steam game or game in cd

[FordGT90Concept]

All valve would have to do is setup a small, low bandwidth server that, the moment you connect to it, it invalidates all installed content. There's nothing, anywhere, to stop them from doing that and that is exactly what they would do if they had to close their doors.

 

[TheMailMan78]

All valve would have to do is setup a small, low bandwidth server that, the moment you connect to it, it invalidates all installed content. There's nothing, anywhere, to stop them from doing that and that is exactly what they would do if they had to close their doors.

How? IM NOT ONLINE!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yes, you are. You couldn't be posting on this thread if you weren't. Besides, how do you know that the games don't already require a yearly check-in to certify the license has not been revoked? Without validation, Steam would refuse to run it.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Yes, you are. You couldn't be posting on this thread if you weren't. Besides, how do you know that the games don't already require a yearly check-in to certify the license has not been revoked? Without recertification, the game will refuse to run.

I'm talking hypothetical. Think about this.....Im not online. I want to play my fav game I bought off steam. I load it up from my back up DVD and play it on my DISCONNECTED computer. You're reaching ford and you know it. Im right!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Even if it didn't do that now, they could easily add it in one of those future, mandatory "Steam platform" updates. The door is wide open to everything I said and you know it. Valve is in charge here, not the consumer.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Even if it didn't do that now, they could easily add it in one of those future "Steam platform" updates. The door is wide open to everything I said and you know it. Valve is in charge here, not the consumer.

How can they change the content on my disk?! Hmmmm? Steam is also backed up. The version I know works off line? I win

 

[cadaveca]

Simple...after 30 days, offline mode ceases to work. Steam knows when you logged in last, and no, changing your system's clock will not have any effect.

 

[Bundy]

I prefer steam. IMO the risks associated with its failure are minimal compared to the benefits. I love the weekend deals, auto updates and not picking up scratched disks that the kids walked on.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Simple...after 30 days, offline mode ceases to work.

How? Tell me? HOW?!

 

[cadaveca]

You logged in at such and such a time. 30 days later, it deactivates.

I have many friends who work on oilrigs, they have many complaints about getting cut off, as most are gone for 6+ weeks at a time.

I own ALOT of games on STEAM. It's no issue to get around the DRM, if need be, but I don`t mind them monitoring my gaming habits, nor do I feel insecure about my purchases.

 

[TheMailMan78]

You logged in at such and such a time. 30 days later, it deactivates.

I have many friends who work on oilrigs, they have many complaints about getting cut off, as most are gone for 6+ weeks at a time.

Steam doesnt cut you off after 30 days offline. That would need an update to be online. Read the last page up until now.

 

[cadaveca]

No, it wouldnt.`the data needed is already there...when you start STEAM without an connection, it goes to offline mode. That mode is valid for 720 hours only.

I`ve read the whole thread, and I also have encountered this myself.


Please go educate yourself on the issue via the STEAM forums...all the info is there.

 

[TheMailMan78]

No, it wouldn't.`the data needed is already there...when you start STEAM without an connection, it goes to offline mode. That mode is valid for 720 hours only.

But thats now how steam works. Offline mode currently is indefinite.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Steam doesnt cut you off after 30 days offline. That would need an update to be online. Read the last page up until now.

No, if the code is already there to only authorize a game for 30 days, which cadaveca confirmed is already in place, if Steam goes down for 30 games, you legally have no means to play the game anymore without circumventing their DRM.

Offline mode means Steam won't connect to their servers. It doesn't mean each individual game license isn't counting down their 30 days. I'm sure that, even in "offline mode" it will still update the licenses without user consent because it is a critical "keep-alive" function.

Until recently (Spore, for example), CD installs never had to phone home.

 

[TheMailMan78]

No, if the code is already there to only authorize a game for 30 days, which cadaveca confirmed is already in place, if Steam goes down for 30 games, you legally have no means to play the game anymore without circumventing their DRM, just like a CD.

Until recently (Spore, for example), CD installs never had to phone home.

How the hell did he confirm it? He used an example of friends on oil rigs.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Disconnect your computer from the Internet (phsyically--no wifi or NIC) for 31 days and see if any of your games work.

 

[cadaveca]

...which I did.

Here`s the error you get:

Steam_RefreshLogin_InfoTicketExpired Your steam ticket has expired.\nPlease re-enter your password to continue.

 

[TheMailMan78]

...which I did.

Here`s the error you get:

That has nothing to do with any magical 30 day validation. Ive got that too. Heres a fix.

Certain Steam issues may be corrected by renaming the ClientRegistry.blob and restarting Steam.

This file is located in the directory: C:\Program Files\Steam (or whichever directory you specified during installation).

Completely exit from Steam, then rename this file to ClientRegistryOld.blob.

Restart Steam to allow this file to be recreated and test the issue you have seen.

 

[cadaveca]

LoL...argue all you want man, I've not the energy for it. deleting the client registry will bork offline mode too.

FYI, you also delete this file to get a different download server, if yours is currently busy....I've been using STEAM since Beta.

 

[TheMailMan78]

LoL...argue all you want man, I've not the energy for it. deleting the client registry will bork offline mode too.

FYI, you also delete this file to get a different download server, if yours is currently busy....I've been using STEAM since Beta.

Good for you. However you also claim you were responsible for the AMD TWKR chip so excuse me if I dont belive you. Anyway the bottom line is you have provided no proof.

 

[cadaveca]

http://boards.ign.com/pc_general_board/b5027/187394265/p1/?9

STEAM offline mode can only be activated properly when online. This info is stored...guess where...in the client registry.blob. This info is checked when steam starts...

In regards to the TWKR, please get an AMD official to deny my claim.

 

[TheMailMan78]

http://boards.ign.com/pc_general_board/b5027/187394265/p1/?9

And?

 

[cadaveca]

Listen, dude, you seem to be taking this a bit seriously here, and really I could care less...I'm jsut relating the info as I know it...

read my sig, I make no claims to being right 100% of the time, but I do try my best to help out. As such, I only relte thigns that I know as truth...but I am not infalliable. The only way you'll accept how STEAM wiorks is to contact Valve themselves...why don't you send Gabe an email...he does tend to respond.

 

[TheMailMan78]

http://boards.ign.com/pc_general_board/b5027/187394265/p1/?9

STEAM offline mode can only be activated properly when online. This info is stored...guess where...in the client registry.blob. This info is checked when steam starts...

In regards to the TWKR, please get an AMD official to deny my claim.

I invented Windows. Get Bill Gates to deny my claim.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Seriously man, the point we are trying to make is that Valve is no saint (a greedy, money-driven corporation like the rest). They hold the right to shut Steam down entirely and if they do, you're screwed out of all the games you purchased through that service. It really is no more complex than that.