Tuesday, March 20th 2012

AMD Readies Two More FX Series Processors

Mar 20th, 2012 13:26 Discuss (153 Comments)

AMD launched as many as five new FX Series processor models over the course of Q1, 2012. We're hearing from DonanimHaber that two more budget models are en route for Q2, 2012, likely April. These include the quad-core FX-4130, and six-core FX-6130. The FX-4130 features a nominal clock speed of 3.80 GHz, with a tiny Turbo Core boost, that takes it to 3.90 GHz. Interestingly, while the total L2 cache of this chip is 4 MB (2 MB per module), its L3 cache is halved to 4 MB, even as other SKUs such as the FX-4100 have full 8 MB L3 cache. The FX-6130, on the other hand, has a nominal clock speed of 3.60 GHz, with 3.90 GHz Turbo Core speed. Thankfully, AMD didn't tinker with the L3 cache, and users get all 8 MB of it. Both chips have rated TDP of 125W. Pricing is not revealed.

Source: DonanimHaber

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153 Comments on AMD Readies Two More FX Series Processors

#101

AvonX

I know there is an extra pin on the am3+ boards.
I have not tried to install physically an fx processor on my board since i don't have one.
But the question is what pin count does the fx processors have?
And why asus haves this fx processors as compatible with my board with beta bios?
And its not only my board.many others as well am3 boards support fx processors with beta bios.
But not all of them.
And from other vendor boards as well,not only asus.

#102

AvonX

you might be correct about this.i dont know,
then its a mistake from asus to have that there.

#103

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

FX have 942 Pins, and The companies released revision 2 boards

AvonXI know there is an extra pin on the am3+ boards.
I have not tried to install physically an fx processor on my board since i don't have one.
But the question is what pin count does the fx processors have?
And why asus haves this fx processors as compatible with my board with beta bios?
And its not only my board.many others as well am3 boards support fx processors with beta bios.
But not all of them.
And from other vendor boards as well,not only asus.

#104

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

AvonXI know there is an extra pin on the am3+ boards.
I have not tried to install physically an fx processor on my board since i don't have one.
But the question is what pin count does the fx processors have?
And why asus haves this fx processors as compatible with my board with beta bios?
And its not only my board.many others as well am3 boards support fx processors with beta bios.
But not all of them.
And from other vendor boards as well,not only asus.

Both Phenom II (AM3) and FX (AM3+) use a 938-pin micro-PGA package. AM3+ will physically fit in an AM3 socket (BIOS support is necessary from board manufacturer)

References (CPU)*
*from CPU World
AMD Phenom II
www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X4%20955%20-%20HDX955FBK4DGI.html

AMD FX
www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series%20FX-8150.html

Additional references (Socket compatibility)
whatswithjeff.com/amd-black-am3b-socket/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM3

#105

AvonX

so it fits my board.
they would be crazy to have bios for my board in the official website of asus and not to support the fx processors.
I have tried those beta bios, and what they have done they have disabled some minor things in the bios,but still will run an fx processor.
That is why i said for a moded bios.

#106

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

AvonXso it fits my board.
they would be crazy to have bios for my board in the official website of asus.

Just be careful and ensure pin 1 is lined up with the socket otherwise ull bend pins and it doesnt require much force at all to put a cpu in its socket if the pins line up properly

#107

AvonX

So that extra pin on am3+ maybe the piledriver architecture will make use of that specific pin.
Making the piledriver incompatible with am3 boards but compatible with am3+
And its still is not sure,it all comes down to bios.

#108

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

AvonXSo that extra pin on am3+ maybe the piledriver architecture will make use of that specific pin.
Making the piledriver incompatible with am3 boards but compatible with am3+
And its still is not sure,it all comes down to bios.

I just grabbed a board that was AM3+ which is compatible with AM3, but im still unsure if AM3 boards are compatible with FX

#109

AvonX

eidairaman1I just grabbed a board that was AM3+ which is compatible with AM3, but im still unsure if AM3 boards are compatible with FX

LoL
I think you have issues, you got this all mixed up.
You are confused.
What norton said is correct.
Don't make me search for photos on the net so i can show you the difference of the sockets.

#110

nt300

NHKSTDP of 125W for the 4-core versions!.. thats a bit high..
i7-3820 is the only intel 4-core @ 130W TDP..

i feel they are inferior to phenom II X4.. but i guess the FX-41xx cpus offer good performance/price ratios, no?

No not inferior. FX wins most benchmakrs and currently hold very good price/performance.

tricksonWhy ME? i asked valuable question's here.
Is AMD flooding the market or what? A flooded market is not such a good thing. we start to get lost in all the babble!

FX-4100, 4130, 4170,....
FX-6100, 6130, 6200 ,...
FX-8120, 8150,...

Ummm, this is a good thing just like they did with all the PIIs and Athlons.

#111

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

eidairaman1I just grabbed a board that was AM3+ which is compatible with AM3, but im still unsure if AM3 boards are compatible with FX

Only some AM3 boards are supported (beta BIOSes- they aren't officially supported by AMD) and it's apparently easy to fry the power phases on an AM3 board if you overclock an FX too far on it (check that link I added on socket support- not the Wikipedia one)

AM3+ is still the best way to go for proper FX support

#112

AvonX

NortonOnly some AM3 boards are supported (beta BIOSes- they aren't officially supported by AMD) and it's apparently easy to fry the power phases on an AM3 board if you overclock an FX too far on it (check that link I added on socket support- not the Wikipedia one)

AM3+ is still the best way to go for proper FX support

Who cares i will just insert the opteron in there if it will be supported and clock the hell out of it,if it blows up i will just switch to intel. :D

#113

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

NortonOnly some AM3 boards are supported (beta BIOSes- they aren't officially supported by AMD) and it's apparently easy to fry the power phases on an AM3 board if you overclock an FX too far on it (check that link I added on socket support- not the Wikipedia one)

AM3+ is still the best way to go for proper FX support

I can only assume FX has a pin missing but powerphases on certain AM3 boards isnt strong enough to support FX 8120/8150.

i have several links for info, and from sounds of it, AvonX is goin intel anyway...:shadedshu

www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276169-AMD-FX-8120-not-working-with-Asus-M4A89GTD-Pro-USB3-and-3017-OrochiPi-bios

www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276063-Asus-BD-FX-Support-for-Crosshair-IV-890-boards&p=4989828&viewfull=1#post4989828

www.overclock.net/t/1171580/asus-m4a89gtd-pro-for-bulldozer-does-it-work-alright

www.overclock.net/t/1188660/does-my-motherboard-support-fx-8120

www.tomshardware.com/forum/304013-30-updating-bios-asus-m4a89gtd-usb3-4100

answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120210192918AAd6hhx

forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1455417.htm

#114

erocker

Want to know if an AM3 board supports the FX series? Go to the manufacturer web site and look up the CPU compatability list. It's simple.

#115

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Ill just stick with black socket to avoid any confusion and headaches.

#116

erocker

Well, it's to let people know who are wondering. Obviously the black socket boards work.

#117

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

erockerWell, it's to let people know who are wondering. Obviously the black socket boards work.

Ya I was thinkin there was a physical limitation as all other companies released a R 2 of the boards that have same chipset but with black socket...

#118

AvonX

Man get over it.you made a mistake.

#119

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

AvonXMan get over it.you made a mistake.

cool your jets kid

#120

AvonX

eidairaman1cool your jets kid

I am not a kid.
I am probably older than you.
So show some respect.

#121

Vulpesveritas

Back on topic...
Has anyone done any benchmark comparisons of the B2 stepping vs B3 stepping clock-for-clock at all?

#122

AvonX

VulpesveritasBack on topic...
Has anyone done any benchmark comparisons of the B2 stepping vs B3 stepping clock-for-clock at all?

witch ones are B3 stepping?
The new fx processors?

#123

Vulpesveritas

AvonXwitch ones are B3 stepping?
The new fx processors?

Yeah the new releases are B3 stepping chips apparently.

#124

AvonX

VulpesveritasBack on topic...
Has anyone done any benchmark comparisons of the B2 stepping vs B3 stepping clock-for-clock at all?

We don't know if the new vishera piledriver has any improvements clock for clock,what is known for sure is that they will be higher clocked.
And you expect these ones to be better clock for clock?
I don't want to be rude but that was a funny question.

#125

Vulpesveritas

AvonXWe don't know if the new vishera piledriver has any improvements clock for clock,what is known for sure is that they will be higher clocked.
And you expect these ones to be better clock for clock?
I don't want to be rude but that was a funny question.

I'm not wondering about performance improvements, i'm wondering if there is any difference in buying a b2 FX-4100 and overclocking it to the same speeds as the b3 4170. That's more what I'm wondering.

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