6 Gbps SATA Drives Could Arrive as Early as Q2 2009

alexp999 · Jan 7, 2009

According to reports by TechConnect Magazine, the third generation of the SATA interface could be introduced as early as the second quarter of this year. The Serial ATA International Organization (SATA-IO), who have developed the technology, are expected to finalize specifications, with the launch of products sporting the new interface at the same time. The first backwards compatible drives to feature the new interface are expected to be solid state drives (SSD), followed by hard disk drives (HDD) shortly after. The main advancement is doubling the bandwidth from 3Gbps to 6Gbps, but until the official announcement of the final specifications are released, we will not know what further changes are in store.

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newtekie1 · Jan 7, 2009

What is the point when drives aren't even hitting 1.5Gb/s, and they definitely aren't even coming close to 3.0Gb/s?

insider · Jan 7, 2009

RAID performance with multiple drives?

oli_ramsay · Jan 7, 2009

newtekie1 said:
What is the point when drives aren't even hitting 1.5Gb/s, and they definitely aren't even coming close to 3.0Gb/s?

The newer intel SSDs hit way over 1.5Gbps (about 250MB/s read speed) and a faster SATA standard would allow them and others to design an even faster drives, I dread to think how much they would cost though. Hopefully by the time motherboards with SATA 6Gbps are released, SSDs will have come down in price.

cool_recep · Jan 7, 2009

newtekie1 said:
What is the point when drives aren't even hitting 1.5Gb/s, and they definitely aren't even coming close to 3.0Gb/s?

1.5 Gbps is equal to 187.5 MB/s

3.0 Gbps is equal to 375 MB/s

SSDs have reached these speeds. BTW there may be improvements with the response time too.

Sonido · Jan 7, 2009

newtekie1 said:
What is the point when drives aren't even hitting 1.5Gb/s, and they definitely aren't even coming close to 3.0Gb/s?

SSDs are coming extremely close close to the limit of 3.0Gb/s. It's not there yet, but it could be. It's more of a preemptive strike. When PATA was the standard, it was getting beat before the newer revisions were out.

HDDs, however, are barely struggling on the 1.5Gb/s SATA. Next gen HDDs will be within the current SSD read/write levels. I actually prefer a HDD to a SDD.

Exavier · Jan 7, 2009

oh joy..my 2x 1TB HDDs just became obselete in theory /cry

Woody112 · Jan 8, 2009

Sonido said:
SSDs are coming extremely close close to the limit of 3.0Gb/s. It's not there yet, but it could be. It's more of a preemptive strike. When PATA was the standard, it was getting beat before the newer revisions were out.

HDDs, however, are barely struggling on the 1.5Gb/s SATA. Next gen HDDs will be within the current SSD read/write levels. I actually prefer a HDD to a SDD.

I seriously doubt their will ever be a next generation HDD. Due to the fact their is really nothing else they can do to make an individual drive any faster than it already is. Density is being pushed to the max as it is, we already have perpendicular magnetic recording. Really what else can they do? SSD's the sky is the limit, newer faster memory is always right around the corner.

spearman914 · Jan 8, 2009

6GPBS = 750MBps. That's fast!!! But I doubt the drives will really do 750MBps.

a_ump · Jan 8, 2009

Woody112 said:
I seriously doubt their will ever be a next generation HDD. Due to the fact their is really nothing else they can do to make an individual drive any faster than it already is. Density is being pushed to the max as it is, we already have perpendicular magnetic recording. Really what else can they do? SSD's the sky is the limit, newer faster memory is always right around the corner.

agree, i give SSD's ~5-10years before they're standard and HDD are to SSD's like CD drives are to DVD drives

newtekie1 · Jan 8, 2009

oli_ramsay said:
The newer intel SSDs hit way over 1.5Gbps (about 250MB/s read speed) and a faster SATA standard would allow them and others to design an even faster drives, I dread to think how much they would cost though. Hopefully by the time motherboards with SATA 6Gbps are released, SSDs will have come down in price.

cool_recep said:
1.5 Gbps is equal to 187.5 MB/s

3.0 Gbps is equal to 375 MB/s

SSDs have reached these speeds. BTW there may be improvements with the response time too.

Sonido said:
SSDs are coming extremely close close to the limit of 3.0Gb/s. It's not there yet, but it could be. It's more of a preemptive strike. When PATA was the standard, it was getting beat before the newer revisions were out.

HDDs, however, are barely struggling on the 1.5Gb/s SATA. Next gen HDDs will be within the current SSD read/write levels. I actually prefer a HDD to a SDD.

Intel's high end SSD drives have not even come close to reaching these speeds. Burst speeds are only hitting 250MB/s, and sustained read speeds are only 230MB/s. No where near the 375MB/s given by SATA 3.0Gb/s. And it is unlikely we will see SSD drives breaking the 375MB/s mark.

a_ump said:
agree, i give SSD's ~5-10years before they're standard and HDD are to SSD's like CD drives are to DVD drives

I doubt it, SSD drives still have horribly short life spans and that won't change any time soon. I'm not going to pay $500+ for a 32GB drive only to have it fail after a year of use.

a_ump · Jan 8, 2009

hey the best ones are only $300

but i hear you i won't buy an SSD until they're prices around 250gb fro 100-120. True SSD's won't change anytime soon, but 5-10years is a good amount of time especially in the computing world.

PCpraiser100 · Jan 8, 2009

OMG does this mean I have to upgrade to another motherboard once it arrives? If upgrading is not as easy as BIOS updates I'm going to go nuts!

Nitro-Max · Jan 8, 2009

Depends on price alot too to be fair if there talking stupid money then it wont catch on as much till prices fall

TheScavenger · Jan 8, 2009

Sonido said:
SSDs are coming extremely close close to the limit of 3.0Gb/s.

I wish they would come close to the limit of my wallet :cry:

Mussels · Jan 8, 2009

newtekie1 said:
What is the point when drives aren't even hitting 1.5Gb/s, and they definitely aren't even coming close to 3.0Gb/s?

the Gb speeds are misleading. they include signaling data. The real speed of SATA-II is 300MB/s, and there most definately are SSD drives out there doing 250MB/s+

Within 2 years, its very obvious that SSD's will be outperforming SATA-II's 300MB/s limit, so if they release SATA-III this year it gives time for PC's to upgrade at the same rate as SSD's.

p3ngwin · Jan 8, 2009

a lot of people here seem to be focussing too much on the synching of the timing of the current SSD speeds and the interface.
worry less about TODAYS SSD speeds and the interface they use, and instead realise that SSD speeds are increasing incredible fast compared to the interface they use.

SATA 1.5gb/s=2001
SATA 3.0gb/s=2005
SATA 6.0gb/s=2008

as you can see it takes a while for the transmission standard to evolve (although looks to be evolving faster).
SSD's have been around in various forms since the 1990's, with the military and specialist companies enjoying the cutting edge technology of the time compared to disk platter based drives.

compare the SATA spec evolution with the evolution of the SSD speeds. where in just the 1st two years (of "consumer" SSD's), where DELL, Apple and Asus were using them.

the 1st SSD's 2 years ago barely managed 50/25 (read/write).
today, regardless of price, we already have SINGLE (not raid) SSD's that can handle nearly 300Mb/s transfers!

the evolution of the drives is outpacing transfer mechanisms. it seems the tables have turned as for many years single hard drives never approached their interface limits.
this is why the SATA spec can't evolve fast enough for us.

it matters less that it seems to be overkill for TODAY's SSD's and is more about future proofing us. it will be another few years before the storage device interface spec evolves to accommodate us, and by then we can only imagine what speeds we'll be transferring.

Deleted member 3 · Jan 8, 2009

insider said:
RAID performance with multiple drives?

Every SATA drive has the full bandwidth anyway, so it won't matter. Unless you're using multiplexers, which few people actually do. It's only interesting for RAMdrives and future SSD's. Normal harddrives won't get that fast in the coming years.

Mussels · Jan 8, 2009

DanTheBanjoman said:
Unless you're using multiplexers, which few people actually do.

I do! i has a port multiplier.

Anywho, dan is definately right on single drives, except for SSD's. SSD's are definately already 250MB+, and reaching the limits of SATA-II

kyle2020 · Jan 8, 2009

6GB Burst / peak? So not 100% of the time like most would like to believe haha.

Flyordie · Jan 8, 2009

Sonido said:
SSDs are coming extremely close close to the limit of 3.0Gb/s. It's not there yet, but it could be. It's more of a preemptive strike. When PATA was the standard, it was getting beat before the newer revisions were out.

HDDs, however, are barely struggling on the 1.5Gb/s SATA. Next gen HDDs will be within the current SSD read/write levels. I actually prefer a HDD to a SDD.

loool
SSDs have already successfully gone past the 375MB/s barrier...
SATA is so slow right now compared to current generation SSDs (only 1 company currently has current gen SSDs, and thats Micron Technology, Intel is still last gen)
They have a current sustained write speed of over 600MB/s. Add another SSD (they are expandable) and get 1100-1200MB/s sustained Writes...
So, its coming in line with Micron's release date for their SSDs (1Q-2Q 09).
Hope ya'll enjoy your el-cheapo Intel SSDs. ;-) Slow pokes.

Mussels · Jan 8, 2009

Flyordie said:
loool

Hope ya'll enjoy your el-cheapo Intel SSDs. ;-) Slow pokes.

cough. seen your system specs lately? :nutkick:

Woody112 · Jan 8, 2009

Mussels said:
cough. seen your system specs lately?

That shit's funny

Disparia · Jan 8, 2009

Lol, I've been reading this argument since ATA33 vs ATA66

Hayder_Master · Jan 11, 2009

i think maybe new technology release for ssd maybe like raid give us high bandwidth

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