Wednesday, September 7th 2005

R520 spy pics

HKEPC has the R520 core picture (here), we have the full PCB.

The card you are seeing is the R520 XT. It is a dual slot solution and uses a cooler similar to the X850. ATI will also offer one-slot versions which will have less performance.

The will only be PCI-Express boards. AGP versions are definitely not planned.
Internally the chip will use 512-bit memory transfers. However, the external memory interface will still be 256-bit - expect some nice marketing from ATI regarding that "feature".

Right now the product lineup is:
R520 XT
  • 512MB RAM
  • ~600 MHz core
  • ~650-700 MHz memory
  • Dual slot cooling
  • Dual DVI
R520 XL
  • 256MB RAM
  • ~500 MHz core
  • ~500 MHz memory
  • Single slot cooling
  • VGA + DVI
R520 LE
  • 256MB RAM
  • ~450 MHz core
  • ~450 MHz memory
  • Single slot cooling
  • VGA + DVI
R520 XT Crossfire Edition
  • 256MB RAM
  • ~600 MHz core
  • ~650-700 MHz memory
  • Dual slot cooling
  • VGA + DVI
I guess we can expect a Pro version in between there soon.

In the thread at HKEPC linked above (translated) "it is likely that the ATI R520 will change its name to ATI Radeon X1800 series, the estimated release date for the ATI X900 series is early October".
One of these two names is correct my source says, he didn't want to reveal which one though. The October release date is correct.
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150 Comments on R520 spy pics

#126
Bonami
Cool,your gonna be Real Happy with the 7800 GTX,I know I am!! :D
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#127
Shadow_Reaper
Yes I cannot wait, Only thing I need to really worry about it a good power supply for $170. Any ideas? Keep in mind I donot wanna have to buy a new one when I go SLI... Thx for any suggestions.
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#128
latterbuoy
BonamiHow can anyone comment on something they don't have! I used to be an nVidia Fan years ago,then nVidia didn't have anything to Compete with ATI so I switched! Now ATI's trying to catch nVidia and they can't! Their New Card is going to be a Dual slot with only 16 Pipelines and a whole lotta nothing except for Optimized Drivers there trying to use to Inflate their Performance Scores to Win over their Existing Users! ATI's a Canadian Company and they should have alot of Canadian Fans but Lately they don't Simply because their Products aren't Good Enough!
I own a MSI n7800 GTX 256Mb on an ASUS A8N SLI Mobo powered by an AMD64 3500+,and the Performance is AWESOME,along with 24 Pipelines instead of 16! How can someone Post a Comment like: nvidia sucks so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when you don't even own one,and Probably can't Convince your Parents to Buy you one!!! The Truth of the Matter is: nVidia's 7800 GTX is a 24 Pipeline Card and a Single slot card that Blows ATI out of the Water! You can Cry,Wine, and hate nVidia all you want,but the Fact is: nVidia's the King and Long may he Reighn!! I build Gaming Systems and my Customers would be Very Disappointed if I Recommeded something that was 2nd Grade like ATI is Now! Cry,Hate all you want but the Facts are the Fact!!
nVidia Rules!!!!

All Winers Comments Welcome!!

P/S: I own both Brands of these Cards,so I'm not being BIAS, I've Tried Both!! You should Really Research before you Post Foolish Comments! But I suppose some of you are 13 and Under,if not,Grow Up!

System Specs:

AMD64 3500+(Newcastle Core)
ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe
MSI NX 7800 GTX
2- 80 GB Maxtor Harddrives
1 LG DVDRW Dual Layer
1 LG CDRW
Enermax 535 Watt SLI Ready P/S
Gigabyte Cooler Pro CPU Cooler
Bonami Custom Built Case
Sound Blaster Audigy Sound

3D Mark05 – 7867 1024x768 default
3D Mark05 – 8872 800x600 default
3D Mark03 – 15848 Default
3D mark 2001SE 23596 Default
Those specs are great, I was actually thinking of getting the Leadtek 6800GT but after finding out it occupies 2 slots, I decided to look elsewhere, maybe MSI 6800GT which only occupies one slot? I can't afford to use up the adjacent PCI slot as I need it for my sound card. But damn the Leadtek card is much cheaper than the MSI one.

I know the 6600GT probably owns the upper midrange crown as it clobbers the X700Pro, so when is the 7600GT gonna be released? And what's the whole deal about Shader Model 3 support?
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#129
latterbuoy
Shadow_ReaperYes I cannot wait, Only thing I need to really worry about it a good power supply for $170. Any ideas? Keep in mind I donot wanna have to buy a new one when I go SLI... Thx for any suggestions.
Sorry for double posting, but these are replies to two different people.

Always buy a PSU from a Tier 1 manufacturer such as Antec, Acbel or Enermax. Since you're gonna get a 7800GTX, and you may be going SLI in the future, you're need a minimum of 500W. That said, I would recommend Antec Truepower II 550W or Acbel I-Power 500W or 550W. The Acbel has TRIPLE 12V rails for more stable power to your CPU, GC and MB, perfect for power hungry cards or SLI setups. As for Enermax, I don't have any recommendations. You can ask Bonami as he owns a Enermax PSU. Don't know if this is true, but I read somewhere that a 7800GTX SLI requires a minimum 22A on the 12V rail.

Although they cost more than other brands, please bear in mind that a good PSU will provide you with years of stable power to your expensive components, and will last you at least a few upgrades. I can't stress this enough. Those generic PSUs that come bundled with cheap casings are crap really, as they cannot supply the exact wattage specified. Using a lousy PSU may fry your system or result in system instability or crashes. As a general guide, you can judge the quality of the PSU by its weight. The heavier the PSU, the better it is.
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#130
Shadow_Reaper
latterbuoySorry for double posting, but these are replies to two different people.

but I read somewhere that a 7800GTX SLI requires a minimum 22A on the 12V rail.

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www.bfgtech.com/7800GTX_256_PCIX.html

THat shows the Minimum System Requirements.
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#131
wazzledoozle
Shadow_Reaperwww.bfgtech.com/7800GTX_256_PCIX.html

THat shows the Minimum System Requirements.
A minimum 400W system power supply (with 12V current rating of 26A or more)
NVIDIA SLI configurations, a minimum 500W system power supply (with 12V rating of 34A)
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#132
djbbenn
Wouldn't be surprised... You should have a really good PSU anyways if you can afford two 7800GTX's.

-Dan
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#133
Mad Cow
watch nvidia throw out a g80 gpu whenthe r520 comes out
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#134
Dippyskoodlez
Mad Cowwatch nvidia throw out a g80 gpu whenthe r520 comes out
im thinking more along an oc'd 7800gtx when 520 hits.. a new core would be a waste.
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#135
Mad Cow
well if the timer on ati's website is for the r520 its just a mealy 5 days to find out how it will do
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#136
intel igent
ive heard rumors of r520 scoring 9100+ in 3dmark05, i hope its true ;)
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#137
djbbenn
Dippyskoodlezim thinking more along an oc'd 7800gtx when 520 hits.. a new core would be a waste.
Agree, I heard of the 7800 Ultra...don't know how true it is, but it makes sense.

Those X1800's better score that good, if they want to beat Nvidia. The prices they are asking aren't very good compaired to Nvidia at the moment.

-Dan
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#138
Dippyskoodlez
djbbennAgree, I heard of the 7800 Ultra...don't know how true it is, but it makes sense.

Those X1800's better score that good, if they want to beat Nvidia. The prices they are asking aren't very good compaired to Nvidia at the moment.

-Dan
along with crossfire not going over very well with people... :mad:

ATI got a bit big headed....
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#139
intel igent
im a bit of a knob so can someone tell me how crossfire competes with 2x6800u in SLI.

i mean if 1 x850 is better than 1 6800u, i would imagine that crossfire x850 is better than 6800u sli?

correct me if im wrong
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#143
intel igent
i dont like reading, it hurts my brain :D

from what ive read so far it would appear that my theory is correct, it makes me wonder how people complain about crossfire not being able to keep up with 7800 sli, theyre 2 DIFFERENT generation cards, but when compared to 6800 sli.............pwn3d

just wait for x1800 crossfire ;)

all i can say is that this week is going to be very interesting and im looking forward to every minute of it :D
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#144
Shadow_Reaper
www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=730

Here is a review I found showing that both SLI 6800 Ultra and Crossfire x850 XT are pretty evenly matched so far. And I think that the new x1800 series should close the gap on nVidia and possibly take it the dual card throne away(but we are not certain yet).

So as usual it depends on the games you play most and what you are doin with the dual Video cards.
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#145
intel igent
you know, another thing i noticed is that these tests have been done with x850xt's, is there no platinum edition for crossfire?

sorry for going off topic :o
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#146
Bonami
Answer to What P/S I'm Using!

The P/S I bought was the Enermax 535 PCI-E -SLI Ready!! Exellent P/S and Nvidia Approved!! I just Sold my 3500+ and bought my 3700+ with that San-Diego Core,And I Love it!! Later Guys!!
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#147
Jayme
The R520 will have 32 pipelines and 10 vertex engines.
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#149
djbbenn
JaymeThe R520 will have 32 pipelines and 10 vertex engines.
Thats what they said at first...but they wont. 16 pipes and thats all.

-Dan
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