Tuesday, August 13th 2024

AMD Readies Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processor with 3D V-Cache

If you're on the Socket AM4 platform, AMD is never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around and desert you; never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye, never gonna tell a lie, and hurt you. The company is reportedly giving finishing touches to a firecracker of a sub-$200 chip for price-conscious gamers, the Ryzen 5 5500X3D. That's right, AMD is bringing 3D V-cache technology to the mid-range, with a new 6-core processor based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, but enjoying the gaming performance boost from 96 MB of L3 cache on tap.

AMD already has a 6-core X3D Socket AM4 chip, the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, which joined the product stack a couple of years after AMD's original Ryzen 7 5800X3D took the gaming PC processor scene by storm, matching the then swanky new Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake" despite being based on an older-generation "Zen 3" architecture. Not much else is known about the 5500X3D, except that it could have a lower clock speed than the 5600X3D. Back in November 2023, when news of the 5700X3D first hit the scene, the 5500X3D was rumored to be a 6-core/12-thread chip with 3.00 GHz base frequency and 4.00 GHz maximum boost, compared to the 3.30 GHz base and 4.40 GHz boost frequency of the 5600X3D. Given that AMD launched the 5600X3D at $230, AMD could target a sub-$200 price point to wow gamers on AM4, such as $199.
Why is AMD continuing to launch Socket AM4 chips well into the mid-2020s? We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I—the new Socket AM5 lacks backwards-compatibility with DDR4, and as such AMD would be abandoning a large value-conscious desktop market to Intel, which supports DDR4 on even its 14th Gen Core processors. While AMD can't backport Zen 4 to AM4, it can do the next best thing—expand Zen 3 with 3D V-cache to more market segments, and bring Zen 4 kind of gaming performance to those segments. This could probably also have something to do with AMD's wafer-supply agreement with GlobalFoundries, which provides the 12 nm client I/O die for these "new" chips.
Sources: Harukaze5719 (Twitter), chi11eddog (Twitter)
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114 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processor with 3D V-Cache

#26
Lew Zealand
A Computer GuyThe 5500 is around $90 on NewEgg. 5500X3D might be an ideal upgrade from 2600 for $120.
This has little relation to the 5500 and its price as the 5500 is a repurposed mobile part. This 5500X3D is a detuned 5600 desktop part with 3D cache for which $200 seems reasonable.

No shade on the 5500 as it's a standout part at that price (bought one for the kid's PC) but it's not related to this purported 5500X3D.
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#27
R0H1T
ChomiqBecause reject dies.
Also because AM4 is still alive :pimp:
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#28
SL2
$120 sounds unlikely for the 5500X3D, the 5600 currently sits at $125.
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#29
Tomgang
So basically its a 5800X3D that was to bad to be even a 5600X3D. Hmm well if at least is more available than 5600X3D was it. I guess it some what good, but don't know about pricing.

It all good and all. But seriously AMD, if you want am4 to be legendary. Gives us high-end users that glories 5900X3D/5950X3D as well. We have seen gamer nexus some time ago show a prototype 5950X3D. So we know for a fact it can be done. Its more do amd really want to do it or not. But it could really be sweet with a 5950X3D up to rtx 5000 release.

I hope, but chances are properly low to ever happen.
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#30
R0H1T
Maybe or maybe something to fill the sub $100-150 price points, AMD doesn't have much there to compete atm.
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#31
erocker
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People know AMD is sandbagging performance due to lousy competition. This series is barely a step above the previous series. Maybe things will pick-up once they start selling X3D chips and x8xx series motherboards but I don't expect much.
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#32
R0H1T
I don't expect much change, if at all, till AM4 chips are still selling. When was the last time you saw 3 active (major) generation of CPU's selling simultaneously as well as they have in the last 20-25 years?

Five if you count some geographies where you can still find 2xxx chips on sale.
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#34
mtosev
Nice to see long term support of the AM4 socket/platform from amd.
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#36
wNotyarD
It seems AMD won't let AM4 die as long as DDR4 still sells.
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#37
LabRat 891
Worth saying, again...

AM4ever!
:roll:

When/if money allows, I'd love to have all 3-4 of my AM4 builds be X3D. (historically, more cache = longer legs)
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#38
Broken Processor
AsRock$199 ?, when you can get the 5700X3D for $210 right now.
It's a no brainer to go 5700x3d for the extra $10 hopefully they will get discount in fact I'd expect the entire lineup to see discounts once 9xxxx3d gets released.
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#40
Totally
R0H1TI don't expect much change, if at all, till AM4 chips are still selling. When was the last time you saw 3 active (major) generation of CPU's selling simultaneously as well as they have in the last 20-25 years?

Five if you count some geographies where you can still find 2xxx chips on sale.
Intel ia simultaneously selling 12th, 13th, 14th Gen CPUs and new 15th Gen soon

It isn't just an AMD thing.
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#41
R0H1T
13/14 gen is the same, even 13th gen is a minor tick compared to 12th ~ Intel's last major uarch change was from 10th gen to 11th although you could argue P/E cores are just as big.
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#42
freeagent
They should make an X3D dual CCD part just to shut us up :)
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#43
wNotyarD
freeagentThey should make an X3D dual CCD part just to shut us up :)
Would I buy a 5950X3D? Hardly ever. Would I like it to exist? Damn sure.
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#44
SL2
TotallyIntel ia simultaneously selling 12th, 13th, 14th Gen CPUs and new 15th Gen soon

It isn't just an AMD thing.
The difference is that LGA1700 is still Intel's latest socket, but given the FUD surrounding Rocket Rusty Raptor lake with all its economy cores, I wonder if they dare retiring Alder anytime soon.
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#45
starfals
I cant wait for 5400X3D :D the 4 core version!
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#46
Wirko
SteevoIs AMD producing their own 3D cache chip or just buying the silicon and packaging it?
TSMC makes all the chips. The other thing only they can do is hybrid bonding, which glues and connects the CCD and cache chip together. But there's a twist, in between comes a step that only AMD can do, and that's testing and binning. Only then can they decide which CCDs are the most suitable for Ryzen/TR/Epyc 3D products. I don't know, I'm just assuming AMD has a testing facility in Taiwan, so they can avoid sending chips around the world twice more.
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#47
SL2
WirkoI don't know, I'm just assuming AMD has a testing facility in Taiwan, so they can avoid sending chips around the world twice more.
I bet @TheLostSwede knows if that's how it works.
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#48
DeathtoGnomes
I got a brand spanking new broken skateboard I'd like to sell for profit.
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#49
Daven
Now AMD is just trolling Intel’s constant socket changes with this chip.
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#50
Catscratch
freeagentThey should make an X3D dual CCD part just to shut us up :)
I could've shut up if 5500x3d was a 5ghz baseline chip without SMT. That would suprise me the most :D
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