way for buying more Console games. I can't justify the price for just a video card. It may beat the PS3 but at that price i just don't give crap.

the real problem is excessive price competition.. amd/ati in essence have started a price war.. nvidia/intel are replying in kind.. cozy competition is just that.. but fight for your life competition usually mean one competitor ends up dead.. with winner takes all as the end result..

trog

The 3870 having great performance (not exeptionnal, but still great) and having all the features it has, IS an exeptionnal buy for HTPC users, even gamers can find them attractive. Personnaly, the onboard audio via HDMI cable is a must. Power usage is optimised in real time, slowing the card when not gaming, noise levels are among the lowest and heat is minimal. This makes the equation really equal between Nvidia and ATI, one may have stellar performance, but the other has more features....

This is a fight that wil last long, beacause both companys don't offer products for different type of users. That being said, they also both have shares in other markets, such as video game consoles, handheld devices, etc...

Stating the any of these two companys is done for is, by far, a mistake!

Its fine and dandy for those who want to upgrade now from an older card and not just from 8800gt.

Seriously i dont see why we should get a new card from the old 8800 series my Xpertvison(PALIT) 8800gt is the best card ive ever owned!

If it has a g92 its a 9xxx not 8xxx the 8800 gt and gts 512 have the next gen gpu not the other way around.

Yeah guys going from the geforce 6 to 7 series wasn't very special, why would 8 to 9 be?

well looks like I'm switching from 2 8800gts's in sli to 2 9800gtx2's in sli!!!! yeeeeyyyyaaaahhh!

kieran_fletchIts fine and dandy for those who want to upgrade now from an older card and not just from 8800gt.

Seriously i dont see why we should get a new card from the old 8800 series my Xpertvison(PALIT) 8800gt is the best card ive ever owned!

I have a 8800gt and it's great but i really do want to upgrade because i cant cant play all of my games (i.e. crysis!) at 1920x1200 with full graphics and antialiasing and no lag. that is what i want to do, and no current card can do that.

also new games with better graphics will need faster cards etc