Phenom II X3 Can be Unlocked to Phenom II X4?

[newtekie1]

I'll give you some more links. maybe you can get some more informations about this topic.

Tom's Hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-258421_28_50.html

Korean overclocker's video (also posted Tom's hardware forum)
http://dory.mncast.com/mncastPlayer.swf?movieID=10080554320090223193027&skinNum=1
(spoken in English - alternative link here http://www.vimeo.com/3333450)


Parkoz Hardware AMD Overclock forum (Korean hardware site)
http://www.parkoz.com/zboard/zboard.php?id=overclock_amd
(Korean. you may use translation service like http://translate.google.com/)

Interesting, he does it on an 720 in the video, the original is about a 710. I wonder if these are engineering samples though? Do AMD engineering samples identify themselves as engeneering samples in CPU-z? Another thing, why does he keep turning the machine completely off and then back on after saving the BIOS? Makes me wonder if he doesn't just have two machines next to eachother in the video and just switches between them to trick us into thinking he is using the same CPU.

If someone at TPU or a legit source confirms this, I'll definitely be picking up a Phenom II rig in the near future.

 

[VulkanBros]

Hey, I have a laptop If it doesn't post with the modded CPUID, I have a Semperon in my server, a 4200+ sitting next to me, a PII 920 in my HTPC(my dad might kill me if he notices it's gone lol) and my mom has a 4200+ X2 in her rig too.

I don´t want to see your electrical bill .. hehe

 

[MilkyWay]

TheMailMan78 should give it a rest with his big gob. Well im going to be getting one of these cpu so if i get some extra performance with a half ass core then cool.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Interesting, I been planning on getting a 720, this would be a nice little bonus!

 

[cdawall]

Interesting, he does it on an 720 in the video, the original is about a 710. I wonder if these are engineering samples though? Do AMD engineering samples identify themselves as engeneering samples in CPU-z? Another thing, why does he keep turning the machine completely off and then back on after saving the BIOS? Makes me wonder if he doesn't just have two machines next to eachother in the video and just switches between them to trick us into thinking he is using the same CPU.

If someone at TPU or a legit source confirms this, I'll definitely be picking up a Phenom II rig in the near future.

yes they do they say AMD ES chip

 

[TechnicalFreak]

Ok, so I watched the video. All I can say is , so if I would get same hardware as he does, think I could do the same, or is it just pure luck (getting an X3 unlocked to a stable X4)?

And to the Korean guy
That's cool.




EDIT: I watched all the videos, and couldn't not notice that it said "X3" and showed 4 cores..
I think this is the real deal.

 

[Azaloum90]

according to some guys at hard forum (where i post at regularly), this is REAL!

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1396240

 

[SeanG]

Why would you bother buying a 3 core cpu when theres probably something wrong with that 4th core and it isnt much cheaper than a real 4 core?Just cause he says he can do it doesnt mean you should go out and waste money and buy one.

 

[Azaloum90]

i never said that... it may not be smart to do it, thats only logical. but that doesn't null the fact that you can do it

 

[Flyordie]

several people have messed had a 4th core show up after failed oc's.


its already well known that these chips are not laser cut just hardware locked

Yes, and how long have I been saying that? lolz.

btw- there may be nothing wrong with the 4th core. Maybe it just didn't pass QC (as they clock these up to 3.6Ghz on 1.5V on routine tests).

 

[newtekie1]

Why would you bother buying a 3 core cpu when theres probably something wrong with that 4th core and it isnt much cheaper than a real 4 core?Just cause he says he can do it doesnt mean you should go out and waste money and buy one.

Because that is the type of people we are. Remember, this whole site was essentially founding on the idea of unlocking pipelines in video cards in hopes that they aren't damaged. Turning 9500's into 9700's, turning 9800SE's into 9800Pro's, turning x800GTO's into x800XT's. It is this type of thing we live for. We love it when you can get take something cheap and make it perform like something expensive.

And it is much cheaper. If you unlock a 720BE, it essentially becomes a 920BE, which is about $50 more(for a standard 920, not a BE).

And you aren't wasting money, worst case is that it doesn't work, and then you still get what you paid for.

 

[TheMailMan78]

TheMailMan78 should give it a rest with his big gob.

WTF does that mean?

 

[DrPepper]

gob means mouth in scotland.

 

[TheMailMan78]

gob means mouth in scotland.

Well that isn't a very nice thing to say. Why the negativity MilkyWay?

 

[suraswami]

Because that is the type of people we are. Remember, this whole site was essentially founding on the idea of unlocking pipelines in video cards in hopes that they aren't damaged. Turning 9500's into 9700's, turning 9800SE's into 9800Pro's, turning x800GTO's into x800XT's. It is this type of thing we live for. We love it when you can get take something cheap and make it perform like something expensive.

And it is much cheaper. If you unlock a 720BE, it essentially becomes a 920BE, which is about $50 more(for a standard 920, not a BE).

And you aren't wasting money, worst case is that it doesn't work, and then you still get what you paid for.

If this is true, I hope the 4th core is just a lazy core, so if I were to grab one of these, I would overclock from AOD only those 3 known cores and keep the 4th at default or whatever lazy speed it likes to (to find which core is bad I would have to do the round robin thing). The 4th core will be used to running background things, like virus scanning, print server, file sharing, virtual machine etc.

 

[btarunr]

Peace. I've updated the pictures (screenshot extracts) to their actual resolution.

 

[ShadowFold]

Anyone with a SB600 mobo want to send me their 710/720 to see if this works I'll give it back I promise!

 

[DRDNA]

Well that isn't a very nice thing to say. Why the negativity MilkyWay?

When this happens to me I always ignore that behavior and never feed into it ...maybe a JK maybe not but I never ever reply to negative statements even if they say "what are you stupid?"So be one up and just ignore it.Probably in reference to your avator though.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Why would you bother buying a 3 core cpu when theres probably something wrong with that 4th core and it isnt much cheaper than a real 4 core?Just cause he says he can do it doesnt mean you should go out and waste money and buy one.

Because AMD is awesome and allows us to clock each core the way we want it. Most apps only use 2 cores and those extra 2 cores go to things like WMP (they don't need to be crazy fast). So if you pick up an extra core, even if you have to down clock it, for absolutely nothing (I mean money wise) then why wouldn't you?

And the $119 for a 710 vs the $190 for a 920 is a pretty huge difference in price. Now your saying, "the 710 wouldn't be a 920!!!". Ok your right it would be a 910 because it runs at 2.6Ghz compared to 2.8Ghz. I compare it to that because you can't call it the 8x0 because it has more cache/

So in the end, thats why you would do it, and no matter how slow that extra core runs at, it is free. And anything free is good (or at least better than paying money for the samething).

 

[servermonkey]

I was thinking the same, also that ACC setting in the BIOS setup should be "Auto" by default, right?

on my 9859, disabled, was default
on my 940, disabled, was default

it does funny stuff when it is on my 940 even w/ the asus m3a79t-dlx new bios 0703...

 

[SeanG]

Because AMD is awesome and allows us to clock each core the way we want it. Most apps only use 2 cores and those extra 2 cores go to things like WMP (they don't need to be crazy fast). So if you pick up an extra core, even if you have to down clock it, for absolutely nothing (I mean money wise) then why wouldn't you?

And the $119 for a 710 vs the $190 for a 920 is a pretty huge difference in price. Now your saying, "the 710 wouldn't be a 920!!!". Ok your right it would be a 910 because it runs at 2.6Ghz compared to 2.8Ghz. I compare it to that because you can't call it the 8x0 because it has more cache/

So in the end, thats why you would do it, and no matter how slow that extra core runs at, it is free. And anything free is good (or at least better than paying money for the samething).

The fact is you would still be running a broken 4 core cpu because thats why amd disabled it in the first place.So why bother?

 

[PP Mguire]

I at how many people dont really get the point of why this is so awesome. Maybe its just us old skool guys that come to realize why its so great.

 

[Supreme0verlord]

Sweet! I'll have to try this when I get a 720!

 

[DrPepper]

I at how many people dont really get the point of why this is so awesome. Maybe its just us old skool guys that come to realize why its so great.

I remember my X850pro could have the pipes unlocked but I was too much noob to do it and my sempron could have its cache unlocked with a pencil mod as well or maybe it was more voltage.

 

[SeanG]

Because that is the type of people we are. Remember, this whole site was essentially founding on the idea of unlocking pipelines in video cards in hopes that they aren't damaged. Turning 9500's into 9700's, turning 9800SE's into 9800Pro's, turning x800GTO's into x800XT's. It is this type of thing we live for. We love it when you can get take something cheap and make it perform like something expensive.

And it is much cheaper. If you unlock a 720BE, it essentially becomes a 920BE, which is about $50 more(for a standard 920, not a BE).

And you aren't wasting money, worst case is that it doesn't work, and then you still get what you paid for.

Theres a big difference between unlocking a vid card that was disabled and will run better and unlocking a core on a cpu that was disabled cause it wasnt running right in the first place.If it was going to run right AMD would of sold it to you as a quad core and made $80 more.