Sunday, December 11th 2022
First Alleged AMD Radeon RX 7900-series Benchmarks Leaked
With only a couple of days to go until the AMD RX 7900-series benchmarks go live, some alleged benchmarks from both the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT have leaked on Twitter. The two cards are being compared to a NVIDIA RTX 4080 card in no less than seven different game titles, all running at 4K resolution. The games are God of War, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Watchdogs Legion, Red Dead Redemption 2, Doom Eternal and Horizon Zero Dawn. The cards were tested on a system with a Core i9-12900K CPU which was paired with 32 GB of RAM of unknown type.
It's too early to draw any real conclusions from this test, but in general, the RX 7900 XTX comes out on top, ahead of the RTX 4080, so no surprises here. The RX 7900 XT is either tied with the RTX 4080 or a fair bit slower, with the exception being Red Dead Redemption 2, where the RTX 4080 is the slowest card, although it also appears to have some issues, since the one percent lows are hitting 2 FPS. Soon, the reviews will be out and everything will become more clear, but it appears that AMD's RX 7900 XTX will give NVIDIA's RTX 4080 a run for its money, if these benchmarks are anything to go by.
Update Dec 11th: The original tweet has been removed, for unknown reasons. It could be because the numbers were fake, or because they were in breach of AMD's NDA.
Source:
@Vitamin4Dz
It's too early to draw any real conclusions from this test, but in general, the RX 7900 XTX comes out on top, ahead of the RTX 4080, so no surprises here. The RX 7900 XT is either tied with the RTX 4080 or a fair bit slower, with the exception being Red Dead Redemption 2, where the RTX 4080 is the slowest card, although it also appears to have some issues, since the one percent lows are hitting 2 FPS. Soon, the reviews will be out and everything will become more clear, but it appears that AMD's RX 7900 XTX will give NVIDIA's RTX 4080 a run for its money, if these benchmarks are anything to go by.
Update Dec 11th: The original tweet has been removed, for unknown reasons. It could be because the numbers were fake, or because they were in breach of AMD's NDA.
146 Comments on First Alleged AMD Radeon RX 7900-series Benchmarks Leaked
It could be fixed with better drivers right ?
I think i'll go for 10° less on my CPU than 5 fps more in game anydays !
I'm not saying you're wrong, you could be spot on for all I know. I just haven't found a lot about this architecture's performance characteristics to do any kind of estimate.
The proof is something you can reproduce and not talk shit like most people who say "AMD drivers are bad" and their last AMD card was 10 years ago.
the paint skills aren't even very good, the framerate is all over the place, never in the same place, centered, not centered, more to the left, more to the right, more up, more down :laugh:
2/10 for effort
At one point cyberpunk wouldn't load at all on my 2060 and I have had the odd issue with my Vega 64.
As I said, sponsored or not, your experience on one game, much like mine isn't extrapolateable to the many thousands of games it's possible to play or occuring across the many millions of configurations.
And even if one game gives everyone issues.
It also isn't relative to an unreleased card.
And it's hyperbolic to state it's all bad, I see that as a retarded leap of logic personally and that's more of an insult to those afflicted by neurological issues since they're not that daft.
Hence you won't find me shitposting about driver's irrelevant to the Original post, or at all.
However as I said several times the numbers line up with the results from official benchmarks.
Here's an example from that 4090 video that others said is "obviously fake because two weeks early":
These corporation's have no shame ripping us off whenever the opportunity arises, why should anyone hold back and be sympathetic with any mistake they make after years of crypto and high prices, if they demand as much money from us then we should demand top notch products.
Why should the butt hurt machinations of one guy on his old AMD card affect the buying decisions of anyone else.
I'm not defending AMD I'm pointing out your argument is hyperbolic and largely irrelevant.
Before long a patch or driver will be out that fixes YOUR biggest pain point.
Making it irrelevant even to you.
So as a user and issue experiencer on BOTH as I said GPU platforms stick your bias insinuations where the sun doesn't shine, and stuff your leaps of logic in the same place.
I wish i could take back the minutes i wasted here. Farewell!
I'd call it a win there are now 3 companies instead of 2, and a win that 2 are pricing lower than the other one.
I'd say the real and big loss was a good mid-range card used to being $200 range is now close to the $400 range.
But most of the hate is overplayed.You see nothing truthful clearly.
It's your version of hyperbolic bullshit that makes the other person I quoted only hear horse shit off people like you.
Then they all buy Nvidia, now here we are eh beholden to fool's.
And I am still having driver or game issues on my 2060 like every light showing through every surface on the latest COD.
That games been out a while, does that make Nvidia's driver's bad, no.
It does make them imperfect, like everything in personal computers, Everything, so I say again Hype isn't required, or needed.
Nvidia has the same issues with their products as well.
Like I think people dont even know what it means to have "driver issues" they just know its "bad" so they dont want the product and are not intelligent or interested enough to actually do some research, a common phenomenon with a lot of things in life.
Oh this bread has gluten? gluten are bad right? guess I dont want this bread....
Oh this person favors socialism? socialism is bad right? guess I dont want to vote for this person...
etc etc
I have had an RX480 for way too long now and an HD6950 before and I can say that I never ran into any driver issues myself, sure some stuff could be better but thats more on the design of the software, like if my PC crashes my overclock resets, it makes sense as its a safe thing to do to make sure the pc restarts even though the crash was for entirely unrelated reasons but I wish I could force the overclock to stay somehow, my workaround is to just make a specific overclock profile for the few games I play so it activates that profile when I start the game up, no matter if some crash occurred.
Anywho, again, thats more the software then the actual driver, driver issues basically never happened for me in....what..10 years of AMD? probably more.
Meanwhile I started with a Nvidia PCX 5200, upgraded to an Nvida 7900 GTO then to an Nvidia 8800GTS (G92) and they were marvelous exciting fantastic upgrades and I wont dissuade you from buying Nvidia products due to software or driver issues (I would dissuade you because imo Nvidia is a scumbag anti consumer company and if nothing else, to do something about that 80/20 marketshare split and just giving AMD cards a chance without listening to the rhetoric that you are asking about this very moment) but I did have issues with both those cards in terms of stability, being able to even access the software for them etc.
It was overall more then fine, but If I had any issues it was with those 2 cards and never with AMD ever since.
But again, older products vs modern, both improved over time and both are fine.... on that front atleast.
But we should pay close attention to reviews, if there are stability or performance issues, whether they cut AMD extra slack and say it's just immature drivers (again), or if they try to judge it objectively.
One thing that most people fail to understand is that if a new GPU has few changes to its native API, there should be no major driver changes needed, which means the driver should already be mature at launch. (with the possible exceptions of workarounds for GPU errata)
Back with the Polaris, Vega and Navi 1x generations, there were very few driver changes between generations, yet the "immature drivers" excuse were used over and over again, even though their drivers should have been the most mature of all. There is also the tale of the missing performance which never materialized. My theory is that these stability issues are more deep in their core driver, especially since these problems persisted across generations.
I haven't had time to follow the deep changes in Navi 3x yet, but if the trend from the past holds true, we should expect more conservative changes compared to Nvidia. On top of this, AMD has far less extra features and gimmicks in their drivers, so if anything we should expect AMD to have an advantage and have better drivers than Nvidia's at launch. But time will tell.
What a horrid show the comment section has become.
The problem is that AMD as a brand doesn't reach the customers.
Those who have been in the dark with nvidia for ages - maybe it's time to switch to the light with AMD Radeon.
There was already study out showing they're drivers are equivalent in quality.
volumetric quality also has to do with "Nvida PhysX" it's hard coded into the game. Most games that have it as a middleware run like shyt, & stutter on DX12. It's locked to cpu only on DX12.