TPU's Core i7 Overclocking and Feedback

[Thrackan]

Ok so I said I'd try the push-pull with paired fans right?
idle: 7C off... Load: 6-7C off
I'm now running almost as cool as I did without HT+Turbo on, even if it means a lot of noise

 

[RevengE]

+1 to binge, my i7 is running stock right now I feel
Like I went from a chevy aveo to a Porsche 911 twin turbo. (AMD 9850 to Core i7)

 

[n-ster]

thxs for the input Binge anyone know if these OC well? and are they a better value than thye crucials?

 

[Binge]

I stay away from OCZ's DDR3. For value that OCs, go crucial 1066 1333, or Supertalent 1333.

 

[n-ster]

what is a good oc with the crucials? I want my RAM at least 1600.... how about theses?

 

[Binge]

The thing is that those sticks aren't really rated at 1333. They're tested by Corsair to run at an XMP profile of 1333 which is not the same as a JDEC standard. Most likely those sticks will not overclock well.

Supertalent and Crucial "value" ram is the same sticks they use in higher grade modules up to 1866MHz. The Crucial memory is exactly the same ICs as higher end models, but it is not tested as rigorously as how they will test the Ballistix. As for Supertalent it is memory for overclocking, and they use memory that has gone through rigorous JDEC testing @ 1.5v. At over 1.5v the overclock you can get is really up to luck, but you have great chances with Supertalent.

 

[n-ster]

hmmm.. I see... aren't these the same RAM as Crucials? If so, isn't that a better option because of the heatsinks? Anyways Imana stick with 3gb at 50$ from crucial Why are the 1333 with cas 9 crucials cheaper? aren't they the exact same chips?

Off-topic: Binge, if you know anything about cases etc, can you suggest me a full-tower case? go in my sig and see what I found Your help would be greatly appreciated Oh and maybe for a nice bang/buck GPU... and maybe good case fans?

 

[Binge]

No, they are not the same memory as the crucials. That particular set of GSkill will not overclock beyond it's rating very well. It will run 1600MHz though or less. Those heat spreaders are fine. I hope you get the point here... each company has a different way of marketing and testing their memory, and sometimes they'll go from selling super quality during one generation of memory to being standard or below average in the next generation of memory. The higher end GSkill Pi Blacks will overclock more than the silver ones because the ICs are different. Honestly until you get to 50nm ICs on the ram you won't see a reason to spend a ton of money on these things. That's why I support Crucial and Supertalent right now. GSKill PIs at $99 being your best buy don't fit the company's current agenda. I doubt they would be super awesome memory, but they will hit 1600MHz. The Crucials and Supertalent on the other hand may go 1600 and beyond at cas 8-9 without passing the 1.65V mark because they are a higher standard JDEC.

 

[Thrackan]

If I had the choice right now, I'd get a Crucial 6Gb kit. The 1333 sticks are only 5 bucks more than the 1066 ones here anyway.
Actually, I'm kind of disappointed in my Corsairs atm.

 

[n-ster]

understood IC is for example D9JNL? I'm set on the 50$ crucials then or where can I buy CHEAP Heatspreaders? Is this really good? How bout these?

 

[Thrackan]

Forget heatspreaders, DDR3 doesn't run all that hot since the voltage is way lower.

 

[n-ster]

even if I want to OC to 1600? well then that's good Thrackan... click on my sig and help me out (going home... ttyl in 20 mins xD)

 

[trt740]

People asking about air cooler should check this lga1366 roundup by benchmarkreviews.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=88649

that reviews way off they are measuring socket temp and not core temps read this review and you will see I'm right

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...-120-extreme-1366-rt-cpu-cooler-review-8.html

 

[Binge]

understood IC is for example D9JNL? I'm set on the 50$ crucials then or where can I buy CHEAP Heatspreaders? Is this really good? How bout these?

Forget heatspreaders, DDR3 doesn't run all that hot since the voltage is way lower.

even if I want to OC to 1600? well then that's good Thrackan... click on my sig and help me out (going home... ttyl in 20 mins xD)

IC is Integrated Chip, so yes, D9JNL = IC. You don't want CHEAP heatspreaders because they're more like heat blankets. Really good heat spreaders are $10 each or like $40 for a set. DDR3 DOES need them at higher voltages for longevity & stable overclocks, but they would do better off without them if you bought cheap heatspreaders.

 

[n-ster]

Even at 1.65~1.7V? is the 1st thing I linked (not heatspreaders but memory cooler) better to buy or should I opt for 10$ heatspreaders instead? any D9JNL chips for less than 70$ WITH not cheap heatspreaders? I can<t seem to find good but cheap Heatspreaders >.<

 

[Binge]

Like I said it's impossible to find non-expensive heat solutions for ram.

Enzotech Unicorn Heat Spreaders

Thermalright HR-07

ULTRA Thermal Memory Cooler with Heatpipes

All examples of good heatsinks for ram.

 

[PaulieG]

The thing is that those sticks aren't really rated at 1333. They're tested by Corsair to run at an XMP profile of 1333 which is not the same as a JDEC standard. Most likely those sticks will not overclock well.

Supertalent and Crucial "value" ram is the same sticks they use in higher grade modules up to 1866MHz. The Crucial memory is exactly the same ICs as higher end models, but it is not tested as rigorously as how they will test the Ballistix. As for Supertalent it is memory for overclocking, and they use memory that has gone through rigorous JDEC testing @ 1.5v. At over 1.5v the overclock you can get is really up to luck, but you have great chances with Supertalent.

I'm running the Super Talents right now. I'm testing at 1800mhz.

 

[Binge]

I'm running the Super Talents right now. I'm testing at 1800mhz.

Case and point.

 

[PaulieG]

Here's an inexpensive heatspreader. I'm using them. It's all copper, and the sinks are hardly warm at 1800.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835110105

 

[n-ster]

ty Paulie How much do they cool compared to no HS? oh and they are permanent only apparently gotta watch out if you need to RMA

 

[freaksavior]

I don't know why you copied my spec to the letter, but I'm glad it worked. I really wish people would read more in this thread.

A while ago someone posted that they left something on the bottom of their block. What kind of a block are you using? Water? AIR? 4.4GHz? Well you just tweak it like I had to tweak my settings to get them. I'm no rocket scientist guru but I have a method for problem solving.

It's detailed here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1248090&postcount=2305

One of the first things I mentioned is that everyone who is anyone that overclocks i7 knows that no two i7 CPU are the same. There may be similarities but each one can be tweaked a different way. You could end up being able to get even more stable with different settings, but if you find that yours work with the EXACT same as mine then you're one lucky guy. Congrats.

::EDIT:: I read your specs. Could you post a picture of your water setup?

yes. i'll post pics of it. let me try and oc this new i7

 

[Fitseries3]

i called crucial today....


dont laugh...










i asked if we could get a special batch of black PCB JNL/JNM chipped sticks.









NOPE.

the end.

 

[Binge]

Those bastards. They need to understand that we are their market lol

These just in

 

[Fitseries3]

im not a system builder who sells 10k sticks a year.

 

[Fitseries3]

you get those binge?