The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[Magikherbs]

Ive noticed here latly that this thread has become more about overclocking RAM than Phenom IIs LOLz

I call it a ram cooler but it mainly there to cool my cpu. It deflects the heat coming up from my gpu. My top 140mm and rear 120mm exhaust fans work tooo well ! hehe

 

[de.das.dude]

hey magikherbs, were you successful in getting the new AMD HSF??

 

[de.das.dude]

effing awesome!
congrats. did you have to pay the shipping?

you must have returned the previous one.

when will the RMA site reply to my warranty service request?

 

[Velvet Wafer]

Magik,i would not call it skimping, most people throw away stock coolers either way, or at least, let them rot in the closet....in my opinion, these things are hardly useable for more if you buy a proc worth several hundred $, you shouldnt skimp on buying a better cooler yourself.

i used this cooler you pictured, on an old 65nm X2 5000+, and it had only mediocre temps. (was supplied with my 955, but i had water and laughed at it)
And i would never use a quad or more, with a stock cooler, no matter what manufacturer made it

 

[de.das.dude]

second RMA was in the indian one.
when am i supposed to call the 800 number??
i only got an email giving me my ticket number.

 

[Magikherbs]

Magik,i would not call it skimping, most people throw away stock coolers either way, or at least, let them rot in the closet....in my opinion, these things are hardly useable for more if you buy a proc worth several hundred $, you shouldnt skimp on buying a better cooler yourself.

i used this cooler you pictured, on an old 65nm X2 5000+, and it had only mediocre temps. (was supplied with my 955, but i had water and laughed at it)
And i would never use a quad or more, with a stock cooler, no matter what manufacturer made it

As far as I know, some or many of the early AM3 chips were shipped with the plain aluminum coolers. So it understandable why people wouldn't use them. This bad reputation helped discourage the use of the new model HSF aswell. And in part, could explain the loss in public confidence and market share Amd has sufferd over the years.
The average consumer will not monitor temps and , nor will they find out for themselves, why the system crashed. They mostly assume that Amd sucks and buy Intel. It also shows how 'disposable' people are. The, "Meh ! Ill just buy a new one !", attidude sucks lol. I say, most of those people would still be running Amd had the HSF had some copper in the design.

How much hotter would a Phenom II x4 or x6, 125-140 watt chip get ? My 550be runs on only 80 watts in comparison.

What do you mean by mediocre? Do you think my temps are to high? hehe

I used to have the same Athlon cpu, for about 19 months.. eheh.. first ever dual core..

 

[Velvet Wafer]

As far as I know, some or many of the early AM3 chips were shipped with the plain aluminum coolers. So it understandable why people wouldn't use them. This bad reputation helped discourage the use of the new model HSF aswell. And in part, could explain the loss in public confidence and market share Amd has sufferd over the years.
The average consumer will not monitor temps and , nor will they find out for themselves, why the system crashed. They mostly assume that Amd sucks and buy Intel. It also shows how 'disposable' people are. The, "Meh ! Ill just buy a new one !", attidude sucks lol. I say, most of those people would still be running Amd had the HSF had some copper in the design.

How much hotter would a Phenom II x4 or x6, 125-140 watt chip get ? My 550be runs on only 80 watts in comparison.

What do you mean by mediocre? Do you think my temps are to high? hehe

I used to have the same Athlon cpu, for about 19 months.. eheh.. first ever dual core..

No matter if Intel or AMD, Stock coolers are shitty... if you have an Phenom 2 at 65c+ and crashing, or an i7 at 95c+ crashing... doesnt really matter,does it?
Believe me, Stock coolers are totally negligible. No one gets a win, and no one gets a loss, when a proc with a shitty cooler is brought to the market... both AMD and Intel design their coolers in a way, they cant keep up with 125w+, so its a win for both, and a win for the manufacturers of aftermarket cooling, that naturally wouldnt seel a wet fart, if stock coolers would do their job like they should be.

The main reason, why Intel has more customers:
you ever saw an AMD spot in the TV, or in the Kino... any advertising, in any public place?
Intel pays a whole shitload of money for their propaganda machinery, including Games,Magazines, Television and Advertising-Columns!
The money, that AMD uses for anything useful, and if it were, to make its procs cheaper

any quadcore can cross the 60ies with ease on so weak coolers, and that is not recommended... about 65 should be the max, the Proc should receive.

mediocre, for my old X2 were about 55-58c, during full load... and voltage was !stock! 1.35v

yeah, i also remember owning my first X2, and that things really rocked, when the 3870 just came out

EDIT: one tip: buy yourself a coolit eco or corsair h5o, if you one day plan to go quad.
these things pack a real punch for their price

 

[de.das.dude]

When you login to Amd support, the number should be on one of those pages.
Read my msgs, past quotes and what the RMA site says.. carefully. Its not that tough to figure out.

you only said about getting the ticket number from the 800 number on the RMA page?

i got that in this email.



and this is the tel:
India*
Tel: 000-8000016193 (English Only)
Monday - Friday: 06:30 - 14:30 IST
Email Web Form (English Only)
Warranty Claim Form: Download

 

[de.das.dude]

I got iiiiiiit!!!!!

 

[Exile_Chavez]

Gots me an AMD Phenom II X4 955, and a MSI 770-C45

I am oced up to 3.55ghz right now, first day ocing, so plz dont be harsh on me

 

[fullinfusion]

Gots me an AMD Phenom II X4 955, and a MSI 770-C45

I am oced up to 3.55ghz right now, first day ocing, so plz dont be harsh on me

3.55Ghz is straight outta the box isn't it?
Haha.. good going and post some screen shots of your clocks

And good luck with the high clocks

 

[Exile_Chavez]

3.55Ghz is straight outta the box isn't it?
Haha.. good going and post some screen shots of your clocks

And good luck with the high clocks

here are some screenshots of cpu-z:

Its running stable at that speed, with temps going from 32c idle, up to 49ceekWell, im paranoid at hitting up that high around 50c)), ran Prime95 stable, and I am about to run some more to make sure its cool

 

[fullinfusion]

here are some screenshots of cpu-z:

Its running stable at that speed, with temps going from 32c idle, up to 49ceekWell, im paranoid at hitting up that high around 50c)), ran Prime95 stable, and I am about to run some more to make sure its cool

Nice low volts... and dont worrie about the temps till they hit 62c

 

[Exile_Chavez]

I am thinking about boosting the volts a little, like up 1 level, because when I scroll along large files and documents it lags a bit. And then Ill bring it up to 3.6ghz with that. Well brb getting to 3.6

 

[erocker]

Stock voltage is 1.4v regardless of what you motherboard sets it at. Put it at 1.4v and you will be stable at that speed. You should use a stress testing program like OCCT or Prime95 to make sure things are stable.

 

[Chicken Patty]

If temps allow, you can run up to 1.5-1.55v safely on these things. So let it rip!

By the way, Brad (fullinfusion) put 1.8v on a voltathon between him and another member (cdawall) so trust me 1.5v as I suggested is safe as long as your temps allow.

 

[mastrdrver]

What does the default vcore vid for the chip, 1.40?

 

[Chicken Patty]

What does the default vcore vid for the chip, 1.40?

I believe it's 1.4v or 1.392v to be exact.

 

[mastrdrver]

With 1.40v default on a C3 you might as well just jump to 3.8ghz. Should be stable or close.

I don't know about C3s but I've got a 550BE that defaults to 1.35v. I think default is lower than that but idk for sure.

 

[Chicken Patty]

With 1.40v default on a C3 you might as well just jump to 3.8ghz. Should be stable or close.

I don't know about C3s but I've got a 550BE that defaults to 1.35v. I think default is lower than that but idk for sure.

He should be able to get 3.8 GHz stable at 1.4v, most people do, but you know that depends on a ton of things.

 

[Mussels]

He should be able to get 3.8 GHz stable at 1.4v, most people do, but you know that depends on a ton of things.

mine needed 1.45v, but i had NB/HT etc voltages at default. raising them may have allowed me to lower CPU volts.

 

[Chicken Patty]

mine needed 1.45v, but i had NB/HT etc voltages at default. raising them may have allowed me to lower CPU volts.

True, I ran my NB at 2.6GHz so I had my NB voltages up a bit too thus probably allowing for more stability at lower CPU voltage. It's been a while since I overclocked, I really need to get my CPU under water and get some overclockin' done!

 

[Exile_Chavez]

Stock voltage is 1.4v regardless of what you motherboard sets it at. Put it at 1.4v and you will be stable at that speed. You should use a stress testing program like OCCT or Prime95 to make sure things are stable.

I tested with prime95, I am now stable completely with an 8% clock boost up to 3.63ghz. Temps are right where I want them, low 30s and not over 50. So its all good. I doubt I will ever go any higher, without water cooling which is expensive and dangerous.

I know these chips are rated up to 62c, but something in my instincts says to not go over 50c if I can avoid it. What I might do to drop my temps even lower, is change my exhaust rear fan to an intake, and Ill have 3 intakes at that point with 0 outs(Excluding my PSU out fan), is that a bad thing?

 

[de.das.dude]

Gots me an AMD Phenom II X4 955, and a MSI 770-C45

I am oced up to 3.55ghz right now, first day ocing, so plz dont be harsh on me

if i aint wrong this 955 can go all the way to 4GHz!

 

[fullinfusion]

If temps allow, you can run up to 1.5-1.55v safely on these things. So let it rip!

By the way, Brad (fullinfusion) put 1.8v on a voltathon between him and another member (cdawall) so trust me 1.5v as I suggested is safe as long as your temps allow.

Cd is a wall bro! I sent him Erockers Trident sticks and never heard back from him. plus a while back I recall He chickin shitted outta volts against me, All is because of your free rad you gave to me lol. Im @ 4.5Ghz idling @ 22c and maxin out at 43c