In other news, highly selfish people (hardcore gamers) rejoice at yet another mediocre cut-down release catered to social halfwits like themselves from a company that puts the "fish" in selfish.

Source: a former hardcore gamer with a +3 reflection flamesuit :P

Haha, in all seriousness, looking forward to the new standard in PC gaming performance.

Enterprise24Time to hunt for $300 1080 Ti.

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Next stop, dream on city.

KLMRIf only AMD could do with nvidia what recently did with intel cpus.
:(

This has to be kept in perspective; this wasn't the wold shaking eveny, it's been purported to be. While Ryzen was an significant technical accomplishment in that it serves well in both workstation and consumer / gaming, it only resulted in a blip in the market share because being 2nd place in both categories doesn't garner a lot of mind share. Intel still dominates the gaming market 5 to 1 and, while AMDs new CPUs do better than Intel's consumer / gaming CPUs, Intel still led in value on the workstation side in the most significant markets. The $780 1950x for example edges out the $450 7800x in Video editing for example, but only by 0.8 % ... for a 73% increase in price.

www.statista.com/statistics/735904/worldwide-x86-intel-amd-market-share/

Intel has 4 times the market share AMD does. AMD had 27.7% back in Q1 2012 ... 22.3% as recently as Q3 17. In the past year, it has actually dropped to 20.6%. Ryzen dropped in Q1 17 and AMD was at 17.8%, .... in 2 quarters jumped to 22.3% in Q3 17. But since that it has been virtually all downhill, already losing a third of what it gained and now at 20.6. And this with a bunch of new Intel CPUs about to drop.

So yes, while the recent blip is encouraging, we can not exactly say we're living in a whole new world here. AMD's market share just a year ago was 8.3% higher than it is today. Sure there's a bunch of stock pundits out there, still pushing the "pump and dump" (25% of AMDs stock purchases are sold short within 24 hours) .. And we are already seeing signs of the same activity w/ Intel and nVidia ... pundits will push the stock in advance of the post release surge, and after the pent up demand is exhausted, they will dump when sales start to taper off.

What AMD really needs is a hit on the gaming side ... The hugely expensive marketing blitz for the 290x had all the air sucked out of it when nVidia dropped the 1080 Ti ... and hasn't had a contender in the top tier since then. A few weeks later, the reviews came out showing that, while AMD was faster "outta the box, the 290x was very aggressively OC'd in that box and when both cards were OC'd, the 290x got pushed to 3rd place behind the 780 and the 780 Ti. With the 9xx series, AMD got pushed out of the 3rd tier ... and with 10xx, the 4th tier became nVidia's.

On the CPU side the 2950X looks like it will be a hit if it can avoid a comeback from Intel for a decent enough time. Tho given the potential market, it's not going to bump those market share numbers much. What also will hurt AMD is that the plethora of "AMD's [insert new technology here] is going to change everything" campoaigns over past years has left tech folks with a boy cried wolf syndrome. I was approached about building a dual system box (game server / gamein g system) combo with both sets bof compnentry in same box and suggested the 2950x for the server side. By the time the words left my mouth, the user was already "yeah, the 1950x was going to be the next big then and ...."

So yes, I think the 2950X will, eventually, won folks over (again, if they can maintain it aganst a new Intel model) but what AMD needs to do in order to affect Intel in any meaningful way is maintain mind share with a top end CPU, but also capture markey share with enytries into the arket nichges that actually rake in sales and lots of cash. I don't see them doing that in the GFX card segment any time soon though.

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