Der8auer Reveals New Ryzen 7000 Direct Die Water Block

[GFreeman]

Overclocking expert Roman "der8auer" Hartung has unveiled the new Ryzen 7000 direct die water block, the AM5 Mycro Direct Die cooler. The new direct die water block promises significantly lower temperatures compared to all-in-one (AiO) liquid coolers.

Of course, users will have to remove the Ryzen 7000 series IHS in order for the block to be in direct contact with the processor, or more precisely, chiplets on the AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs. It works with Der8auer's high-performance heatspreader. As tested on the AMD Ryzen 9 7900X CPU, the new Mycro Direct Die cooler can lower the temperature down to 65°C, which is significantly lower than standard 280 mm AiO coolers. The Mycro Direct Die cooler shows its true cooling potential on overclocked CPUs, offering up to 28°C lower temperatures.



Der8auer's Mycro Direct Die cooler should be available soon, and come in RGB and non-RGB versions, priced at around €140 and €100, respectively.

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[Ferrum Master]

Looks very nice and really very well priced, considering this is Made in Germany.

 

[Dave65]

Der8auer is a forward thinker and tinkerer, we need more like him.

 

[BloodMage]

Der8auer is a forward thinking and tinkerer, we need more like him.

+1000000

 

[ZoneDymo]

I especially like the Kryosheet, seems like a clean solution to ship with products

 

[taka]

Now how we convince AMD to release a AM5 CPU series without IHS.

Remember when CPU's were purchased like this? They still come with warranty.

 

[Kohl Baas]

Now how we convince AMD to release a AM5 CPU series without IHS.

Remember when CPU's were purchased like this? They still come with warranty.

Which voided as soon as your hand slippend and the DIE's corner chipped.

 

[Daven]

Now how we convince AMD to release a AM5 CPU series without IHS.

Remember when CPU's were purchased like this? They still come with warranty.

Or maybe an integrated water cooling block with standard connectors should come by default on high power products and replace the IHS.

 

[The_Enigma]

Or maybe an integrated water cooling block with standard connectors should come by default on high power products and replace the IHS.

That would be really cool to see actually, a "watercool edition" direct from AMD as a product sku

 

[N3utro]

Ok performance is nice and the technique is cool ngl but in which practical real life situation would this actually be useful?

For modern AAA games you are gpu limited not cpu limited, and for heavy cpu tasks like data crunching you get way more performance using multi cpu setups.

For breaking overclocking records ln2 is better anyway, and i wouldn't use a dod with LM rig as a safe 24/7 base.

Even regular gpu watercooling doesn't allow you to get significant performance increase over aircooling, you need sub ambiant cooling. This would only be useful in a SLI 4090 setup, so perhaps 0,001% of pc users.

Just a boy with pricey toys. Aircooling without AIO is better suited for 99% of pc users.

 

[Jism]

Der8auer is a forward thinker and tinkerer, we need more like him.

Mweh. Half of the content he makes is like a storm in a glass of water.

Some projects are OK, and esp the self engineered things are also OK.

But the whole concept of OC'ing is pretty much dead at this point. Thus a waterblock like that won't yield you hundreds of Mhz's but just a few percent.

CPU vendors have become quite clever in getting the most out of silicon. Because of that the headroom in products gets slimmer within the year really.

So you buy a CPU, and all you remain with is undervolting or offsets, some memory OC'ing and thats about it.

In the older days a good strong OC could yield you 45% performance increase. Today it's a few percent.

 

[The_Enigma]

In the older days a good strong OC could yield you 45% performance increase. Today it's a few percent.

45%? Psh. I remember back in the days when x86_64 first released and getting my Opteron 165. It was a dud of a CPU cause I was "only" able to over clock it from 1.8ghz up to 3ghz on air cooling. My second one was golden sample though, hitting 3.35ghz on air.
Those were the days..

 

[N3utro]

45%? Psh. I remember back in the days when x86_64 first released and getting my Opteron 165. It was a dud of a CPU cause I was "only" able to over clock it from 1.8ghz up to 3ghz on air cooling. My second one was golden sample though, hitting 3.35ghz on air.
Those were the days..

Celeron 300a from 1998 was 300 mhz and you could oc it to 600 mhz on air, a legendary CPU

 

[Jism]

45% on avg on top of the stock clocks. Extra or free performance that was. Yeah ive bin there too, a Sempron S754 1.8Ghz to almost 4GHz. Or a FX8320 at 4.8Ghz. Or a Slot A Athlon 500Mhz model to 750+ Mhz etc.


300A where good for 450Mhz on avg. Not 600. Now you get like procentual increase; usually at the cost of silicon life.

 

[mouacyk]

Mweh. Half of the content he makes is like a storm in a glass of water.

Some projects are OK, and esp the self engineered things are also OK.

But the whole concept of OC'ing is pretty much dead at this point. Thus a waterblock like that won't yield you hundreds of Mhz's but just a few percent.

CPU vendors have become quite clever in getting the most out of silicon. Because of that the headroom in products gets slimmer within the year really.

So you buy a CPU, and all you remain with is undervolting or offsets, some memory OC'ing and thats about it.

In the older days a good strong OC could yield you 45% performance increase. Today it's a few percent.

He understands the concept perfectly well. Auto-OC is the norm now, so taming temperatures to maximize that is the new game. True enthusiasts will still always tweak for that extra 2% on top.

 

[zo0lykas]

Celeron 300a from 1998 was 300 mhz and you could oc it to 600 mhz on air, a legendary CPU

Back in days people travel on the horses and was okey, today we need car 200-300 horse power.. to travel same distance..

 

[Jism]

He understands the concept perfectly well. Auto-OC is the norm now, so taming temperatures to maximize that is the new game. True enthusiasts will still always tweak for that extra 2% on top.

There's no such thing as a auto-oc. The CPU has bin programmed to get the best out of every different workload. Where one might require boatloads of current, the other can solve the riddle with far less, thus having more headroom for higher clocks.

I'd still prefer a all core OC day and night rather then that sketchy per CCD OC'ing where you have values of one CCD being 4.2Ghz and the other one 4.3Ghz.

Great for in cinebench but who does that?

 

[LabRat 891]

I gotta wonder why IHSs are still strictly copper and nickel?
It's not like we're several years into: phones, laptops, GPUs, etc. w/ allotropic carbon thermal spreaders/TIM, or anything like that... /s

 

[Lei]

allotropic carbon thermal spreaders

Wow, that's 1600wmk. 4 times better than copper.

 

[EatingDirt]

Now how we convince AMD to release a AM5 CPU series without IHS.

Remember when CPU's were purchased like this? They still come with warranty.

The warranty didn't include you fucking up mounting the CPU and breaking it. Gone are the days of sweating profusely as you tighten down the CPU cooler, hoping you don't slip and crack the die on your $300 CPU. These are not days people like me, who did build computers back then miss.

Or maybe an integrated water cooling block with standard connectors should come by default on high power products and replace the IHS.

This would be impossible to do on an LGA product unless they completely reworked the mounting system, or required you to remove the default mounting system. Both of which would be impractical, as the amount of people that actually do custom water cooling loops is... exceedingly low.

The small niche market is exactly what this direct die water block is for.

 

[Daven]

The small niche market is exactly what this direct die water block is for.

Did you know CPUs use to come without an IHS? Did you know that CPU sockets use to be slots and giant HSF were default mounted to the side? Did you know old sockets had no lever mechanism? You pushed the CPU into the holes and pulled out with a rake tool. Did you know the first socketable CPUs didn’t require a fan at all and the heatsink slide onto a ceramic top using integrated ‘rails’. I built desktops using all of the above going back to the 486SX days.

Things change. Its called “progress”. Water cooling is almost standard on 200W peak CPUs. And by no means will the CPU socket mechanisms be the same in ten years as they are today. You might be young. It would be wise to get use to change.

 

[Readlight]

Silicon chip in flowing water?
My new computer is fish container with chips.

 

[hsew]

If only AMD ditched AM4 cooler compatibility, we could have avoided the need for all of this…

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Did you know CPUs use to come without an IHS? Did you know that CPU sockets use to be slots and giant HSF were default mounted to the side? Did you know old sockets had no lever mechanism? You pushed the CPU into the holes and pulled out with a rake tool. Did you know the first socketable CPUs didn’t require a fan at all and the heatsink slide onto a ceramic top using integrated ‘rails’. I built desktops using all of the above going back to the 486SX days.

Things change. Its called “progress”. Water cooling is almost standard on 200W peak CPUs. And by no means will the CPU socket mechanisms be the same in ten years as they are today. You might be young. It would be wise to get use to change.

I....actually didn't know this, hehe. Even though I'm in my late 30's, I haven't been a PC enthusiast for very long - started around 2012 or 2013, I think. Before that, I just used PC's without caring about their parts or how everything worked. So, thank you for unknowingly educating me about PC parts from days of yore

 

[LabRat 891]

Wow, that's 1600wmk. 4 times better than copper.

-just took the time to watch the vid. That Z-oriented graphene pad has my utmost attention!
IIRC, those allotropic carbon pads perform amazing, when you consider how poorly it's contacting vs. thermal paste(good) or LM-TIM(best).
Which, is why Liquid Metal consistently performed best (in the video), it makes the absolute best contact.

Personally, I'd like to see an IHS made from laminations of that Z-graphene and various thin foils (to add thermal capacity).