Samsung Could Replace Google Search on its Mobile Devices

AleksandarK · Apr 18, 2023

Google's business of providing the world's largest search engine is reportedly in jeopardy, as the latest reports indicate that Samsung could replace Google Search with another search engine as a default solution on its mobile devices. Samsung, which sells millions of devices per year, is looking to replace the current search engine, Google Search, in favor of more modern AI-powered models. Currently, Google and Samsung have a contract where Google pays the South Korean giant a sum of three billion US dollars per year to keep its search engine as a default option on Samsung's devices. However, this decision is flexible, as the contract is up for renewal and new terms are being negotiated.

With the release of the ChatGPT and AI-powered search that Microsoft Bing enables, Google is reportedly working hard to keep up and integrate Large Language Models (LLMs) into Search. Google's answer to Microsoft Bing is codenamed Project Magi, an initiative to bring AI-powered search supposedly next month. To emphasize the importance of getting this to production, Google was ready to give up three billion US Dollars of revenue to Samsung for keeping Google Search as a default search engine for 12 years without a doubt. However, with the emergence of better solutions like Microsoft Bing, Samsung is considering replacing it with something else. The deal is still open, terms are still negotiated, and for now there are no official mentions of Bing. As a reminder, Google has a similar agreement with Apple, worth 20 billion US Dollars, and Google Search was valued at 162 billion US Dollars last year.

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AusWolf · Apr 18, 2023

Google pays the South Korean giant a slum of three billion US dollars per year

* sum, not slum

Will it be possible to still use Google? I'm not a big fan of Bing, or any of the modern, politically corrected AI fanciness.

bug · Apr 18, 2023

Samsung would be stupid to not at least try to get more money from Google. But I doubt going from Google to Bing would make that much of a difference. I can only see Samsung switching, if they had their in-house solution (like they do for pretty much any app that comes with Android).

bonehead123 · Apr 18, 2023

bug said:
I can only see Samsung switching, if they had their in-house solution

They probably do have one, but even if they don't, just the threat/idea of them wanting/being able to move away from da googly should be enough to rattle the purse strings a little....

AleksandarK said:
Google pays the South Korean giant a sum of three billion US dollars per year

$3B....pffff.... they probably spend at least that much every month just for electricity to keep their servers running, that's just pocket change for them

Vayra86 · Apr 18, 2023

Apparently its a state of perpetual panic @ Google since ChatGPT is out in the wild.

As it is on another subject... Popcorn time! I certainly don't mind Microsoft providing strong competition going forward.

bug · Apr 18, 2023

Vayra86 said:
Apparently its a state of perpetual panic @ Google since ChatGPT is out in the wild.

As it is on another subject... Popcorn time! I certainly don't mind Microsoft providing strong competition going forward.

I don't think it's panic, it's not like Google started on AI when they saw ChatGPT. It's just that they were going in a different direction and all of a sudden they have to show the world they can also do what ChatGPT does.

Just like search, AI needs you to be there at the start. If you're not there, there are no people interrogating your engine, so you can't train it. Bing came a decade after Google Search and no matter how much money Microsoft poured into it, it was never able to catch up.

Shihab · Apr 18, 2023

AleksandarK said:
Currently, Google and Samsung have a contract where Google pays the South Korean giant a sum of three billion US dollars per year to keep its search engine as a default option on Samsung's devices.

AleksandarK said:
Google enjoyed three billion US Dollars of revenue from Samsung for keeping Google Search as a default search engine for 12 years without a doubt.

Wait! Who's giving who the 3bs?

bug · Apr 18, 2023

Shihab said:
Wait! Who's giving who the 3bs?

I was hoping you wouldn't catch on to that. But now I have to confess: they're both giving me $3bn each so I don't object

Vayra86 · Apr 18, 2023

bug said:
I don't think it's panic, it's not like Google started on AI when they saw ChatGPT. It's just that they were going in a different direction and all of a sudden they have to show the world they can also do what ChatGPT does.

Just like search, AI needs you to be there at the start. If you're not there, there are no people interrogating your engine, so you can't train it. Bing came a decade after Google Search and no matter how much money Microsoft poured into it, it was never able to catch up.

How ChatGPT Suddenly Became Google’s Code Red, Prompting Return Of Page And Brin

The new kid on the A.I. block, ChatGPT, has shaken up Google.

www.forbes.com

The implication is that AI represents 'better search'. Search is the main pillar under everything Alphabet owns... and now they are not supposedly 'leading in search anymore'. People used to say 'Google it'. This is big. Another thing Google is built upon is Big Data. AI again shows the world that MS might have the 'biggest data'.

Just the idea, the seed planted into minds is a major threat to Google's entire existence.

bug · Apr 18, 2023

Vayra86 said:
How ChatGPT Suddenly Became Google’s Code Red, Prompting Return Of Page And Brin

The new kid on the A.I. block, ChatGPT, has shaken up Google.

www.forbes.com

The implication is that AI represents 'better search'. Search is the main pillar under everything Alphabet owns... and now they are not supposedly 'leading in search anymore'. People used to say 'Google it'. This is big. Another thing Google is built upon is Big Data. AI again shows the world that MS might have the 'biggest data'.

Just the idea, the seed planted into minds is a major threat to Google's entire existence.

You're not hearing me. It's only a problem if they fall behind. They have AI, they just don't have ChatGPT-like interface. And right now ChatGPT is just that: an interface. Its answers are pretty inaccurate, that thing is mostly about modelling natural language atm.
If Google comes up with their own interface within a year, they're fine. Fall back a couple of years or more, they will probably be looking at what you posted above.

ThrashZone · Apr 18, 2023

bug said:
You're not hearing me. It's only a problem if they fall behind. They have AI, they just don't have ChatGPT-like interface. And right now ChatGPT is just that: an interface. Its answers are pretty inaccurate, that thing is mostly about modelling natural language atm.
If Google comes up with their own interface within a year, they're fine. Fall back a couple of years or more, they will probably be looking at what you posted above.

Hi,
You mean AI ~~answers~~ "responses" right ?
Calling fact checkers "answers" was pretty funny when others did and AI will just be an extensions of that so equally funny by another name

I can't wait for the AI notes explaining why someone is wrong on search engines/ ..... lol mostly false = true really or mostly true = false really let the games continue :laugh:

Vayra86 · Apr 18, 2023

bug said:
You're not hearing me. It's only a problem if they fall behind. They have AI, they just don't have ChatGPT-like interface. And right now ChatGPT is just that: an interface. Its answers are pretty inaccurate, that thing is mostly about modelling natural language atm.
If Google comes up with their own interface within a year, they're fine. Fall back a couple of years or more, they will probably be looking at what you posted above.

They might be fine, it all depends on how well their AI interface actually works, and what happened with GPT in the meantime. Every day they haven't got that parity though is a day of mindshare in favor of Bing.

the54thvoid · Apr 18, 2023

I probably use google most for web sites for actual info. It's rare I need it for problem solving. But I asked ChatGPT about tech news websites. Here's what it said.

I chuckled. Have no fear Google, it has you on redirect.

trsttte · Apr 19, 2023

the54thvoid said:
I probably use google most for web sites for actual info. It's rare I need it for problem solving. But I asked ChatGPT about tech news websites. Here's what it said.

View attachment 292091

I chuckled. Have no fear Google, it has you on redirect.

It was well trained, just like google, first results are all just basically ads

Minus Infinity · Apr 19, 2023

While I have no problem with companies reducing their dependency on Google, Samsung has a pathetic programming reputation and I shudder to think what AI crap they have in store. Why don't they just license ChatGPT rather than try and do a poor imitation?

As an aside is Apple working on AI search? Can't believe for one minute they won't dump Google the moment they can offer an alternative.

matar · Apr 19, 2023

i have been using bing for 10 years and never went back to google.

AleksandarK · Apr 19, 2023

Shihab said:
Wait! Who's giving who the 3bs?

The article was edited, and thanks for pointing it out!

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