Friday, September 4th 2015

AMD Radeon R9 Nano Review by TPU...Not

There won't be a Radeon R9 Nano review on TechPowerUp. AMD says that it has too few review samples for the press. When AMD first held up the Radeon R9 Nano at its "Fiji" GPU unveil, to us it came across as the most promising product based on the chip, even more than the R9 Fury series, its dual-GPU variant, and the food-processor-shaped SFF gaming desktop thing. The prospect of "faster than R9 290X at 175W" is what excited us the most, as that would disrupt NVIDIA's GM204 based products. Unfortunately, the most exciting product by AMD also has the least amount of excitement by AMD itself.

The first signs of that are, AMD making it prohibitively expensive at $650, and not putting it in the hands of the press, for a launch-day review. We're not getting one, and nor do some of our friends on either sides of the Atlantic. AMD is making some of its tallest claims with this product, and it's important (for AMD) that some of those claims are put to the test. A validated product could maybe even convince some to reach for their wallets, to pull out $650.
Are we sourgraping? You tell us. We're one of the few sites that give you noise testing by some really expensive and broad-ranged noise-testing equipment, and more importantly, card-only power-draw. Our reviews also grill graphics cards through 22 real-world tests across four resolutions, each, and offer price-performance graphs. When NVIDIA didn't send us a GeForce GTX TITAN-Z sample, we didn't care. We didn't make an announcement like this. At $2,999, it was just a terrible product and we never wished it was part of our graphs. Its competing R9 295X2 could be had under $700, and so it continues to top our performance charts.

The R9 Nano, on the other hand, has the potential for greatness. Never mind the compact board design and its SFF credentials. Pull out this ASIC, put it on a normal 20-25 cm PCB, price it around $350, and dual-slot cooling that can turn its fans off in idle, and AMD could have had a GM204-killing product. Sadly, there's no way for us to test that, either. We can't emulate an R9 Nano on an R9 Fury X. The Nano appears to have a unique power/temperature based throttling algorithm that we can't copy.

"Fiji" is a good piece of technology, but apparently, very little effort is being made to put it into the hands of as many people as possible (and by that we mean consumers). This is an incoherence between what AMD CEO stated at the "Fiji" unveil, and what her company is doing. It's also great disservice to the people who probably stayed up many nights to get the interposer design right, or sailing through uncharted territory with HBM. Oh well.
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759 Comments on AMD Radeon R9 Nano Review by TPU...Not

#576
Tsukiyomi91
This is becoming a massive shitstorm from AMD's PR dept...
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#579
arbiter
Not sure how they could have a review up if NDA is still in effect according to ryan
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#580
Athlon2K15
HyperVtX™
NDA has to be up by now, my inbox is exploding with reviews
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#581
okidna
Tweaktown, Guru3D, PCPer reviews are all up.

Based on cursory reading, in my opinion : good little card.

EDIT :
-card seems to have a coil whine problem (TT and PCPer clearly complained about it, meanwhile Guru3D remark : "a bit of coil noise").
-good power consumption, good temperature, PCPer review clearly showed that GPU clock is crippled by its power target.
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#582
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
nemalmost 600 coments wtf!

tpu lose by dont have review of nano , come on tpu get an nano .. :p
TPU isn't losing. This conversation brings people here by virtue of it's popularity.
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#583
64K
Tom's Hardware has a review up. For some reason they benched the games at 1080p. That's not where Fiji performs the best but in most games they benched the GTX 980 was faster.
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#585
Ferrum Master
For a thing that's much smaller than my.... ehhrmm... It turned out to pretty good actually...

Yeah the PR sucks really. But hey... they know what they asked for. The negative press will punish them.

But still, I wan't this thing slapped with a cooler from regular fury and that's it. They artificially made some sort of weird looking expensive thing.... Those got to be the poor yields... nothing else.
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#586
ZoneDymo
Review available right now on TP......I mean Guru3d (hint: its looking good)
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#587
v12dock
Block Caption of Rainey Street
Looks like a great little card however all reviews are inferior to TPU
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#588
Kohl Baas
EarthDogYeah, life isn't fair, but we are not talking about pouting children (but adults and website, LOL!).

We are talking about how the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY runs their video cards (using AF) and AMD not doing that. This, to me, is a bit more than simply 'marketing their products in a specific way'. I mean, it is that, yes, but, they are going against what the majority uses, to make their card look better than it is when the 'overwhelming majority' uses them. It is misleading. If you expect 60 FPS because a review said so, now you are getting 45 because they don't use an incredibly common setting...... how is that OK?

Settings will differ from review to review, no doubt, but no AF? Come on....
Regarding to nVidia's statistics, the "OVERWHELMING MAJORITY" don't even set the resolution to a proper value because they don't know how to. They just use whatever settings the game have. And this means 90% of nVidia users.
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#589
Ferrum Master
Kohl BaasRegarding to nVidia's statistics, the "OVERWHELMING MAJORITY" don't even set the resolution to a proper value because they don't know how to. They just use whatever settings the game have. And this means 90% of nVidia users.
Holy... nekkers spawning again...
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#590
john_
KitGuru attacked AMD this summer for not getting a Fury X and now they get a Nano?

Guys I believe after this thread you will get two Fury X2 cards


PS Not to mention Tom's Hardware that does always fair reviews of AMD hardware (.....stop laughing, this is serious :laugh: )
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#591
EarthDog
Kohl BaasRegarding to nVidia's statistics, the "OVERWHELMING MAJORITY" don't even set the resolution to a proper value because they don't know how to. They just use whatever settings the game have. And this means 90% of nVidia users.
WhaaaaT?
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#592
john_
Kohl BaasRegarding to nVidia's statistics, the "OVERWHELMING MAJORITY" don't even set the resolution to a proper value because they don't know how to. They just use whatever settings the game have. And this means 90% of nVidia users.
You do have a point, but on the other hand, that's the reason Nvidia created GeForce Experience.
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#593
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Kohl BaasRegarding to nVidia's statistics, the "OVERWHELMING MAJORITY" don't even set the resolution to a proper value because they don't know how to. They just use whatever settings the game have. And this means 90% of nVidia users.
my dad, and my grandparents (both sides of the family + fiancees) all use 1280x1024 even on 1080p monitors... IT HURTS. i get migraines using it, but they complain if i fix it.
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#594
GhostRyder
Tsukiyomi91@GhostRyder

I see. Some of my buddies however are using liquid-cooling brackets for their 290, since it solves both heat & noise issues as they have the reference model for cheaps... said they too never have any throttling issues whatsoever after making the switch & is happy about it. Bracket I mentioned is Corsair's HG10 A1 Kit + Hydro H75 AIO Kit.
My trio are all under liquid as well, I generally test my cards under extreme conditions to make sure they function before putting liquid blocks on them. Cannot be to careful when it comes to components :p.

I have read some reviews including some over at techspot, it seems the card is actually a little better than I had at least hoped. Left at stock, the card stay quiet, has power consumption slightly above the GTX 980, and performs above the same areas at 1440p and 2160p. Seems the card does have a throttle in place that keeps the clocks in the range of 800-900mhz though to get that performance. However, you can increase the power limit by up to 50% which keeps the card at 1000mhz and that achieves almost identical performance to the Fury X (Minus a slight fps for the 50mhz difference).

Well this can be put to rest then, its not as bad as I thought it could be and they actually allow you to increase the power limit.
Musselsmy dad, and my grandparents (both sides of the family + fiancees) all use 1280x1024 even on 1080p monitors... IT HURTS. i get migraines using it, but they complain if i fix it.
Maybe change it to 1080p and then increase the scaling so it looks bigger.
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#595
Ferrum Master
GhostRyderMaybe change it to 1080p and then increase the scaling so it looks bigger.
How do they use their smartphones? Wait, they don't use ones :D
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#596
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
GhostRyderMaybe change it to 1080p and then increase the scaling so it looks bigger.
they LIKE it stretched sideways. they actually like the aspect ratio being off. i don't feel safe unless i'm around the glorious PC master race.
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#598
Ferrum Master
Rahmat SofyanMaybe this is why :p...
uuh not very professional indeed... okay we can do some profanity in forums... but here in the article...Wh1zz jumped the gun.
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#599
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
is there a source link for that saucy language?
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#600
Dany
Rahmat SofyanMaybe this is why :p...

yeah that pretty much sums it up , this is AMD's reply :

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