[HELP] AMD GPU FINDING BIOS PROBLEM

[SasyanoTec]

Hi guys, i have a problem finding the right bios for my Sapphire Nitro+ Special Edition RX590 (with dual bios on the bios switch).
I found 2 bioses for this version of gpu on techpowerup website and i flashed it, but i don't think it's the right one for it, because the pc won't boot anymore (not even to bios).

can somebody help me find the right latest version so i can reflash it and make it work again? (i have another gpu to do this flash, so i can get access to the operating system).

i will attach pictures of all the stickers in my graphics card. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Noci]

Maybe a strange question, but did you flash it on the BIOS eeprom of your mainboard instead of the card?
That would explain the PC not booting anymore.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

You need to take the cooler off so we can match up the bios to the memory chips on board. We need to see the bare pcb

 

[SasyanoTec]

You need to take the cooler off so we can match up the bios to the memory chips on board. We need to see the bare pcb

i don't think so. the pc boots with the other bios (using bios switch). anyway i used ati flash 2.93 to flash the bios.

You need to take the cooler off so we can match up the bios to the memory chips on board. We need to see the bare pcb

i noticed that my gpu has micron memory.

all this mess to update gpu bios only because i have a problem with this gpu (i bought used 1 year ago).

i tried to stress test it with occt in max shader complexity and crashed with black screen and the gpu fans spinning at max; in games it crashes after some time eventually, but it makes only crash the single game and not the whole pc.

the only way for all those issue to not happen and for occt not to crash my pc, is to lower the power limit to -30 on the amd adrenalin software.

i already changed psu (corsair cx 750) and tried the gpu on another system but happens the same.
i wanted to flash to bios to see if they tried to flash a modded bios and maybe that could fix the problem, or else it's a hardware issue.

 

[Noci]

@ P4-630, just figured it could a rookie mistake with the initial description of the problem.

Makes sense the BIOS check before flashing, I didn't realise that as flashing the BIOS is not something I've done often.

Just didn't get why a pc won't boot if the graphics BIOS is corrupted. The MB should at least give an error code or beeps during the POST, but now I see he can POST with the second BIOS.
Hail to the graphic cards with dual BIOS'ses

Shows me I'm never too old to learn. Thanks

 

[SasyanoTec]

@ P4-630, just figured it could a rookie mistake with the initial description of the problem.

Makes sense the BIOS check before flashing, I didn't realise that as flashing the BIOS is not something I've done often.

Just didn't get why a pc won't boot if the graphics BIOS is corrupted. The MB should at least give an error code or beeps during the POST, but now I see he can POST with the second BIOS.
Hail to the graphic cards with dual BIOS'ses

Shows me I'm never too old to learn. Thanks

yess. anyway i just noticed that my gpu crashes because of my memory and not only because of my power limit. i tried lowering the memory clock from 2000 mhz to 1850 mhz and no crashes whatsoever.

 

[VuurVOS]

i don't think so. the pc boots with the other bios (using bios switch). anyway i used ati flash 2.93 to flash the bios.


i noticed that my gpu has micron memory.

all this mess to update gpu bios only because i have a problem with this gpu (i bought used 1 year ago).

i tried to stress test it with occt in max shader complexity and crashed with black screen and the gpu fans spinning at max; in games it crashes after some time eventually, but it makes only crash the single game and not the whole pc.

the only way for all those issue to not happen and for occt not to crash my pc, is to lower the power limit to -30 on the amd adrenalin software.

i already changed psu (corsair cx 750) and tried the gpu on another system but happens the same.
i wanted to flash to bios to see if they tried to flash a modded bios and maybe that could fix the problem, or else it's a hardware issue.

It sounds like the VRM is busted since the lower power limit workaround. Can you remove the backplate and put a fan on the backside of the VRM? Then you can confirm if the card stays stable.

Did you try to flash a RX580 bios Its slightly lower clocked and therefore generating less heat. It should give you more stability.

Quiet bios:

Sapphire RX 580 VBIOS

8 GB GDDR5, 1340 MHz GPU, 2000 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Performance bios:

Sapphire RX 580 VBIOS

8 GB GDDR5, 1411 MHz GPU, 2000 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

 

[SasyanoTec]

It sounds like the VRM is busted since the lower power limit workaround. Can you remove the backplate and put a fan on the backside of the VRM? Then you can confirm if the card stays stable.

Did you try to flash a RX580 bios Its slightly lower clocked and therefore generating less heat. It should give you more stability.

Quiet bios:

Sapphire RX 580 VBIOS

8 GB GDDR5, 1340 MHz GPU, 2000 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Performance bios:

Sapphire RX 580 VBIOS

8 GB GDDR5, 1411 MHz GPU, 2000 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

for the VRM part, can you explain me what is it and if it's worth fixing? i will also tell you that i put the fans of the gpu to max speed, and it lowered the temperature from 83 to 74 (termal paste already changed with arctic-mx6) during stress test but still has issues.

i tried modifying my own bios with a tutorial, using polaris bios editor and i flashed it with amdvbflash tool using the dos version. from 175 watts i lowered to 150 watts and it's perfectly stable all the time.

the thing is that i will buy a 6750 xt very soon so i just wanted to fix it if it's not more than like 20-30 bucks, so i can sell it or use it for hackintosh in another bundle or use it as a capture card.

 

[VuurVOS]

for the VRM part, can you explain me what is it and if it's worth fixing?

VRM is the Voltage Regulator Module which delivers the power to GPU and Memory. When the VRM is about to die, it will become sensitive to heat.
Reparing will cost about the same as buy a different RX580/RX590 card.

i tried modifying my own bios with a tutorial, using polaris bios editor and i flashed it with amdvbflash tool using the dos version. from 175 watts i lowered to 150 watts and it's perfectly stable all the time.

When the bios is modified, you need to use AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher since the bios doesn't have a valid bios signature anymore.

Its beter to use a RX580 bios since it will stress the graphics card less than a RX590 bios.

 

[SasyanoTec]

VRM is the Voltage Regulator Module which delivers the power to GPU and Memory. When the VRM is about to die, it will become sensitive to heat.
Reparing will cost about the same as buy a different RX580/RX590 card.


When the bios is modified, you need to use AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher since the bios doesn't have a valid bios signature anymore.

Its beter to use a RX580 bios since it will stress the graphics card less than a RX590 bios.

for the vrm i understand that i should just keep it as it is. for the bios part (i will put the rx580 bios), i also patched it, but i wanted to ask if i move the gpu to another system do i need to re-patch it?

 

[VuurVOS]

for the vrm i understand that i should just keep it as it is. for the bios part (i will put the rx580 bios), i also patched it, but i wanted to ask if i move the gpu to another system do i need to re-patch it?

Yes always. Even with a driver updated on the current system. Thats why you need to use a bios with a valid bios signature.

 

[SasyanoTec]

Yes always. Even with a driver updated on the current system. Thats why you need to use a bios with a valid bios signature.

oh okay, i understand. i also have another problem: whenever i try to boot the gpu with the modded bios with the secure boot enabled on my motherboard's bios (i have a Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2), it shows black screen and only fans/lights on; the only thing that i noticed is that when i switch to the original bios, it works again and i used this as an advantage to disable the secure boot

obviously without even showing the motherboard's logo or bios

 

[VuurVOS]

oh okay, i understand. i also have another problem: whenever i try to boot the gpu with the modded bios with the secure boot enabled on my motherboard's bios (i have a Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2), it shows black screen and only fans/lights on; the only thing that i noticed is that when i switch to the original bios, it works again and i used this as an advantage to disable the secure boot

obviously without even showing the motherboard's logo or bios

The recent Gigabyte B550 & X570 bios versions before March 2024 had a bug which didn't show post or logo during boot until you where in Windows.
You need to flash the Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 bios to the latest version.

 

[SasyanoTec]

The recent Gigabyte B550 & X570 bios versions before March 2024 had a bug which didn't show post or logo during boot until you where in Windows.
You need to flash the Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 bios to the latest version.

okay okay. i will update the motherboard's bios then. two last questions:

1)what would happen if i didn't patch the modded bios in another pc?
2)which part of the switch is the performance e which the quiet? i mean how am i supposed to find where to flash on or the other?

 

[Noci]

okay okay. i will update the motherboard's bios then. two last questions:

1)what would happen if i didn't patch the modded bios in another pc?
2)which part of the switch is the performance e which the quiet? i mean how am i supposed to find where to flash on or the other?

check the video in the article

https://www.sapphirenation.net/sapphire-how-to-use-dual-bios

 

[SasyanoTec]

check the video in the article

https://www.sapphirenation.net/sapphire-how-to-use-dual-bios

i got it now; thank you for your help Noci.

 

[VuurVOS]

okay okay. i will update the motherboard's bios then. two last questions:

1)what would happen if i didn't patch the modded bios in another pc?
2)which part of the switch is the performance e which the quiet? i mean how am i supposed to find where to flash on or the other?

1) AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher does not patch the bios. It bypasses the driver check so you can install the driver.

2)

 

[SasyanoTec]

1) AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher does not patch the bios. It bypasses the driver check so you can install the driver.

2)
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for the patcher part that's sad, then i will just flash the rx 580 bioses that you gave me.
anyway thank youuu for all your help.