Corsair Shatters SSD Affordability Barrier

[TVman]

32GB for 69.99 is still a pretty bad, atleast they are trying

 

[Completely Bonkers]

-> after mail-in rebate

So in other words, those of us living outside of the US of A will have to pay a lot more, great...

Couldnt agree more. Someone in the US tell me all about mail-in rebates. What is the scam? The cost of processing and the time wasted is just silly nonsense. Is it a marketing trick? Is to an accounts window-dressing trick to make sales look bigger? Is it based on the fact that 50% of people dont bother with the mail-in rebate coupon, therefore they can advertise a low price but actually get a higher price on average? Is it a cashflow scam? Take the money now, but give some money back in 3 months? Is it a grey-market roadblock; only eligible if you live in the US, therefore screw canadians, mexicans, and the rest of the world?

Really, someone tell me why and how the economics of mail-in rebates.

 

[Disparia]

“The 32GB Nova Series SSD is great for streamlined boot drives, netbook upgrades, and even RAID configurations,” stated Jim Carlton, VP of Marketing at Corsair. “The aggressive pricing of these drives makes the benefits of SSDs accessible to everyone.”

Mention RAID and the rebate can only be used once per household? Go eat a bag of hell!

 

[buggalugs]

. For everything else, there is absolutely no difference worth mentioning.

LOL, You obviously havent tried one.

 

[kyle2020]

$70, or £100+ once it gets here.

 

[Mussels]

Such small SSD's just for system drive IS useless. Do you ppl reboot system so often that it makes whatever sense? My system boots in under 1 minute and i put it to Hybrid Sleep most of the time.
It takes 5 seconds to start system from that. For everything else, there is absolutely no difference worth mentioning.

you're just thinking desktop, arent you?

 

[RejZoR]

I had Intel 80GB and Kingston 128GB. For desktop, completelly useless. For system drive you don't need it. For anything else it's too small. For notebooks, most have just 1 slot and again, the drives are just too small. Even for netbook that i had. 32GB, you can't store anything useful on it.
Unless you use it for browsing and mail only. And some music. But then again, for not that much more you can get Seagate Momentus (and XT) drives that are really fast and offer capacity of 500GB.

 

[zAAm]

Or do the opposite and break the Unaffordable barrier by making SSDs over 2 grand

Personally I think 32GB is a tad small for everything you'd want to store on an OS drive (my Windows 7 and basic programs weigh in at around 34GB), but RAID0 two of them together and you'll probably be fine. Also, what people tend to forget is that the strong point of SSD's is they have excellent small file transfer rates (and latencies). This is what speeds up the OS - which tends to write thousands of smaller files instead of huge chunks of data.

Also, I've never understood the whole "mail-in rebate" system? Why? I'm pretty sure America is the only place where they dreamed up this thing. Ok, we'll give you a discount, not immediately so you can avoid having to pay the entire amount, but you can send us some form by post and we'll give it back in a week or something...? Now THAT'S convenient.

EDIT:

Couldnt agree more. Someone in the US tell me all about mail-in rebates. What is the scam? The cost of processing and the time wasted is just silly nonsense. Is it a marketing trick? Is to an accounts window-dressing trick to make sales look bigger? Is it based on the fact that 50% of people dont bother with the mail-in rebate coupon, therefore they can advertise a low price but actually get a higher price on average? Is it a cashflow scam? Take the money now, but give some money back in 3 months? Is it a grey-market roadblock; only eligible if you live in the US, therefore screw canadians, mexicans, and the rest of the world?

Really, someone tell me why and how the economics of mail-in rebates.

I missed your post, but have the exact same sentiment!

 

[Mussels]

Personally I think 32GB is a tad small for everything you'd want to store on an OS drive (my Windows 7 and basic programs weigh in at around 34GB), but RAID0 two of them together and you'll probably be fine. Also, what people tend to forget is that the strong point of SSD's is they have excellent small file transfer rates (and latencies). This is what speeds up the OS - which tends to write thousands of smaller files instead of huge chunks of data.

Also, I've never understood the whole "mail-in rebate" system? Why? I'm pretty sure America is the only place where they dreamed up this thing. Ok, we'll give you a discount, not immediately so you can avoid having to pay the entire amount, but you can send us some form by post and we'll give it back in a week or something...? Now THAT'S convenient.

EDIT:


I missed your post, but have the exact same sentiment!

My win 7 + all installed programs is also 34GB, but thats with an 8GB hibernate file and the page file on the C: drive. i could easily free up 10GB, and move the my documents folder to a mechanical drive to save even more space.

 

[zAAm]

My win 7 + all installed programs is also 34GB, but thats with an 8GB hibernate file and the page file on the C: drive. i could easily free up 10GB, and move the my documents folder to a mechanical drive to save even more space.

I'm not saying you couldn't, but it will not necessarily live up to your expectations. My 34GB is just my Windows folder and both Program Files directories, but I guess I could move some of my programs to another drive - although that is likely exactly what you DON'T want to do. I suspect a normal user will be fine using a 32GB SSD, but I'm not a normal user. Which also begs the question of why a normal user would NEED an SSD...

I do see a number of uses (a cheap car pc with linux immediately came to mind), but I stand by my statement that you'll probably be better off with something like 64GB - or in this case 2 of them in RAID0.

 

[Taskforce]

Wow some a you guys sound like suckers saying 32GB for $69 after MIR is a deal.

 

[Mussels]

Wow some a you guys sound like suckers saying 32GB for $69 after MIR is a deal.

find me some SSD's cheaper, kthx.

 

[Frick]

It is pretty cheap, but 30GB is too little imo. For a netbook or something it would work nice though.

 

[Kreij]

Really, someone tell me why and how the economics of mail-in rebates.

Retailers use mail-in rebates because it makes the price of their product look extremely competetive, and about 80% of the people who purchase the product either...
A) Don't bother to send in the rebate.
B) Forget to send in the rebate.
C) Fail to follow the rules of the rebate (sometimes quite obnoxious) and are denied the rebate.

Meaning they are selling more product at the normal price, and only taking the rebate hit on about 20% of the rebated items sold. Not to mention that they can take however long they want to send the rebate, so they are making interest on your money until the send the rebate check and you actually cash it.

Pretty lucrative actually.

 

[PVTCaboose1337]

I am getting this for my netbook. I have a 160gb drive and I think this would be a good upgrade for it. Very cheap! I cannot wait till I get one for my desktop!

 

[scaminatrix]

These would be PERFECT for an AV editing rig...
One for your pagefile, one for your save files, etc. Where performance is important but space is not.
I've been trying to get a small HDD for just my pagefile, with maximum performance, low cost and small size. The best I've found is the WDC Black 640GB SATA3 6GB/s (about £55). 640GB is TOO big for just a pagefile.
This Corsair Drive's looking like a good choice for some people...

 

[RejZoR]

I am getting this for my netbook. I have a 160gb drive and I think this would be a good upgrade for it. Very cheap! I cannot wait till I get one for my desktop!

Cheap but useless. I had 80GB and 120GB SSD drives for my netbook and they both filled pretty fast. The speed was not all that better at all. There was a heat and noise improvement (and slight battery), but apart from that, nothing else.
Seagate Momentus 500GB is just as fast. I'll use SSD for sure when they make 512GB version for 200 EUR. Until then, not for sure.

These would be PERFECT for an AV editing rig...
One for your pagefile, one for your save files, etc. Where performance is important but space is not.
I've been trying to get a small HDD for just my pagefile, with maximum performance, low cost and small size. The best I've found is the WDC Black 640GB SATA3 6GB/s (about £55). 640GB is TOO big for just a pagefile.
This Corsair Drive's looking like a good choice for some people...

Ever thought of going the "more RAM" bandwagon instead of buying dedicated HDD/SSD's for slow and useless pagefile? You can have the fastest array of SSD drives in RAID and they'll never be as fast as the slowest DDR1 RAM from 5 years ago. Remember that.

 

[Baum]

if it would be a rebate every where and not only us :-(

me want 32Gb for 80€>....

 

[scaminatrix]

Ever thought of going the "more RAM" bandwagon instead of buying dedicated HDD/SSD's for slow and useless pagefile? You can have the fastest array of SSD drives in RAID and they'll never be as fast as the slowest DDR1 RAM from 5 years ago. Remember that.

I don't use RAID on my PC, I'd just get 2/3 of these drives, and one HDD for the save files.
Just a few of these (not in RAID) would be perfect in certain situations (like mine - budget!), where AFAIK enough RAM to avoid a pagefile is not an option.
But, I'm not an expert. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't know you could avoid using a pagefile when editng HD videos (whether or not using RAID)?
Like I said, only perfect in CERTAIN stuations, not for everyone

 

[RejZoR]

Well, if you have more RAM, the OS doesn't need to use pagefile because it can do stuff inside super quick RAM. If you're working with videos professionally, it's worth investing into a i don't know, 12GB or 16GB system backed up with 2x 2TB drives in RAID for speed.
This way you'd have:
a) loads of working memory
b) still quick access to HDD's
c) 4TB of working soace to store massive HD videos
d) all this to be relatively affordable compared to just buying super expensive SSD

I can't deny it, it's a step into the right direction, but it's still just not the time for mass usage of SSD's. When we'll be able to buy 256GB SSD for around 200 EUR, i think it will become more logical. They will still be expensive but would make more sense. The space is semi acceptable, the price is acceptable as well and the speed would be over 200MB/s for sure. At the moment, we are like half way there really. If everything goes well, one more year. I wanted to say 6 months, but if the current trend continues, 1 year makes more sense.

 

[scaminatrix]

Well, if you have more RAM, the OS doesn't need to use pagefile because it can do stuff inside super quick RAM. If you're working with videos professionally, it's worth investing into a i don't know, 12GB or 16GB system backed up with 2x 2TB drives in RAID for speed.
This way you'd have:
a) loads of working memory
b) still quick access to HDD's
c) 4TB of working soace to store massive HD videos
d) all this to be relatively affordable compared to just buying super expensive SSD

No, I'm not doing it professionally, that's where our wires are crossing... I'm talking about being on a proper budget.
Can you edit HD videos without a pagefile? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can't? And 12 - 16 GB of RAM for me is too expensive anyway!
I know RAID is best, but I don't need it, even with HD video editing. I've got everything running perfect without it.
I only work on 2 videos at a time max (only a hobby) so don't need 4TB for anything. 3 of these would be cheaper than 12GB of DDR3 (what I'm running, in sig).
Don't want to hijack this thread, just stating reasons why these SSD's would be great for some people.

 

[Shyska]

Can you edit HD videos without a pagefile? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can't? And 12 - 16 GB of RAM for me is too expensive anyway!

You can do without pagefile. But you need loads of RAM.
As for prices - RAM is ~500.000 times faster than SSD, so you can do the maths to figure how much SSD should be lower in price to compete

At the end, no matter what you buy for a pagefile it is a total waste. Always.

 

[lemonadesoda]

32GB is more than enough for ALL corporate laptops that SHOULDNT have data on them anyway, but store the data safely and securely locked up on the corporate server.

That goes for most small businesses and SOHO too were the laptop is the SECOND machine; with a desktop or NAS holding key data.

IMO it's fine for netbooks too. They are supposed to be "cheap" and also semi-disposable. Keep your important data on a NAS or keystick.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Such a shame these wont be no were near $70 in the uk.

 

[Thrackan]

Still well over $2/GB, and after MIR. This isn't "shattering" anything by a long shot.