The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

Mussels · Jun 22, 2010

AphexDreamer said:
Question?

Would RAM at 1333 (777) be better or equal to 1600 (999) which would be better for overclocking?

I read this, but it didn't really help answer which one to use.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-ii-ddr3,2319.html

IMO, the speed difference wouldnt be noticeable at all. The 1600MHz would be better for OCing, because you can set it to 1333 and then OC away until it reaches 1600 again.

AphexDreamer · Jun 22, 2010

Mussels said:
IMO, the speed difference wouldnt be noticeable at all. The 1600MHz would be better for OCing, because you can set it to 1333 and then OC away until it reaches 1600 again.

so you recommend using the FSB to overclock rather than the Multi?

I was thinking of setting my RAM to 1600 then maybe raising the FSB to get it to 1800 at least. Would that be a good idea?

Mussels · Jun 22, 2010

AphexDreamer said:
so you recommend using the FSB to overclock rather than the Multi?

I was thinking of setting my RAM to 1600 then maybe raising the FSB to get it to 1800 at least. Would that be a good idea?

with a BE it hardly matters, but regardless, it makes FSB OCing easier should you want to.

AphexDreamer · Jun 22, 2010

Mussels said:
with a BE it hardly matters, but regardless, it makes FSB OCing easier should you want to.

Right.

Also what would be the the max volts for CPU and RAM that I should not cross? I plan on taking this thing past 4ghz, but I don't want to fry it. I've been out of the loop since the 9850 came out.

I'll be doing my research but any advice you can provide to aid me in my OC attempts would be more than welcomed.

Mussels · Jun 22, 2010

AphexDreamer said:
Right.

Also what would be the the max volts for CPU and RAM that I should not cross? I plan on taking this thing past 4ghz, but I don't want to fry it. I've been out of the loop since the 9850 came out. I'll be doing my research but any advice you can provide to aid me in my OC attempts would be more than welcomed.

couldnt tell ya, i'm on my first AMD chip in ages, so i only know it (thuban) specifically.

AphexDreamer · Jun 22, 2010

Mussels said:
couldnt tell ya, i'm on my first AMD chip in ages, so i only know it (thuban) specifically.

Alrighty then, you've been enough help. Maybe someone else will read my post and better assist me. For now I'm going to test my RAM at 1800.

cdawall · Jun 22, 2010

AphexDreamer said:
so you recommend using the FSB to overclock rather than the Multi?

I was thinking of setting my RAM to 1600 then maybe raising the FSB to get it to 1800 at least. Would that be a good idea?

213X21 is were i leave mine just play around and find what works best for what you have

AphexDreamer · Jun 22, 2010

cdawall said:
213X21 is were i leave mine just play around and find what works best for what you have

Whats your voltage set to?

mastrdrver · Jun 22, 2010

How good is the cpu-nb part of your 965?

I found that running 7-7-7-21 1T that 2600-2800 is really needed to take full advantage of the memory. With that, 3600 to 3800 core speed is needed.

erocker · Jun 22, 2010

Aphex what voltage is your RAM currently at? As MastrDrver stated you will need to increase your NB speed. Once you find out what that can run at, you can then decide on what to set your RAM at.

Chicken Patty · Jun 22, 2010

Got my X6 today, so far running it at stocks, I haven't had a chance to fiddle with it. Love seeing six cores in the Task Manager though

mastrdrver · Jun 22, 2010

erocker said:
Aphex what voltage is your RAM currently at? As MastrDrver stated you will need to increase your NB speed. Once you find out what that can run at, you can then decide on what to set your RAM at.

That was one thing about that THW article is they never increased cpu-nb speed. Once you do that, you'll find that the speeds they tested at start to separate themselves out a little more.

Mussels · Jun 22, 2010

Chicken Patty said:
Got my X6 today, so far running it at stocks, I haven't had a chance to fiddle with it. Love seeing six cores in the Task Manager though

i'm the same. i easily had it running at 3.6Ghz all the time, but i put it back to stock since i'm still on the 785G matx board til tomorrow. (feck reinstalling, the AMD AHCI drivers should be compatible for an easy swapover)

mastrdrver said:
That was one thing about that THW article is they never increased cpu-nb speed. Once you do that, you'll find that the speeds they tested at start to separate themselves out a little more.

yeah, from what i gleaned from various articles about PII's and memory, once you hit 1600Mhz its diminishing gains. even if you do raise CPU-NB clocks, you're getting less and less performance gains as you raise it up.

1600MHz CL7 seems to be around the sweet spot (or within OCing distance of it), which is why i went for that

TheMailMan78 · Jun 22, 2010

Chicken Patty said:
Got my X6 today, so far running it at stocks, I haven't had a chance to fiddle with it. Love seeing six cores in the Task Manager though

My board has crappy power distribution so I need high volts to be stable. With that said I am 100% stable at 3.91GHz with 1.47v. I'm old school when I say stable also. Hours worth of OCCT and Prime 95.

However if you are a little more daring I will tell you my system boots and runs great at 4GHz but is only stable about 30 to 45 min in OCCT. I bet with a better board you would be fine.

Chicken Patty · Jun 22, 2010

Mussels said:
i'm the same. i easily had it running at 3.6Ghz all the time, but i put it back to stock since i'm still on the 785G matx board til tomorrow. (feck reinstalling, the AMD AHCI drivers should be compatible for an easy swapover)

I like running my main rig at default clocks. It's so quick the way it is anyways that overclocking is just kinda pointless. Anyhow, I'll see if I have some time today to play around with it.

TheMailMan78 said:
My board has crappy power distribution so I need high volts to be stable. With that said I am 100% stable at 3.91GHz with 1.47v. I'm old school when I say stable also. Hours worth of OCCT and Prime 95.

However if you are a little more daring I will tell you my system boots and runs great at 4GHz but is only stable about 30 to 45 min in OCCT. I bet with a better board you would be fine.

When Paul had this CPU I think he got it prime stable to 4.3 GHz. I'll have to see what temps allow and what I can get out of it.

cdawall · Jun 22, 2010

AphexDreamer said:
Whats your voltage set to?

1.565v in the bios 1.54v real

Catalyst · Jun 28, 2010

Looks like I'll be joining the club aswell then

No, it won't go higher than that, I've tried several times.

brandonwh64 · Jun 28, 2010

Catalyst said:
Looks like I'll be joining the club aswell then

http://img.idioti.nu/images/capturefyf.png

No, it won't go higher than that, I've tried several times.

Ive got one of those x3 720s as well! mine unlocked pretty good. ive got it up to 3.8ghz stable as a quad but the heat was unbearable in my HTPC case

AphexDreamer · Jun 28, 2010

Catalyst said:
Looks like I'll be joining the club aswell then

http://img.idioti.nu/images/capturefyf.png

No, it won't go higher than that, I've tried several times.

Awesome! Have you tried unlocking it?

Catalyst · Jun 28, 2010

AphexDreamer said:
Awesome! Have you tried unlocking it?

Yes, tried ACC on Auto, All Cores and Per Core.

Funny thing tho, while in BIOS and setting "Per Core" on, I can actually see and change options for 4 independent cores, but in Windows I only see three in Task Manager and CPU-Z.

Weird.

brandonwh64 · Jun 28, 2010

Catalyst said:
Yes, tried ACC on Auto, All Cores and Per Core.

Funny thing tho, while in BIOS and setting "Per Core" on, I can actually see and change options for 4 independent cores, but in Windows I only see three in Task Manager and CPU-Z.

Weird.

Hmm that sucks!

mastrdrver · Jun 29, 2010

Doesn't Asus have another option you have to select to unlock cores? Something like unleash mode?

I don't know if you tried but I think that needs to be enabled if it wasn't.

Chicken Patty · Jun 29, 2010

I haven't installed the board yet, but I've been reading up on the CH IV and it's got me scared of it with all these new features. They have me puzzled

eidairaman1 · Jun 29, 2010

the mighty overclocker afraid!? Are you having a fever CP?

Whats funny is Asus Announced the Crosshair IV Extreme and has yet to release it. WTF ASUS!!!

otherwords hows the AsROCK and GA boards?

Chicken Patty · Jun 29, 2010

eidairaman1 said:
the mighty overclocker afraid!? Are you having a fever CP?

Whats funny is Asus Announced the Crosshair IV Extreme and has yet to release it. WTF ASUS!!!

otherwords hows the AsROCK and GA boards?

GA is which board?

No I don't have a fever, I'm just like :wtf:

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The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

Mussels

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AphexDreamer

Mussels

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AphexDreamer

Mussels

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AphexDreamer

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

AphexDreamer

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TheMailMan78

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cdawall

where the hell are my stars

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Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!

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Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!

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