NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3 GB

W1zzard · May 23, 2013

Today, NVIDIA released their new GeForce GTX 780, which is based on the GK110 GPU - just like the GTX Titan. The new card not only inherits the fantastic looks of the Titan, but is also very close to it in overall performance. NVIDIA's pricing is certainly not cheap at $649.

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Fluffmeister · May 23, 2013

Impressive card and very close to Titan.

Plenty of cards in stock too here in the UK @ I think a reasonable price of £549 Inc VAT.

Prima.Vera · May 23, 2013

Where are the times when the next generation GPU would have been 90% more faster than previews one?? (3870->4870->5870; etc)

FireKillerGR · May 23, 2013

Great card for a great review

as always good job Wizzard

hardcore_gamer · May 23, 2013

Prima.Vera said:
Where are the times when the next generation GPU would have been 90% more faster than previews one?? (3870->4870->5870; etc)

..also at the same price.

:banghead:

For that price I'd rather buy a PS4 and some games.

rodneyhchef · May 23, 2013

Isn't it 12 of 15?

12x192=2304
13x192=2496
2304/13=177.23

Frick · May 23, 2013

Prima.Vera said:
Where are the times when the next generation GPU would have been 90% more faster than previews one?? (3870->4870->5870; etc)

That has not been the case mroe often than not. I always assumed those generations was an expection.

Anyway I think this is what the Titan would have been, at this price. Then they should have made an Ultra version or something from this and called THAT titan. Waiting for the lower end cards.

radrok · May 23, 2013

Prima.Vera said:
Where are the times when the next generation GPU would have been 90% more faster than previews one?? (3870->4870->5870; etc)

This is not a new lithography bump, this is a refresh.

Has happened before and the gain are very good for a "refresh".

W1zzard · May 23, 2013

rodneyhchef said:
Isn't it 12 of 15?

12x192=2304
13x192=2496
2304/13=177.23

You are absolutely correct. Fixed

Frick · May 23, 2013

hardcore_gamer said:
..also at the same price.

For that price I'd rather buy a PS4 and some games.

Those 670 SLI's aren't fast enough for you?

Phobia9651 · May 23, 2013

Why haven't been more points deducted for the high price?
I know that it is a great card, and I know that diminishing returns kicks in at the high end segment.
But it seems that nvidia is pushing the price limit up every generation eventhough the performance gains between generations are getting smaller...

adulaamin · May 23, 2013

Thanks for another great review Wiz! These are gonna cost around 30-35k here, too expensive for me but if I had the money I'd buy one.

Frick · May 23, 2013

urza26 said:
Why haven't been more points deducted for the high price?
I know that it is a great card, and I know that diminishing returns kicks in at the high end segment.

Personally I never ever look at the scores, as they are always high. Instead or 0-100% it's more like 85-95%. The rest of wizzards reviews are very good indeed, but the scoring has always been odd imo.

BigMack70 · May 23, 2013

Nice review! Once the price is down where it belongs around ~$500 and BTC mining is no longer worth it on my GPUs, I may pick up a pair of these (or some custom one... I dunno yet).

I am ready to switch over to SLI after a somewhat mediocre experience with Crossfire.

newconroer · May 23, 2013

Fluffmeister said:
Impressive card and very close to Titan.

Plenty of cards in stock too here in the UK @ I think a reasonable price of £549 Inc VAT.

I don't agree - because 680s are still high in rotation and cost.
Looks like Nvidia's strategy was to cripple a Titan and then release it to phase out the 690 which is awkwardly perched.

680 is now finally going to be marketed as a mid-high gaming product.

Anyways, £549 is absurd when you can continue to buy two lesser cards and SLI for cheaper.
Fingers crossed that Ebay dealers start dropping their prices soon.

Fluffmeister · May 23, 2013

newconroer said:
I don't agree - because 680s are still high in rotation and cost.
Looks like Nvidia's strategy was to cripple a Titan and then release it to phase out the 690 which is awkwardly perched.

680 is now finally going to be marketed as a mid-high gaming product.

Anyways, £549 is absurd when you can continue to buy two lesser cards and SLI for cheaper.

That's because the 680 is a fine card that is perfectly competitive with AMD's high-end, not sure why nV should sell it for less just to appease a few people that think otherwise.

So yeah as I said elsewhere, the 7970 cost £550 at launch too, and you're right, even though that has tanked in price you can pick up a couple of Ti Boosts for less money which would outperform it.

Nice to have options isn't it.

qubit · May 23, 2013

It's got just about the same performance as my GTX 590, but with twice the memory. I'll stick with what I've got, especially as I game at 1080p.

15th Warlock · May 23, 2013

Good review W1zzard, great card, though a little pricy, but that unfortunately wasn't unexpected :toast:

The card has great potential, and putting under water will allow owners to further OC this puppy as GK110 loves low temps, only the TDP will be the limit.

As for the price, I'm really looking forward to AMD releasing the 8000 series at a more affordable price, ending this madness

that should also bring the price of Titan down :rockout:

But if 7990 taught us anything is that AMD is willing to charge a premium also for their cards, oh well, it's going to be a long wait anyways to find out

P.S.:

Many people bought the GTX Titan after the outcry on GTX Titan pricing. They are extremely happy with the card. Countless forum reports are testament to that. These same people will now be sad as many fought with their wives/GFs/moms to buy a GTX Titan, because the GTX 780 offers pretty much the same performance at a lower price.

Nice jab to Titan owners

no sadness here though, been thoroughly enjoying these cards for the last few months, and they OC to 1200MHz under water

the fact that more people will be able to enjoy similar performance at a lower price is a good thing for all gamers and enthusiasts, looking forward to people getting the 780 and pushing it to the limit! :rockout:

Casecutter · May 23, 2013

From the price/performance over what a 770 (rebrand of the 680) it much more than I expect and the most startling was they didn't skimp or cut any from the Titan's cooler at a $650 price. Newegg got quite a stock all at $650.

Though with Titan only say 10% better at 2560x, Titan is finished, gone, kaput... Nvidia will still have it out there, but face it... no longer such the allure. I’d be distraught if that 6 week ago the card I paid 55% more for what was billed as the "King of Kings" today is only a perhaps 10% ahead! Other than one or two titles it doesn’t provide any significant game-play differences! Even more of a indigence is that no one can tell even distinguish if your rig has a 1,000 card, or a card that cost $650! Didn't Titan offer some neat lighting effects, like GeForce logo and the spiny fan, are even those part of the GTX780?

Don’t get me wrong it’s good on its own merit for "Enthusiast" market, but there some fanbio’s who are feeling a little more than stretched, and won’t be able stand upright for some months to come.

the54thvoid · May 23, 2013

Luckily I could afford Titan without hurting my bank balance.

However i'm not above pride to say that this is exceptionally disingenuous of Nvidia.

Although the overclocked 780 beats a stock Titan, the same rules hold, an overclocked Titan also beats the overclocked 780.

This card will destroy Titan sales (as it should) and I think Nvidia wont care - they'll all go back to K20 compute cards now. But even with a healthy wallet this was deceptive of Nvidia. Very poor show to sell Titan at that price and then release this card with such close performance. :shadedshu

In terms of cards though, Titan is still 10% ish above the 780 so it is still the fastest single gpu out there. Guru 3D have their 780 overclock at 1150-1176 which is also where Titans tend to settle. The bios restrictions on power see to that. 780 buyers beware - the Boost 2.0 algorithm means your overclock will never exceed Titans either.

So am i annoyed at Nvidia? Of course, absolutely, I don't mind admitting that. Do i like my Titan any less? Of course not. My Bugatti still outruns your Ferrari. :laugh:

Will i go red team next? Probably.

15th Warlock · May 23, 2013

Casecutter said:
From the price/performance over what a 770 (rebrand of the 680) it much more than I expect and the most startling was they didn't skimp or cut any from the Titan's cooler at a $650 price. Newegg got quite a stock all at $650.

Though with Titan only say 10% better at 2560x, Titan is finished, gone, kaput... Nvidia will still have it out there, but face it... no longer such the allure. I’d be distraught if that 6 week ago the card I paid 55% more for what was billed as the "King of Kings" today is only a perhaps 10% ahead! Other than one or two titles it doesn’t provide any significant game-play differences! Even more of a indigence is that no one can tell even distinguish if your rig has a 1,000 card, or a card that cost $650! Didn't Titan offer some neat lighting effects, like GeForce logo and the spiny fan, are even those part of the GTX780?

Don’t get me wrong it’s good on its own merit for "Enthusiast" market, but there some fanbio’s who are feeling a little more than stretched, and won’t be able stand upright for some months to come.

Yes, gotta admit it, going forward there's no point in purchasing Titan, it had a great but short run :rockout:

The card is faster yes, and OCs more but the price difference don't make it worth it, its saving grace will probably be its compute performance, as the 780 is crippled by Nvidia before leaving the factory.

I hope Titan Ultra is released, and vanilla Titan becomes cheaper, and I wonder if 780 could be modded to work in SLI with current Titan cards?

the54thvoid said:
So am i annoyed at Nvidia? Of course, absolutely, I don't mind admitting that. Do i like my Titan any less? Of course not. My Bugatti still outruns your Ferrari.

LMAO! That's the spirit mate! :toast:

MxPhenom 216 · May 23, 2013

oh no. upgrade bug has struck! gtx780 shall be mine in a few weeks.

newconroer · May 23, 2013

Fluffmeister said:
That's because the 680 is a fine card that is perfectly competitive with AMD's high-end, not sure why nV should sell it for less just to appease a few people that think otherwise.

So yeah as I said elsewhere, the 7970 cost £550 at launch too, and you're right, even though that has tanked in price you can pick up a couple of Ti Boosts for less money which would outperform it.

Nice to have options isn't it.

Problem being that the 6 series cards have held their value very well, especially the 680s - and this is primarily due to the perception that they would be the top end single solution cards for a considerable amount of time, until a new generation product would trump it.

Instead, we ended up with a new card that introduces a new performance bracket altogether.
Thus the 6 series card's prices won't be appropriately affected.

The only saving grace is that 660/670 prices are not extortionate to begin with.

d1nky · May 23, 2013

^^^ I wonder what they will do with the next 'flagship' card and next line-up.

id be very annoyed if I sli'd titans. id probably be inclined to refund and get more 780s lol

but if you got it flaunt it, and titan owners just make sure your benches are BETTER!

Fluffmeister · May 23, 2013

newconroer said:
Problem being that the 6 series cards have held their value very well, especially the 680s - and this is primarily due to the perception that they would be the top end single solution cards for a considerable amount of time, until a new generation product would trump it.

Instead, we ended up with a new card that introduces a new performance bracket altogether.
Thus the 6 series card's prices won't be appropriately affected.

The only saving grace is that 660/670 prices are not extortionate to begin with.

I assume the launch of the 770 next week will force a price reduction, but that does of course remain to be seen.

For the record I certainly didn't think the 680 was/is worth the 20% price premium over the 670 when offering at most 10%, and in most cases barely 2-3% more. Which is precisely why I opted for a 670.

The flip side too is I'm very happy my 670 is holding it's value, I gotta admit I'm tempted to offload it now and put the cash towards a 780.

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