• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AMD Rebranding HD 5770 and HD 5750 to HD 6700 Series

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,241 (7.55/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Earlier today, we were treated to the first picture of the Radeon HD 6870, a new and upcoming performance graphics card from AMD. It was also learned that the HD 6870 is based on a new GPU codenamed "Barts", which is intended to be a successor to the previous-generation "Juniper" GPU, which was at the center of the Radeon HD 5700 desktop and Mobility HD 5800 series. That left some uncertainty as to what GPU was going to drive the sub-$199 HD 6700 series. AMD may have found an answer, rebranding.

AMD seems to have been on the crossroads of which naming scheme to adopt. The first scheme based on conventional logic tells users that Barts-based SKUs should sit in the HD 6700 series, and Cayman-based single-GPU SKUs in the HD 6800; while the second scheme promotes Barts to the HD 6800 series, and Cayman to the HD 6900 series, pushing the low-volume, high-end Antilles (dual-Cayman) graphics card to the HD 6990 SKU. Evidently, AMD chose the newer, second scheme. The only rationale that makes sense is that the x800 series seems to be very popular, and if Barts, with its radically redesigned SIMD components can perform on par or better than the HD 5800 series SKUs, that's enough to justify its upwards push.



Since the new performance SKU will be labeled HD 6800 series, that leaves some vacuum with the HD 6700 series. The solution to this came in the form of a perceptually bad practice of rebranding Juniper-based SKUs to HD 6700 series. There is a possibility of AMD stepping up clock speeds, or adding software features to the HD 6700 series, but that's as far as we can see the Juniper going. "Turks" and "Caicos" are new GPUs, that trail behind in the HD 6600, HD 6500, and HD 6400 Series, respectively.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Last edited:

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,241 (7.55/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
There's a famous Hindi proverb "Is hamaam mein sab nange hain" meaning "everyone's naked in this bathroom".

(everyone's equally full of s*** in business)
 

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
13,051 (2.39/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
Shame on you AMD..... :shadedshu
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
4,931 (0.74/day)
Location
Hong Kong
Processor Core i7-12700k
Motherboard Z690 Aero G D4
Cooling Custom loop water, 3x 420 Rad
Video Card(s) RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming
Storage Plextor M10P 2TB
Display(s) InnoCN 27M2V
Case Thermaltake Level 20 XT
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
Power Supply FSP Aurum PT 1200W
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Joined
Dec 2, 2009
Messages
3,352 (0.61/day)
System Name Dark Stealth
Processor Ryzen 5 5600x
Motherboard Gigabyte B450M Gaming rev 1.0
Cooling Snowman, arctic p12 x2 fans
Memory 16x2 DDR4 Corsair Dominator Pro
Video Card(s) 3080 10gb
Storage 2TB NVME PCIE 4.0 Crucial P3 Plus, 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, 4TB WD RED HDD
Display(s) HP Omen 34c (34" monitor 3440x1440 165Hz VA panel)
Case Zalman S2
Power Supply Corsair 750TX
Mouse Logitech pro superlight, mx mouse s3, Razer Basiliskx with battery
Keyboard Custom mechanical keyboard tm680
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores 70-80 fps 3440x1440 on cyberpunk 2077 max settings
at least they finally made it to name the cards :)
 
Joined
Jul 19, 2006
Messages
43,606 (6.50/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 4090
Storage WD m.2
Display(s) LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s) Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard Tester84
Software Windows 11
Oh no! Another business makes a strange marketing strategy move. Nooooooooooo!

btarunr said:
There's a famous Hindi proverb "Is hamaam mein sab nange hain" meaning "everyone's naked in this bathroom".

(everyone's equally full of s*** in business)

Unfortunately.. Especially in the PC hardware business. Add politics to that too, but that isn't a discussion for here.

Looking past all the marketing bulls*** that people love to hold dear.. It really comes down to performance and price and where it all fits in with the competition. AMD could change their colors to pink and puke green, call their cards Ultra-Poop 2000's and it really doesn't matter once it's in my computer doing it's job.

*I have a new project to work on involving a 5XXX series card and some ugly paint!
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Messages
4,267 (0.68/day)
Location
Sanford, FL, USA
Processor Intel i5-6600
Motherboard ASRock H170M-ITX
Cooling Cooler Master Geminii S524
Memory G.Skill DDR4-2133 16GB (8GB x 2)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte R9-380X 4GB
Storage Samsung 950 EVO 250GB (mSATA)
Display(s) LG 29UM69G-B 2560x1080 IPS
Case Lian Li PC-Q25
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892
Power Supply Seasonic SS-460FL2
Mouse Logitech G700s
Keyboard Logitech G110
Software Windows 10 Pro
Ahh.. just like in politics. I'll be buying whoever I hate the least at the moment.
 

wolf

Better Than Native
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
8,175 (1.27/day)
System Name MightyX
Processor Ryzen 9800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X650I AX
Cooling Scythe Fuma 2
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) Asus TUF RTX3080 Deshrouded
Storage WD Black SN850X 2TB
Display(s) LG 42C2 4K OLED
Case Coolermaster NR200P
Audio Device(s) LG SN5Y / Focal Clear
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RBG Pro SE
Keyboard Glorious GMMK Compact w/pudding
VR HMD Meta Quest 3
Software case populated with Artic P12's
Benchmark Scores 4k120 OLED Gsync bliss
There's a famous Hindi proverb "Is hamaam mein sab nange hain" meaning "everyone's naked in this bathroom".

(everyone's equally full of s*** in business)

+1, it's just business to them, both camps do it.

I for one can't believe people base their brand choice simply because they think the other brand has 'shady' practices. clearly both AMD and Nvidia rebrand/have rebranded, deal with it.
 

Semi-Lobster

New Member
Joined
Jul 9, 2009
Messages
352 (0.06/day)
Oh AMD is pulling an Nvidia.... maybe I'll get an S3 Video card next year :p
 
Joined
Sep 13, 2008
Messages
1,230 (0.21/day)
Location
Metro Atlanta
Processor AMD Ryzen 1700
Motherboard Gigabyte AB350 GAMING 3
Memory 16GB (2x8) 3200MHz
Display(s) Acer 24" LCD
Software Windows 10 Pro
This is an outrage! or not....meh, bastards.
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2010
Messages
970 (0.18/day)
Location
Granby, Qc. Canada
System Name Loose nuts & bolts
Processor FX-8350 - EK Supreme HF full nickel
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
Cooling Water EK goodness all around 2xBlack Ice X-280
Memory 2 x8G HyperX Fury 1600 @ 9-9-9-24-1T
Video Card(s) 2 x XFX RX 480 w/EK-FC RX 480 nickel+Acetal
Storage Samsung 850 Evo + 2xWD Black 500GB in RAID0
Display(s) Crossover 27" 2560x1440 110Hz OC
Case Cooler Master HAF XB EVO
Audio Device(s) on board
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Software Win 10 Enterprise x64
Joined
Mar 28, 2007
Messages
2,490 (0.39/day)
Location
Your house.
System Name Jupiter-2
Processor Intel i3-6100
Motherboard H170I-PLUS D3
Cooling Stock
Memory 8GB Mushkin DDR3L-1600
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1050ti
Storage 512GB Corsair SSD
Display(s) BENQ 24in
Case Lian Li PC-Q01B Mini ITX
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair 450W
Mouse Logitech Trackball
Keyboard Custom bamboo job
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Finished Super PI on legendary mode in only 13 hours.
Wait a sec -- so it's not certain as of now whether they're actually going to rebrand or not? At least, until this is verified by something more than an anonymous image? :p Should you change the headline to say "AMD Possibly Rebranding," then?

Good reason to go green next round :laugh:

Oh, they're no better when it comes to rebranding. But at least now they're no worse. :shadedshu
 

Benetanegia

New Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.48/day)
Location
Reaching your left retina.
If this is true, and not FUD or a tactic, the worst part is that Turks will still be released under HD 66x0 or (even worse) 65x0 name. That sugests that it is clearly slower than Juniper or they would a) don't release it (cancel) or b) don't rebrand Juniper. If they were within a 5%-10% close to each other, there would be no market for either one of them, but apparently there is. And this is bad news, since Barts being 2xTurks means that Barts is inferior to Cypress, arguably by as much as Turks is to Juniper. And same for Cayman, being 3xTurks I don't see it being much faster than Cypress. And I mean "Cayman Pro not being faster than Cypress XT" kind of not much faster.

This is very dissapointintg if true.
 

CharlO

New Member
Joined
Oct 5, 2008
Messages
80 (0.01/day)
Man! Now I dsipect AMD as I did with nVidia two years ago. At least Ati was a good brand :p
 
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
652 (0.11/day)
Location
Bay Shore NY
System Name BACKTOTHEFUTURE
Processor Stock I7 920
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-DS4 BIOS F6
Cooling 4 120mm 1 140mm top fan
Memory 12 gigabytes of DDR3 1333 RAM
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 780ti
Storage Samsung 1.5 terrabyte Steam Drive and 2 Samsung 750 gig Sata 2 in Raid 0
Display(s) HP LP3065 30" Monitor
Case Antec Three Hundred
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DS
Power Supply Solid Gear Neutron 750 watt
Software Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
Its Called Going Soft In The Hardware Business

When you do that you then you lose. What happened to doubling the performance each generation?

I'm glad I bought a GTX 460. It just shows that the only fanboy you should be is yourself. ;)
 
Joined
Apr 16, 2010
Messages
3,600 (0.67/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name LenovoⓇ ThinkPad™ T430
Processor IntelⓇ Core™ i5-3210M processor (2 cores, 2.50GHz, 3MB cache), Intel Turbo Boost™ 2.0 (3.10GHz), HT™
Motherboard Lenovo 2344 (Mobile Intel QM77 Express Chipset)
Cooling Single-pipe heatsink + Delta fan
Memory 2x 8GB KingstonⓇ HyperX™ Impact 2133MHz DDR3L SO-DIMM
Video Card(s) Intel HD Graphics™ 4000 (GPU clk: 1100MHz, vRAM clk: 1066MHz)
Storage SamsungⓇ 860 EVO mSATA (250GB) + 850 EVO (500GB) SATA
Display(s) 14.0" (355mm) HD (1366x768) color, anti-glare, LED backlight, 200 nits, 16:9 aspect ratio, 300:1 co
Case ThinkPad Roll Cage (one-piece magnesium frame)
Audio Device(s) HD Audio, RealtekⓇ ALC3202 codec, DolbyⓇ Advanced Audio™ v2 / stereo speakers, 1W x 2
Power Supply ThinkPad 65W AC Adapter + ThinkPad Battery 70++ (9-cell)
Mouse TrackPointⓇ pointing device + UltraNav™, wide touchpad below keyboard + ThinkLight™
Keyboard 6-row, 84-key, ThinkVantage button, spill-resistant, multimedia Fn keys, LED backlight (PT Layout)
Software MicrosoftⓇ WindowsⓇ 10 x86-64 (22H2)
If they're keeping the core (i.e. not adding core architectural changes), this means HD 5770 owners could Flash their BIOS to HD 6770s, in search for higher clocks??
This works for the nVs 9800/250, right?
I'm guessing they'll make changes to the board, so this might not be doable, but one can wonder.
AMD could change their colors to pink and puke green, call their cards Ultra-Poop 2000's and it really doesn't matter once it's in my computer doing it's job.
Man, I'd love to see that happening, I really would! (Not sure I'd buy the card, though.)

Also, lol @ immediate comparisons from AMDs move to nVidia's. It's not like AMD is doing it to all of it's cards. But what's the score on this marketing crap strategies?
 
Joined
Mar 28, 2007
Messages
2,490 (0.39/day)
Location
Your house.
System Name Jupiter-2
Processor Intel i3-6100
Motherboard H170I-PLUS D3
Cooling Stock
Memory 8GB Mushkin DDR3L-1600
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1050ti
Storage 512GB Corsair SSD
Display(s) BENQ 24in
Case Lian Li PC-Q01B Mini ITX
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair 450W
Mouse Logitech Trackball
Keyboard Custom bamboo job
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Finished Super PI on legendary mode in only 13 hours.
Joined
May 4, 2009
Messages
1,972 (0.35/day)
Location
Bulgaria
System Name penguin
Processor R7 5700G
Motherboard Asrock B450M Pro4
Cooling Some CM tower cooler that will fit my case
Memory 4 x 8GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2666MHz
Video Card(s) IGP
Storage ADATA SU800 512GB
Display(s) 27' LG
Case Zalman
Audio Device(s) stock
Power Supply Seasonic SS-620GM
Software win10
So this means that the article i linked to a couple of weeks ago was in fact true...Too bad I was hoping we'd see something new.

I dunno if this was already discussed here but I found this randomly browsing the net:
[In german]
[I n english - google translate]
http://news.ati-forum.de/images/stories/Szymanski/News/2010/6000_03_09_2010.jpg

Basically rumors have begun circulating that Ati will do some re-badging and renaming and mix the hd5000 and 6000 cards together. It's probably just a rumor but i hope it's fake. I'd like to see some op to bottom updates with a reasonable increase in performance.
 

wolf

Better Than Native
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
8,175 (1.27/day)
System Name MightyX
Processor Ryzen 9800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X650I AX
Cooling Scythe Fuma 2
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) Asus TUF RTX3080 Deshrouded
Storage WD Black SN850X 2TB
Display(s) LG 42C2 4K OLED
Case Coolermaster NR200P
Audio Device(s) LG SN5Y / Focal Clear
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RBG Pro SE
Keyboard Glorious GMMK Compact w/pudding
VR HMD Meta Quest 3
Software case populated with Artic P12's
Benchmark Scores 4k120 OLED Gsync bliss
Looks like it HalfAHertz, but hey, maybe they'll do something good with them rebranded anyway, like change the look and outputs to match the new series, mess with clocks etc...
 

Fourstaff

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
10,077 (1.84/day)
Location
Home
System Name Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor 3570K // 10400F
Motherboard ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling Stock // Stock
Memory 2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s) Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s) LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w
I am so happy AMD decided not to tarnish the legendary ATi brand (by retiring it first) and take in the rebranding shit themselves. Kudos to AMD for this move!
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2010
Messages
1,359 (0.25/day)
Processor Core i7 920
Motherboard Asus P6T v2
Cooling Noctua D-14
Memory OCZ Gold 1600
Video Card(s) Powercolor PCS+ 5870
Storage Samsung SpinPoint F3 1 TB
Display(s) Samsung LE-B530 37" TV
Case Lian Li PC-B25F
Audio Device(s) N/A
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 700w
Software Windows 7 64-bit
I see a lot of rumours and a lot of speculation: 6770's called 6870's and now this. I supose we will have to simply wait and see, but everything suggests that we are now faced with the same shitty marketing practices that I am all too happy to criticise when Nvidia are involved, and all too happy to criticise here and now.
 
Joined
Apr 2, 2009
Messages
582 (0.10/day)
System Name Flow
Processor AMD Phenom II 955 BE
Motherboard MSI 790fx GD70
Cooling Water
Memory 8gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer Blue ddr3 1600 c8
Video Card(s) 2 x XFX 6850 - Yet to go under water.
Storage Corsair s128
Display(s) HP 24" 1920x1200
Case Custom Lian-Li V2110b
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1
Power Supply Corsair 850HX
This is a child's level powerpoint slide coming from a source known for YEARS to be full of speculation and bull....

I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2007
Messages
5,106 (0.80/day)
Location
Kansas
Processor Core i5 3570K
Motherboard AsRock z77 Pro4
Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Extreme
Memory 2x4GB GSkill Sniper
Video Card(s) MSI GTX970 Gaming
Storage 240GB OCZ ARC 100, Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
Display(s) LG 23" 1920x1080
Case Antec P100
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Antec Edge 750W
Software Windows 8.1 Pro 64
YAWN......

People who do their homework shouldn't give two squirts of piss about the name of the card. If you're buying it because of the label, you deserve whatever rancid piece of doggie doo you end up with. :roll:
 

afw

Joined
Mar 4, 2009
Messages
646 (0.11/day)
System Name StealthX
Processor Intel i7 2700k
Motherboard Asus SABERTOOTH z77
Cooling Prolimatech Genesis
Memory CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX 960 2GB black edition
Storage CORSAIR FORCE GT 120GB SSD + Samsung Spinpoint F3 (1TB + 2 x 500GB)
Display(s) Acer G235H 23" (1920 x 1080)
Case Silverstone Raven RV02
Audio Device(s) OB
Power Supply Seasonic x650 GOLD
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
If the 6870 is slower than the 5870 (think it will be) ... it would look very weird on graphs when the benchmarks come out .... :laugh:
 
Top