FX-Series Processors Clock Speeds 'Revealed'

[seronx]

I get the feeling some of these prices will be closer to $400 than sub $300.

I get the feeling it's going to be lower

Athlon II X4 635 = $100(Old)
ATi 5570 = $50(Old)

Llano with the same specs or better specs: $140 while brand spanking new

If we follow the same price scheme

2 x Phenom II X4 955 BE = $240
2 x Phenom II X4 980 BE = $380
is the range

$240-$380 is a big range

 

[happita]

I get the feeling some of these prices will be closer to $400 than sub $300.

It's going to be purely based on how well it is going to perform in relation to the 2500k/2600k....that and if there's a significant amount of demand or lack thereof.

 

[Pestilence]

I get the feeling some of these prices will be closer to $400 than sub $300.

All depends on how it perform's. If it perform's as OBR says the 8 core wll be around the same price as the 2500K

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

All depends on how it perform's. If it perform's as OBR says the 8 core wll be around the same price as the 2500K

I dun know I have a hunch the top of the line will be the better part of $400.

 

[seronx]

If I told you guys a 16-core Interlagos has a higher clock speed to that of a 6180 SE 12 core Opteron?
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Opteron 6180 SE - OS6180YETCEGO.html

Would you believe me?

So, seeing that 8100s Clock Speed is complete BULLDOODOO
(Whole chart is bulldoo doo)

The Bulldozer architecture is refereed to being a Speed Demon Architecture

High Clocks/Low Latency

The Bulldozer 2-core CPU module contains 213M transistors in an 11-metal layer 32nm high-k metalgate
SOI CMOS process and is designed to operate from 0.8 to 1.3V. This micro-architecture improves
performance and frequency while reducing area and power over a previous AMD x86-64 CPU in the
same process. The design reduces the number of gates/cycle relative to prior designs, achieving
3.5GHz+ operation in an area (including 2MB L2 cache) of 30.9mm2.

http://isscc.org/doc/2011/isscc2011.advanceprogrambooklet_abstracts.pdf

How over time we forget things....

 

[NC37]

I always had this urge to get an AMD processor because of a few things:
1. Price/Performance
2. Upgrade paths
3. Help support the underdog

#1 and #3 are no longer a factor for me and haven't been for a long time. My E8400 has been flying, spanking PII's for years and I haven't looked back. Also, the underdog argument...I'm starting to care less and less about AMD's processor lineups because they haven't shown ANYTHING worthwhile to me, at least in relation to competing with similar Intel processors in terms of performance. So the only thing left for me to root them on in is the fact that they don't change their sockets every 6 months or so like Intel does. And that alone will not get me to go to AMD's side. I'm starting to lose faith more and more as time goes on in this never-ending struggle to see who is going to be on top (because we all know Intel will always be on top with enthusiasts, other segments are up for debate though).



Was thinking the same thing

Aye, I like the same. But I add a reason to go AMD is also because general cost of other things is less too. Boards themselves I've noticed are cheaper. When I did a build comparison for a friend...going Intel raised the price by $300 at least. That is counting Intel premium on the CPU and also the cost of the board. For the performance he needed, Phenom II was plenty and saved $300.

When I think of it for mine. What would I rather have...better CPU or save money and get better GPU? I pick GPU. AMD keeping to the same sockets longer then means I can upgrade later on the CPU. Overall life of the system extends a couple years before I absolutely have to change all the parts out.

Heck, current build is from 06 and I don't forsee a full part out for another year at least. Probably will once the next gen consoles launch.

 

[Benetanegia]

@seronx

Netburst was a speed demon too. When they designed it (and for quite some time after that) Intel thought it would eventually hit 10 Ghz with new processes, and according to the roadmap it should have reached 5Ghz+ by the time it was phased out. Well that was the plan. Instead, reality hit them hard.

You should really stop believing every PR paper or statement you come across and looking at what happens around you.

Oh well, time will reveal everyhing, whatever it is.

 

[seronx]

Netburst was a speed demon too. When they designed it (and for quite some time after that) Intel thought it would eventually hit 10 Ghz with new processes, and according to the roadmap it should have reached 5Ghz+ by the time it was phased out. Well that was the plan. Instead, reality hit them hard.

Bulldozer isn't Netburst
Bulldozer doesn't have the outrageous goal of going beyond 10GHz or 5GHz
It only needs to be 3.5+GHz which is rather a lot easier now than in the past

Oh well, time will reveal everyhing, whatever it is.

Time always reveals everything

 

[_JP_]

Time always reveals everything

Well, IMO, time is being such a troll, regarding to this.

 

[seronx]

Well, IMO, time is being such a troll, regarding to this.

Well we can't base Zambezi's performance on OBR's Benchmarks ever or those tricked by OBR

Like anyone would do that to begin with, lol

i can post here, emails ... differently edited pictures and more and more proofs, i manipulated scores and sent them to DH ... STOP dreaming kids, Bulldozer was, is and will be CRAP!

OF Course, all results was FAKEs, i know it, ive faked them No real numbers before NDA

These were PUNKD!

http://www.ddworld.cz/aktuality/pro...konava-konkurencni-intel-core-i7-2600k-2.html
http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci...-Bulldozer-FX-islemcisi-ve-test-sonuclari.htm
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/bulldozer-b1-revision-benchmar/1232179?page=1
http://vr-zone.com/articles/purported-amd-bulldozer-benchmarks-leaked/12914.html
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=31992805#post31992805
http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/prvni-testy-bulldozeru-core-i7-2600k-porazeno-ukol-splnen
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=19561597
http://fudzilla.com/processors/item/23381-bulldozer-performance-figures-are-in
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/308802-10-bulldozer-performance-figures-outpace-sandy-bridge
http://forum.xbitlabs.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18774&start=0
http://www.techspot.com/news/44627-amds-bulldozer-based-fx-8130p-benchmarked-early.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11054/
http://en.expreview.com/2011/07/11/amd-bulldozer-fx-8130p-performance-unearthed/18133.html

... and many more.

Advice for this day: DONT trust everything on internet! You all were PUNKD! Maybe this whole text is next hoax, maybe not ... But you will see ... who is right in October.

Coming from the Intel Evangelist himself OBR

Once a Liar always a Liar

Time is a troll

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Well we can't base Zambezi's performance on OBR's Benchmarks ever or those tricked by OBR



Coming from the Intel Evangelist himself OBR

Once a Liar always a Liar

Time is a troll

I'm glad I never trusted his crap in the first place.

 

[seronx]

I'm glad I never trusted his crap in the first place.

Don't trust anything, lol until it's released

The only word so far is

That the clock rates will be "acceptable"<-- E3 and it will outperform the older generation<-- A given

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Don't trust anything, lol until it's released

The only word so far is

That the clock rates will be "acceptable"<-- E3 and it will outperform the older generation<-- A given

This is how I see it.

 

[seronx]

This is how I see it.

And if you want to see some new stuff here you guys go this came out yesterday

Take it with a grain of salt

 

[Thatguy]

These chips were supposed to be out in June.. Now October. What an absolute mess.

What part of APU orders sucking the fabs dry do you not understand ?

 

[Thefumigator]

I'm much more interested in Valencia now...
I didn't know socket C32 was going to be bulldozer-ready as the G34
dual socket C32 mobos are so cheap that I would like to build a full workstation with 6 or 8 cores per socket. I could still do this with actual 6 core (deneb-like) opterons, those are relatively cheap too.

 

[seronx]

What part of APU orders sucking the fabs dry do you not understand ?

Everybody calm down. It is a few weeks difference in schedules. We are shipping server in Q3 like we said.

That schedule delay pushed the launch of client into Q3. Nothing sinister. But keep in mind that launches align around events and partners, not production schedules.

The rumors of isssues aren't worth the time to address, they aren't true. Too much conspiracy theory going around.

I am not making any comments about client products. Because server and client are using the same architecture I was trying to be helpful in the past. I get slammed in forums, called a liar (and worse), I have obscenities posted to my blog. Sorry, done with that world. I don't have time for the hassle. Let the enthusiasts battle it out, I don't care to get involved in that any more.

I would bother to respond if people would actually read what I say. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to match their reality. Perhaps if you go back to my statement about engineering samples not designed for performance you'd understand that you are beating a horse that is no longer alive.

The point is....

The Fabs aren't sucked dry

notable posts by JF-AMD


http://www.overclock.net/10213459-post1.html

http://www.overclock.net/10214120-post7.html

http://www.overclock.net/10214459-post14.html

http://www.overclock.net/10221237-post29.html

http://www.overclock.net/10221256-post30.html

http://www.overclock.net/10228979-post44.html

http://www.overclock.net/10280407-post66.html

http://www.overclock.net/10285077-post68.html

http://www.overclock.net/10333564-post94.html

http://www.overclock.net/10449553-post109.html

http://www.overclock.net/10460270-post123.html

http://www.overclock.net/10521943-post141.html

http://www.overclock.net/10537827-post163.html

http://www.overclock.net/10607869-post187.html

http://www.overclock.net/10610503-post194.html

http://www.overclock.net/10897321-post235.html

http://www.overclock.net/11483078-post256.html

http://www.overclock.net/11490329-post259.html

http://www.overclock.net/11500983-post261.html <-- lol JF-AMD is a hardcore wii gamer

http://www.overclock.net/11519918-post267.html

http://www.overclock.net/11587550-post273.html <-- JF-AMD has a cool bike

http://www.overclock.net/11668657-post279.html

http://www.overclock.net/11804854-post295.html

http://www.overclock.net/11851528-post301.html

http://www.overclock.net/11897788-post313.html

http://www.overclock.net/11913071-post316.html

http://www.overclock.net/11926687-post339.html <--- big hint

http://www.overclock.net/11935836-post348.html <-- another big hint

http://www.overclock.net/11942490-post353.html <-- big hint

http://www.overclock.net/11948015-post357.html

http://www.overclock.net/11963044-post359.html

http://www.overclock.net/12053490-post423.html

http://www.overclock.net/12055422-post425.html

http://www.overclock.net/12408378-post553.html

http://www.overclock.net/12426560-post562.html <-- I can answer this 1.6 Billion Trannies and 320mm^2 max possible trolololol

http://www.overclock.net/12474800-post594.html

http://www.overclock.net/12564841-post608.html

http://www.overclock.net/12607433-post642.html <-- JF AMD is cautious secret agent man

http://www.overclock.net/12681541-post672.html

http://www.overclock.net/12691379-post682.html

http://www.overclock.net/12758263-post727.html

Everything starts to repeat from now on

http://www.overclock.net/12770587-post738.html

http://www.overclock.net/12788871-post758.html

http://www.overclock.net/12792974-post760.html <-- if the mods deleted everyones posts except JF-AMDs we would already know everything by now lol

http://www.overclock.net/12823850-post772.html

http://www.overclock.net/12892710-post798.html <-- price is speculation

http://www.overclock.net/12894099-post800.html

http://www.overclock.net/12914382-post810.html

http://www.overclock.net/12928373-post818.html

http://www.overclock.net/13172102-post890.html <-- JF-AMD you need to make an Biography of your life

http://www.overclock.net/13382944-post957.html hmmm?! I don't know

http://www.overclock.net/13387835-post963.html

http://www.overclock.net/13400763-post977.html

http://www.overclock.net/13414790-post992.html <-- your life sucks, here I am sitting down not getting paid linking your posts lol totally awesome for me but no you have to travel all the time

http://www.overclock.net/13511780-post1043.html

http://www.overclock.net/13525364-post1045.html

http://www.overclock.net/13697096-post1157.html

http://www.overclock.net/13761097-post1257.html

http://www.overclock.net/13793834-post1285.html

http://www.overclock.net/13794528-post1287.html

http://www.overclock.net/13823115-post1313.html <-- you tell em, ES =/= PS

http://www.overclock.net/13825887-post1317.html lol

http://www.overclock.net/13831245-post1325.html

http://www.overclock.net/13852442-post1351.html <-- Not a JF-AMD quote but it does quote JF-AMD 1st version

http://www.overclock.net/13855650-post1357.html

http://www.overclock.net/13902739-post1392.html

http://www.overclock.net/13970433-post1438.html

http://www.overclock.net/14090326-post1525.html

http://www.overclock.net/14110811-post1541.html <-- JF-AMD 2nd version(more revised)

http://www.overclock.net/14156604-post1585.html

http://www.overclock.net/14161067-post1593.html

http://www.overclock.net/14189031-post1615.html +1 for seronx

At overclock.net I found all of the notable quotes from JF-AMD

Since JF-AMD doesn't come here well

This is all the quotes on the overclock.net there is more at toms Hardware, AMDZone, HardOCP and other places

Only AMD knows and the only one talking about Bulldozer is this guy JF-AMD

John Fruehe AMD Employee

 

[Disparia]

Bah, didn't grep anything of importance from that. Only want to know when I can buy one.

 

[seronx]

Bah, didn't grep anything of importance from that. Only want to know when I can buy one.

When you get to buy one

Very Soon <----> Soon <----> Don't hold your breath

Q3 unless a delay which is highly unlikely

 

[Disparia]

That's about as precise as Pi to only 3 decimal places!

 

[seronx]

That's about as precise as Pi to only 3 decimal places!

Well we are in Q3 right now

2H = Q3 and Q4

Q3 = July, August, September

We are half way through July, and you only have two months and 1 half-month left before Q4

AMD has told us we will receive this in Q3 which is from a span from now to Q4

is 11 Weeks that is 77 days, 55 days for business

 

[Disparia]

That didn't help narrow down the possibilities, it's still only as precise as it has been - "Q3".

How does one induce a coma? Need to wait it out until BD hits.

 

[cadaveca]

Since JF-AMD doesn't come here well

JF-AMD posts here too, FYI.

 

[Pestilence]

And if you want to see some new stuff here you guys go this came out yesterday

Take it with a grain of salt

http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/food/659_grain-of-salt.gif

1. Doesn't show what kind of cooling it has. Could be air like he says.. Could be LN2.
2. Overclocking in windows? Are you kidding me?
3. It's unstable as shit. Notice when he starts up the computer windows is asking him if he wants to boot into safe mode? Why is that. Because it's crashing
4. 2 core overclocking? Who cares

 

[erocker]

JF-AMD posts here too, FYI.

Not for quite a while. I don't blame him either, many of the threads that he posted in were filled with immaturity, "grain of salt" posts and FUD from other websites. I would stay away as well.