Why are there no Sandybridge reviews using top end C2Q CPUs?

EastCoasthandle · Apr 12, 2011

I've looked at a few reviews and found no inclusion of Q9650 and maybe one or 2 using a Q9550. Perhaps I missed it? Does anyone have a 2500 series or 2600 series SB review that compares th Q9650, etc CPUs?

Edit:
Below you will find a few benchmark results showing the differences between the Q9650 at 3.70GHz vs i7 2600k at stock. I'm using a 5870 at 900/1200. I didn't bother overclocking the 2600k. The same drivers were used.

Q9650 OC'd

i7 2600k Stock

Q9650 OC'd

i7 2600k Stock

Q9650 OC'd

i7 2600k Stock

Q9650 OC'd

i7 2600k Stock

Q9650 OC'd

i7 2600k Stock

Q9650 OC'd

2600k Stock

2600k HT Off

Q9650 OC'd

2600K Stock

2600k Stock HT Off

Q9650 OC'd

2600K Stock

q9650 OC'd

2600K stock
(I didn't complete all of the tests in SuperPI Mod).

KieX · Apr 12, 2011

Q6600 and Phenom II X4 close enough?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/16

EarthDog · Apr 12, 2011

Are you just trying to put a number on how much better it is clock for clock or something? Thats like 2 FULL generations ago...

Molignar · Apr 12, 2011

Is this closer to what your looking for? http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/963986-pics-bc2-very-large-gains-i5.html This guy did his own comparison with his Q9650 setup and his new i5 2500k setup.

jimmyz · Apr 12, 2011

I own a QX9650 as well as a few Nehalems, a Gulftown and a 2600k. If you are looking for whether it is faster clock per clock, yes, by far!! also better IPC than even the Gulftowns, and blows Nehalems out of the water as well. The only place Sandy Bridge is lacking is once it hits it's wall that's it. Even LN2 didn't get mine a bit farther than the 5.35 Ghz it can do on air.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 13, 2011

The Q6600 won't work as even the Q8000 series beat it but thanks. There has been a lot of talk but it's odd there is no reviews showing the comparison from it. I was looking for either a Q9650 or a Q9550 but the later is at a lower clock rate.

I honestly have no idea what the performance differences between the 2 are. As noted, I want to see how well clock for clock the 2500/2600 series are compared to the Q9650. For example at 3.40GHz or 4.0GHz. But there is no such information as of yet. As for the linked user thread that's still on going with the OP making a new set of video(s). But it's a start, thanks.

cadaveca · Apr 13, 2011

Find me the cpu, I'll gladly do it for ya. Unfortunately, I only have Q6600 left in 775.

Delta6326 · Apr 13, 2011

Q6600 FTW!! i still love mine.

I do agree I wish in reviews they had some older cpus to compare on

dank1983man420 · Apr 13, 2011

If you need me to do anything , I have a 2500k and a q9650 I can do some tests on.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 13, 2011

dank1983man420 said:
If you need me to do anything , I have a 2500k and a q9650 I can do some tests on.

Please do if you don't mind. Below are some suggestions:
Applications:
Winrar has it's own built in benchmark.
3DMark11
SuperPI Mod

Games:
AVP benchmark
Crysis Benchmark tool (for Crysis) and/or FBWH Too (for Crysis Warhead)
FFXIV Benchmark
Lost Planet 2 Benchmark

LifeOnMars · Apr 13, 2011

This should be interesting. I know personally how much of a step up these chips are having had a 3.8GHz Q6600 GO and a 4GHz 1090T previously.

slyfox2151 · Apr 13, 2011

just to point out, winrar is very ram dependant last time i checked, latency and bandwidth will have a very large impack on the score.

intel burn test bandwidth should be a fair comparison... or run True Crypt benchmark. cinebench.

dank1983man420 · Apr 13, 2011

EastCoasthandle said:
Please do if you don't mind. Below are some suggestions:
Applications:
Winrar has it's own built in benchmark.
3DMark11
SuperPI Mod

Games:
AVP benchmark
Crysis Benchmark tool (for Crysis) and/or FBWH Too (for Crysis Warhead)
FFXIV Benchmark
Lost Planet 2 Benchmark

LifeOnMars said:
This should be interesting. I know personally how much of a step up these chips are having had a 3.8GHz Q6600 GO and a 4GHz 1090T previously.

slyfox2151 said:
just to point out, winrar is very ram dependant last time i checked, latency and bandwidth will have a very large impack on the score.

intel burn test bandwidth should be a fair comparison... or run True Crypt benchmark. cinebench.

Sounds good, I would have to do these tomorrow morning on my day off though when the time to do this is there though. I just downloaded the necessary programs I didn't have already, so that is taken care of. Would you like me to run both of the chips at their stocks, both at the same clocks OC'd, or both stock clocks and matched OC's?

TRIPTEX_CAN · Apr 13, 2011

I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on a SB upgrade so there is a good chance I will have something to add to this thread down the road.

I think matching the clocks is the best way to do it. I can say for sure this will be a complete shitkicking in all synthetics where the q9650 will show it's age.

You should also add BC2 to this comparison even though it's proven that C2Qs just can't keep up with i5/i7 let alone SB i5/i7.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 13, 2011

dank1983man420 said:
Sounds good, I would have to do these tomorrow morning on my day off though when the time to do this is there though. I just downloaded the necessary programs I didn't have already, so that is taken care of. Would you like me to run both of the chips at their stocks, both at the same clocks OC'd, or both stock clocks and matched OC's?

Thanks, I would prefer both at the same OC settings.

trickson · Apr 13, 2011

TRIPTEX_CAN said:
the q9650 will show it's age.

It may be aged , But it still is a great CPU . I love mine and have seen no real reason to upgrade it as of yet . Just a supper solid and fast CPU that can take any thing I through at it and then some .

francis511 · Apr 13, 2011

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/chart...compare,2430.html?prod[4785]=on&prod[4413]=on

dank1983man420 · Apr 13, 2011

francis511 said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/chart...compare,2430.html?prod[4785]=on&prod[4413]=on

Damn, that review would have been perfect if they used an i2500k instead of the 2600k. It would have been comparing both 4 core and 4 thread processors instead of the 2600k having the 8 thread advantage.

silkstone · Apr 13, 2011

slyfox2151 said:
just to point out, winrar is very ram dependant last time i checked, latency and bandwidth will have a very large impack on the score.

intel burn test bandwidth should be a fair comparison... or run True Crypt benchmark. cinebench.

It thought it would be more FSB Dependant? which i guess would also be tied to the ram, but it uses the cache more than anything else, right?

newtekie1 · Apr 13, 2011

2600K vs. Q9650

2500K vs. Q9650

There you go. SandyBridge definitely wins, but unless you are doing video/audio/photo/3D editting, I see no reason to upgrade if you already have a high end 775 quad.

AltecV1 · Apr 13, 2011

DAMN that is a lot faster then i thought it would be ! but now im sad because i just realised how old my cpu is :cry:

LifeOnMars · Apr 13, 2011

newtekie1 said:
2600K vs. Q9650

2500K vs. Q9650

There you go. SandyBridge definitely wins, but unless you are doing video/audio/photo/3D editting, I see no reason to upgrade if you already have a high end 775 quad.

Crossfire/Sli scaling is alot better for the very top end, plus that only shows a handful of games. I've seen improvements in alot more and has been an altogether smoother gaming experience.

TRIPTEX_CAN · Apr 13, 2011

trickson said:
It may be aged , But it still is a great CPU . I love mine and have seen no real reason to upgrade it as of yet . Just a supper solid and fast CPU that can take any thing I through at it and then some .

I agree the Q9xx0 quads are/were great chips for their time but imo that time has passed when running current highend multiple GPU configs and intensive encoding tasks.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 13, 2011

dank1983man420,
One more thing, please make sure that all IQ settings are on max. As for resolution make it the highest possible.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 18, 2011

OP updated with some results.

System Name	MY PC
Processor	E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard	Maximus Formula
Cooling	D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory	XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s)	HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage	2
Display(s)	24"
Case	P180
Audio Device(s)	X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply	Silencer 750
Software	XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores	This varies from one driver to another.

System Name	Slick
Processor	Intel i5 2467M
Motherboard	Samsung Series 5 Ultrabook
Memory	8GB Corsair Value
Storage	Crucial M4 7mm 256GB
Display(s)	13"
Software	Windows 8 Pro x64

System Name	Main Rig
Processor	Intel i5 2500k @ 4.0Ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte P67-UD4 B3 F2 BIOS
Cooling	8 x 120mm Scythe S-Flex 1900rpm (HAF932 Case), 1 x 120mm Scythe S-Flex 1900rpm (on Noctua NH-U12P)
Memory	8Gb GSkill RipJaw XL DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5v
Video Card(s)	2 x MSI 460GTX Cyclone OC
Storage	1 x OCZ Vertex2 Extended 60Gb, 1 x WD 80Gb Blue, 2 x WD 2.0Tb Black
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Case	CoolerMaster HAF 932
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI
Power Supply	Thermaltake ToughPower 1200w Modular
Software	Windows 7 Professional x64
Benchmark Scores	CPU-Z Validation - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1684402

System Name	Black ice
Processor	QX 9650 @ 5ghz @ 1.55v
Motherboard	DFI X-38 T2R
Cooling	jinu ss in v-2000b+2
Memory	crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066 asynch 4-4-4-5
Video Card(s)	2 x Radeon 4850 voltmodded watercooled
Storage	4x seagate 250gb in RAID 0
Display(s)	24" SOYO LCD 1920x1200
Case	vapoli v2000b+2 (lian-li)
Audio Device(s)	onboard karjan audio
Power Supply	pc power & cooling silencer 750 Quad
Software	windows mce 2005 (xp pro basically) dual boot w/ Vista Home premium.

System Name	MY PC
Processor	E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard	Maximus Formula
Cooling	D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory	XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card(s)	HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage	2
Display(s)	24"
Case	P180
Audio Device(s)	X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply	Silencer 750
Software	XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores	This varies from one driver to another.

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