GTX 680 Generally Faster Than HD 7970: New Benchmarks

MxPhenom 216 · Mar 17, 2012

NHKS said:
Some info on nV's GPU Boost..

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/28ba9ad6-5b06-4d4a-a060-8d8188651334.jpg
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/185d26e8-60eb-4ad2-b0af-61e2b4b2b343.jpg
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/f7df03d3-e031-49af-96f9-374e2513ca45.jpg

if these are known already, pls let me know..

thats pretty cool actually.

sanadanosa · Mar 17, 2012

Capitan Harlock said:
i talk about the topic, if the default clock is not 1000ghz why make a benchmark without overclock the other side? make a benchmark with the 7970 oc at 1ghz

Nah, you asking about benchmarking 680 and 7970 at same mhz core and memory, and you called 1006mhz 680 is overclocked. According to previews news, 1006mhz is the GTX 680 base clock, and turbo clock is 1058mhz. So, if you still asking about benchmark with same core clock & memory, It's like comparing 880mhz HD6970 with 880mhz GTX 570, is that fair enough for you?

Steevo · Mar 17, 2012

So more demand means less base clock.

And I read no where that it uses less power than the 7970.

MxPhenom 216 · Mar 17, 2012

Steevo said:
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/185d26e8-60eb-4ad2-b0af-61e2b4b2b343.jpg

So more demand means less base clock.

And I read no where that it uses less power than the 7970.

the TDP is less then the HD7970. 195w TDP vs 210w TDP. Im pretty sure you can assume it'll use a bit less power then the 7970

sanadanosa · Mar 17, 2012

nvidiaintelftw said:
the TDP is less then the HD7970. 195w TDP vs 210w TDP. Im pretty sure you can assume it'll use a bit less power then the 7970

smaller die size too :laugh:

MxPhenom 216 · Mar 17, 2012

sanadanosa said:
smaller die size too

supposively same performance if not better too :laugh:

NHKS · Mar 17, 2012

Steevo said:
And I read no where that it uses less power than the 7970.

Perhaps this might help..

More pics.. not of NV's slides but GK104/GTX680

Chip(GK104), Measure1, Measure2, Heatsink1, Heatsink2, Hynix-RAM?, Blower fan, on-board chip?, stacked power conn

sanadanosa · Mar 17, 2012

NHKS said:
Perhaps this might help..
http://www.hkepc.com/database/images/2012/03/source/16235232521973668591.png

More pics.. not of NV's slides but GK104/GTX680

Chip(GK104), Measure1, Measure2, Heatsink1, Heatsink2, Hynix-RAM?, Blower fan, on-board chip?, stacked power conn

Nice info

. Hey, looks like both Nvidia and AMD moving away from Samsung to Hynix

NHKS · Mar 17, 2012

sanadanosa said:
Nice info. Hey, looks like both Nvidia and AMD moving away from Samsung to Hynix

yes, seems that way..7970 uses hynix too..
apparently they moved way back in 2008 with their 40nm performance cards..

nvidia also have 1 year long collaboration with hynix in co-developing car infotainment systems.

Steevo · Mar 17, 2012

We can only hope those graphs are good, and are not going to cause issues with microstutter.

sanadanosa · Mar 17, 2012

Steevo said:
We can only hope those graphs are good, and are not going to cause issues with microstutter.

depending on the drivers of course

specks · Mar 17, 2012

btarunr said:
The test-bed consisted of an extreme-cooled Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition processor (running at stock frequency)

Why was extreme cooling necessary when its on stock speed?

NHKS · Mar 17, 2012

i am not going to comment on this.. :shadedshu
LINK

sanadanosa · Mar 17, 2012

specks said:
Why was extreme cooling necessary when its on stock speed?

It's 5GHz

farquaid · Mar 17, 2012

nvidiaintelftw said:
what? the 670 isn't even out, how is the 680 rebranded 670? And how will they rebrand it a 690 when the 690 is coming in may apparently which is 2 GK104s on one PCB.

I think maybe what was meant was that since the x80 is for the high end and x70 is performance, the gk104 wouldve been named 670. But since there is no high end the 670(performance) is upgraded in the name to 680(high end).

sanadanosa · Mar 17, 2012

NHKS said:
i am not going to comment on this.. :shadedshu
LINK

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It's pre-order or something? If it's true, damn, that price tag is higher than 7970

NHKS · Mar 17, 2012

sanadanosa said:
It's pre-order or something? If it's true, damn, that price tag is higher than 7970

yep.. pre-order(2-5 weeks time for delivery)

buggalugs · Mar 17, 2012

I dont think this card is as impressive as some people think. AMD left heaps of overclocking headroom, Nvidia have clocked their card higher and have turbo overclocking built in so how much overclocking is left on the card?

An overclocked 7970 can do 11,000 3D mark 11, can the nvidia card do that? Or has the card already been milked? And what happened to 40% better BF3 performance?

Anyway, for me, I can only hope the 680 is faster so I can buy a 7970 for cheaper.

Lionheart · Mar 17, 2012

Lol the GTX 580 has 0.4gb more memory bandwidge....derp ^_^

ichime · Mar 17, 2012

nvidiaintelftw said:
Expected more from a mid-ranged card?

Kinda tired of people saying how this is nVidia's mid-range card when...it's not. If it was, they would have named it as such. Hell, they could have still named it a GTX 660 with that price and do even more damage to AMD in terms of halting sales since it would give enthusiast gamers the illusion that a "high end" GK100/110/whatever is on the way...

If this card is indeed the GTX 680, we should just accept it and look towards better driver support and features that actually improve the gaming experience (i.e. TXAA).

That, or wait for their next generation of chips...

radrok · Mar 17, 2012

sanadanosa said:
It's pre-order or something? If it's true, damn, that price tag is higher than 7970

Seems fine to me, the 7970 ranges from 440 to 510 € here in Europe and if it performs better than the 7970 then we could see a drop in price from AMD/ATi

H82LUZ73 · Mar 17, 2012

Kaynar said:
7700 3dmark11 points is kind of low for an HD7970 since mine get 8100 stock, 8400 oc and 9100 at max OC (with an i7 930)

That still puts the stock GTX680 above the HD7970 oc'ed. The defeat of AMD clearly depends on the overclocking ability of the GTX680 and the future drivers AMD can release to catch-up, if thats possible.

I agree ,At least they are neck and neck,But when a benchmark with cuda favor it pulls ahead.Lets wait and see if AMD comes out with an update in the q2.

MxPhenom 216 · Mar 17, 2012

farquaid said:
I think maybe what was meant was that since the x80 is for the high end and x70 is performance, the gk104 wouldve been named 670. But since there is no high end the 670(performance) is upgraded in the name to 680(high end).

well it would have been called the 660 with the logic that the gk104 is suppose to replace the 560ti(gf114)

MxPhenom 216 · Mar 17, 2012

buggalugs said:
I dont think this card is as impressive as some people think. AMD left heaps of overclocking headroom, Nvidia have clocked their card higher and have turbo overclocking built in so how much overclocking is left on the card?

An overclocked 7970 can do 11,000 3D mark 11, can the nvidia card do that? Or has the card already been milked? And what happened to 40% better BF3 performance?

Anyway, for me, I can only hope the 680 is faster so I can buy a 7970 for cheaper.

I think some people are forgetting this is meant to be a mid range card.

Vulpesveritas · Mar 17, 2012

nvidiaintelftw said:
I think some people are forgetting this is meant to be a mid range card.

I think some people are forgetting that it turned out not to be seeing as it's being released as the GTX 680. If GK100 were out there we'd probably be seeing that instead. I wouldn't think Nvidia would hold back it's strongest cards just to make AMD not look as bad. They would have taken it as a chance to pull ahead this year, having GK 104 as their mid-range.

But GK104 is the top end for this generation, unless they release a 685 or 680ti or whatnot. Which means either Nvidia figured they would make more profits this way (which doesn't make sense as they'd be able to get larger shipments running this card lower and owning the market for performance/ price, meaning anyone but the damnest AMD fanboys would buy their cards. = larger profit and more marketshare.) or B. there was an issue with getting GK100 out, whatever it may be.

In any case, I'll wait to see some more official benchmarks before reaching a conclusion on this one.

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