Project Cosmos 1000

[douglatins]

personally I would route it like this

http://img.techpowerup.org/090428/tubing3.png

the stuff in pink can be routed in a number of ways, I put the one which gives priority to the NB and VRMs, but whichever you like/looks the best in terms of tubing management...

like this would look better.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090428/tubing4782.png

I have been told that these are too many elements for a single pump/loop, also i personally came to a conclusion that 2 radiators in a loop is not a good idea, since theres a greater loss in pressure from a bigger rad

 

[n0tiert]

I have been told that these are too many elements for a single pump/loop, also i personally came to a conclusion that 2 radiators in a loop is not a good idea, since theres a greater loss in pressure from a bigger rad

so what hint would you give me then ?
add a second pump ?

maybe i check for more posts for a loop/rad setup i mean i have seen many setup in this gallery and not all have 2 pumps 2 rad´s

 

[douglatins]

so what hint would you give me then ?
add a second pump ?

maybe i check for more posts for a loop/rad setup i mean i have seen many setup in this gallery and not all have 2 pumps 2 rad´s

Maybe, but that would increase a lot the money you would be spending, do you really need to WC the mobo? Im trying to fing my thread about WC, will link it here

Here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=91696

PS, I didnt buy anything yet, been waiting for a sidewinder estimate for one week

 

[n0tiert]

Maybe, but that would increase a lot the money you would be spending, do you really need to WC the mobo?

Well another 80 € ain´t the thing since i already spend arround 500 bucks on the wk stuff,
well the pump i have give me 600 liter/h so u say it´s to weak for the complete system ?

 

[douglatins]

Well another 80 € ain´t the thing since i already spend arround 500 bucks on the wk stuff,
well the pump i have give me 600 liter/h so u say it´s to weak for the complete system ?

I wouldnt say the LPH thats good enought, but whats important is the head preassure, that might decrease to a not optimal point, if buying a second pump res is a possibility i would consider the mobo blocks be on the single 120mm rad. But still you should get more information about this, im no expert

 

[phanbuey]

I wouldnt say the LPH thats good enought, but whats important is the head preassure, that might decrease to a not optimal point, if buying a second pump res is a possibility i would consider the mobo blocks be on the single 120mm rad. But still you should get more information about this, im no expert

that is absolutely true. Dual rads are ok because a rad is very low restriction in comparison to blocks etc etc... you can daisy chain rads, and alot of high end builders (digital storm) daisy chain up to 3 rads together. but you have a very good point about the mobo components - they will hurt flowrates.

 

[n0tiert]

I wouldnt say the LPH thats good enought, but whats important is the head preassure, that might decrease to a not optimal point, if buying a second pump res is a possibility i would consider the mobo blocks be on the single 120mm rad. But still you should get more information about this, im no expert

i use a triple and a single rad for the cooling with scythe´s slipstream@1600 88,11 CFM each
i´ll see, maybe i set a loop with a single rad for the mobo a the rest with the triple, also i could set a third single in the bottom of the case lets see what the first run says

 

[WarEagleAU]

Looking good, subscribed!

 

[douglatins]

I myself am looking in a purchase that consist of a quad rad for my gpu and a corei7 that i hopefully will buy sometime. The motherboard cooling i might buy Thermalright HSFs.
(I updated what i'm interested in - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=91696)

But then if you really want a cpu, gpu and mobo WC'ed in one loop, because thats way badass, adding one block for say the NB which is the hottest component would not hurt that much, and then adding a couple of thermalright HSFs would still make it look good and perform best. But thats only if you would stick with one loop.

 

[douglatins]

Ok i have new information, i ran a MartinsFlowEstimator and this is what i came up with:

It seems that pump can handle some pounding, maybe ill bet this over the D5 655 after all

 

[phanbuey]

yeah that is the pump that I have it is stronger than the D5 vario and has a more head pressure.... its nuts. It handles the 3 rads and 3 blocks well... If you want, you can also get the xspc resevoir top to save a bit of space and tubing. youre also prolly NOT gonna use 12 feet of tubing... 8 maybe... 12 is a ton of tubing.

 

[douglatins]

yeah that is the pump that I have it is stronger than the D5 vario and has a more head pressure.... its nuts. It handles the 3 rads and 3 blocks well... If you want, you can also get the xspc resevoir top to save a bit of space and tubing. youre also prolly NOT gonna use 12 feet of tubing... 8 maybe... 12 is a ton of tubing.

Im only worried about its reliability, since i will be importing from a store if one fails i will be without a pc for a long time

I calculated with that XSPC

 

[n0tiert]

i´m using the EK-DDC X-TOP V2 G1/4 for my Laing DDC-1plus T

 

[n0tiert]

Testloop in progress & no leaks (yet)

for the water color i will use Primochill´s Dye Bomb "Blood Red"

 

[phanbuey]

Testloop in progress & no leaks (yet)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2860/p1010084.jpg

for the water color i will use Primochill´s Dye Bomb "Blood Red"

Im thinking about getting that same die bomb!... gonna wait to see how it looks in your loop. Great progress so far, cant wait to see what the temps will be like.

Roughly how long did it take to bleed the loop?

 

[n0tiert]

Im thinking about getting that same die bomb!... gonna wait to see how it looks in your loop. Great progress so far, cant wait to see what the temps will be like.

Roughly how long did it take to bleed the loop?

Where would be the best place to mount the thermalsensor ?
Inside the loop or at the end before it flows back into the rad , i think to meassure real temp would be here then .....

didn´t build the full loop yet, waiting for the last 120 (exhaust) rad will tell ya when done ....
man, that suxx the postman was here on thursday didn´t catch him , friday whe had MAY day (all was closed) they don´t deliver on saturday´s so he comes monday..... damn

 

[n0tiert]

Push or Pull Airflow.....

What would u guys suggest on best Airflow based on these pictures,

and which method to use push or pull.... which gives better result ?

thx

 

[WarEagleAU]

I have mine pushing air on the top, because I Changed the fans around and didnt pay attention while my HAF 932 top fan blows out, and I tell you what, my temps are very nice. I idle on 3.01ghz, around 26C and on load Im about 39C. Not sure if I would have better with straight pull out or straight push, but I like the air blowing across the fins.

 

[phanbuey]

for 1600 RPM scythes pull would be better - especially since those magicools have some decent fins per square inch (FPI).

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

The only problem with pull is that it lowers the radiator and takes up more drive bays ... so maybe push, will work better for that particular combo.

 

[Scrizz]

pull
and pic1

 

[H82LUZ73]

pull
and pic1?

I agrre with pic 1 it is how the cosmos is setup,I have to put my 2 Scythe DFS123812H-3000 fans back in the bottom .I have one pull air in the fan shroud at the bottom then mounted one on the drive gage to blow between my 4870`s .The one in there now is behind the cpu pulling air out.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Oh and yes, Pic 1 is better, less change for heat pockets.

 

[n0tiert]

Some updates for today,

I change the fan´s to pic #1 and mounted the mainboard into the case to meassure the tubes for the pump and reservoir. hopefully the 120 rad comes in tomorrow so i can go over to the cable management and finaly run that sucka

 

[douglatins]

Looking good

 

[kyle2020]

Wow, that looks awesome!

What tubing have you used? some nice tight curves there, nice to see no kinking