Friday, November 10th 2023

MINISFORUM Launches EliteMini UM780 XTX Mini PC

MINISFORUM starts the full payment pre-sale of its new flagship mini-PC: UM780 XTX, with a starting price of $479. It stands out as the flagship integrated graphics mini-PC on the market, boasting the most powerful performance and comprehensive interface array. The UM780 XTX, distinguished by its outstanding hardware and innovative design, delivers exceptional performance and diverse interface choices. Compared to its predecessor, the UM780 XTX boasts six major upgrades: enhanced cooling, vertical stand, RGB lighting effects, OCulink support, dual Ethernet ports, and a USB4 layout on both the front and back. These enhancements comprehensively elevate the reliability, expandability, personalization, and user-friendliness of the entire system.

In terms of processing power, the MINISFORUM UM780 XTX features the AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS processor with 8 cores and 16 threads, capable of reaching a maximum overclocking frequency of 5.10 GHz, providing users with outstanding computing capabilities. For CPU performance optimization, the UM780 XTX offers two modes: balanced mode (54 W) and performance mode (70 W). The AMD Radeon 780M integrated graphics in this CPU delivers smooth graphics processing performance, supporting VRAM allocation and positioning the UM780 XTX as one of the most powerful products in the integrated graphics mini-PC market.
Concerning memory, the UM780 XTX supports up to 96 GB (48 GB x2) of dual-channel memory, a significant improvement over the previous 64 GB limit, catering to users with high memory requirements.

To ensure effective CPU cooling, Minisforum has implemented liquid metal as the thermal interface material in the UM780 XTX, effectively reducing temperatures and enhancing system stability.

The UM780 XTX is equipped with two 2.5G RJ45 Ethernet ports, allowing for network aggregation and the possibility of using it as a router with convenient dial-up connections.

In terms of display interfaces, the UM780 XTX provides 1 HDMI 2.1 port and 1 DP1.4 port, supporting a total of 4 simultaneous displays. The DP interface is particularly friendly to high-refresh-rate displays, meeting the demands of users with multiple display devices.

Moreover, the UM780 XTX offers an OCulink interface and includes an M.2 to OCulink adapter, allowing users to seamlessly expand their independent graphics card or connect other high-speed devices. (Using the OCulink interface requires occupying an M.2 slot)

Design-wise, the UM780 XTX Mini PC features a magnetic top cover and RGB backlight. The magnetic top cover design facilitates easy disassembly without the need to remove footpads, enhancing the convenience of maintenance and upgrades. The RGB backlight can be customized with personalized patterns, with users having the option to enable or disable backlighting in the BIOS.

In terms of interfaces, the UM780 XTX offers a rich selection. On the USB-A front, it includes 2 front and 2 rear USB3.2 ports, making it convenient for users to connect external devices. Additionally, the UM780 XTX features a 40 Gbps USB4 port on both the front and back, providing users with a high-speed data transfer experience.

Minisforums UM780 XTX, with its exceptional performance, diverse interface choices, and innovative design, emerges as a flagship product garnering significant attention in the integrated graphics mini-PC market.
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31 Comments on MINISFORUM Launches EliteMini UM780 XTX Mini PC

#1
TumbleGeorge
There is many problem in webpage of product. Only one of them as example:

In specifications is shown much older APU...
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#2
ymdhis
8c/16t Zen 5, 12CU RDNA3, two m.2 slots, and double 2.5G RJ45 (they don't mention the chipset though). This is almost the perfect mini PC I'd want. The only problem I have is that they use this stupid miniature fan inside. If it allowed for a standard replaceable 120mm fan covering the entire area of the chassis, it would be perfect. Just make the thing a few centimeters taller so it can fit a proper fan+heatsink!

But I guess phoenix APUs are coming soon so I could just go the b650i route to get the same thing.
TumbleGeorgeThere is many problem in webpage of product.
The product page shows a desk photo of the product with a "CONAN EOS" camera also there (Canon with the A and O photoshopped around). I found that bit pretty funny.
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#3
A Computer Guy
I would be nice if ECC ram was supported. It would make a nice little home server box.
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#4
Zendou
TumbleGeorgeThere is many problem in webpage of product. Only one of them as example:

In specifications is shown much older APU...
I show this.
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#5
TumbleGeorge
ZendouI show this.
Yes, it might be time to move out of the press release and into the product page. I'll have to look again to see if the page in the screenshot has been repaired. Or is there a new page with a different address? In any case, there are misunderstandings that need to be corrected. If there is an "Elite Mini" series with the exact same name, but far enough APU series that the series have had the same "UM780 XTX" model name for a few years, then I give up. It is so misleading to customers.
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#6
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
TumbleGeorgeYes, it might be time to move out of the press release and into the product page. I'll have to look again to see if the page in the screenshot has been repaired. Or is there a new page with a different address? In any case, there are misunderstandings that need to be corrected. If there is an "Elite Mini" series with the exact same name, but far enough APU series that the series have had the same "UM780 XTX" model name for a few years, then I give up. It is so misleading to customers.
Most likely typo man. That would be really bad if it was the 5000-series APU. :laugh:

Two major features of this particular MINISFORUM model is the inclusion of an Oculink port and the fact that the 7840HS can run up to 70W TDP, which theoretically (or maybe realistically??) should be ECO-mode Ryzen 7 7700X-levels.
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#7
bonehead123
Yee haw, that's alot of powah in a cool little box... a tad taller than it's predecessors (and others from other mfgr's) but I can live with that...

Once the reviews are out & hopefully finds no real issues, I believe this will be replacing my current 11gen/i5 mini-me box.....maybe that fat guy with a sleigh will drop one (gently) down my chimney :D
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#8
ymdhis
CheeseballMost likely typo man. That would be really bad if it was the 5000-series APU. :laugh:

Two major features of this particular MINISFORUM model is the inclusion of an Oculink port and the fact that the 7840HS can run up to 70W TDP, which theoretically (or maybe realistically??) should be ECO-mode Ryzen 7 7700X-levels.
It has a really shitty cooler though so at 70W it would sound like a jet engine.

The oculink port is just a m.2 converter, so you have to sacrifice one of those for using the port.
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#9
HOkay
Honest question, why do people buy these over a laptop? From what I've seen you can buy a laptop with a half decent dedicated GPU for the same kinda price. You can obviously use a laptop docked the whole time if you want a desktop experience. I guess this would be quieter? I doubt form factor is a big deal, you can stick a laptop behind the monitor if you have a desktop setup.
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#10
TumbleGeorge
HOkayHonest question, why do people buy these over a laptop? From what I've seen you can buy a laptop with a half decent dedicated GPU for the same kinda price. You can obviously use a laptop docked the whole time if you want a desktop experience. I guess this would be quieter? I doubt form factor is a big deal, you can stick a laptop behind the monitor if you have a desktop setup.
Looks good+much more ports than laptop. But yes price maybe is little higher than is possible.
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#11
Nostras
HOkayHonest question, why do people buy these over a laptop? From what I've seen you can buy a laptop with a half decent dedicated GPU for the same kinda price. You can obviously use a laptop docked the whole time if you want a desktop experience. I guess this would be quieter? I doubt form factor is a big deal, you can stick a laptop behind the monitor if you have a desktop setup.
Price typically. Minisforum is asking 570 for a 7840HS, slotting in your own RAM and Storage compared to a comparable laptop is still a difference of significantly more than 200 euros.
That aside, cooling is also typically much improved. In laptops manufacturers need to reduce height, NUC-likes have no such problem.
The question still remains whether Minisforum or the laptop manufacturer properly tunes it.

But upgradeability is also very nice, absolute pain in the vast majority of laptops and frameworks is terribly expensive comparitively.
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#12
ShurikN
The specs state 2x sodimm (which makes sense) but in the fourth pic you can clearly see regular udimms
:roll:
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#13
HOkay
NostrasPrice typically. Minisforum is asking 570 for a 7840HS, slotting in your own RAM and Storage compared to a comparable laptop is still a difference of significantly more than 200 euros.
That aside, cooling is also typically much improved. In laptops manufacturers need to reduce height, NUC-likes have no such problem.
The question still remains whether Minisforum or the laptop manufacturer properly tunes it.

But upgradeability is also very nice, absolute pain in the vast majority of laptops and frameworks is terribly expensive comparitively.
Oh if it's that kind of price difference then it's understandable, I thought it was a lot closer. Then of course portability is a huge benefit for some, & zero benefit for others. These NUCs aren't anymore upgradable than just laptops are they? Just storage & RAM? I wouldn't buy a Windows laptop I couldn't upgrade those two in.

It is a shame Framework laptops are just a bit too expensive isn't it, I really want one but I got a 12700H + 3070 laptop for £1k which absolutely smokes the Framework offering in terms of value, even considering my next laptop will probably be £1k, but will get me even more performance ofc.
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#14
ymdhis
HOkayHonest question, why do people buy these over a laptop? From what I've seen you can buy a laptop with a half decent dedicated GPU for the same kinda price. You can obviously use a laptop docked the whole time if you want a desktop experience. I guess this would be quieter? I doubt form factor is a big deal, you can stick a laptop behind the monitor if you have a desktop setup.
The people buying these usually don't need a GPU any more decent than the integrated AMD GPU, and they are significantly smaller than a laptop, especially if you use them with your own monitor/keyboard. A laptop would be a huge waste of space in comparison.
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#15
TumbleGeorge
ymdhisThe people buying these usually don't need a GPU any more decent than the integrated AMD GPU, and they are significantly smaller than a laptop, especially if you use them with your own monitor/keyboard. A laptop would be a huge waste of space in comparison.
Don't forget space for 19 volt DC power adapter for this mini PC.
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#16
HOkay
ymdhisThe people buying these usually don't need a GPU any more decent than the integrated AMD GPU, and they are significantly smaller than a laptop, especially if you use them with your own monitor/keyboard. A laptop would be a huge waste of space in comparison.
Is space for a laptop or SFF desktop on or under a desk really that much of a problem for that many people? Fair enough if so, I just can't see why I'd ever get one over a cheaper SFF PC or a more expensive but more portable laptop. I do like these NUCs though, they're just cool.
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#17
axiumone
It's gotta be fast. Want to know how I know that? It's got a tiger on it!
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#18
AsRock
TPU addict
NostrasPrice typically. Minisforum is asking 570 for a 7840HS, slotting in your own RAM and Storage compared to a comparable laptop is still a difference of significantly more than 200 euros.
That aside, cooling is also typically much improved. In laptops manufacturers need to reduce height, NUC-likes have no such problem.
The question still remains whether Minisforum or the laptop manufacturer properly tunes it.

But upgradeability is also very nice, absolute pain in the vast majority of laptops and frameworks is terribly expensive comparitively.
$479 right now, in the US at least

store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-um780-xtx
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#19
Zareek
I would definitely consider one of these if they offered their own version of the GPD G1 for it. Alternatively, an updated HX series with a Phoenix CPU and 7000M GPU in it would be nice.
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#21
AusWolf
Looks impressive! I might think of something similar as a HTPC upgrade next time. :)
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#22
Superghetto420
Well If anyone has any doubts there is a video on youtube of someone using this badboy with a 4090
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#23
HOkay
Superghetto420Well If anyone has any doubts there is a video on youtube of someone using this badboy with a 4090
Wait, how is the 4090 connected...?

Edit: Just Googled Oculink, now I understand! Bit annoying given I've got a Thunderbolt 3 enclosure...but very cool to see!
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#24
AsRock
TPU addict
TumbleGeorgeI think only barebone is for this price. When add RAM and SSD price will increase.
yes, as it says on the website,
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#25
MichiGreen
Does this have standard or graphical bios? Is iefi accessible in the bios? Does the manufacturer software of the memory and ssd recognize and support their hardware? What is the manufaccturer and part number of the motherboard? These are all issues that I had with the UM790 Pro, and don't want to repeat with another minisforum device. I'm tired of several crashes/day...
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