The RAGE Megathread

[mediasorcerer]

i dont get this,maybe because ive installed from discs? but all ive had was the screen tearing initially,i did a few tweaks in ccc and moved my os onto vertex 3 etc,now its running absolutely perfectly!!! alls ive got is a 6850oc,gigabyte[] whats the deal.how come folks with more powerful systems/cards is worse etc. i think maybe a big part is "downloading" it?? perhaps the discs are a better way to install,unfortunatley or fortunately?

 

[RevengE]

Well good news, the new AMD drivers fixed my loading issue at mutant bash tv. I still see some NPC glitching but the game is running great now. I'm assuming the smaller things will be fixed with time and a patch.

 

[erocker]

i dont get this,maybe because ive installed from discs? but all ive had was the screen tearing initially,i did a few tweaks in ccc and moved my os onto vertex 3 etc,now its running absolutely perfectly!!! alls ive got is a 6850oc,gigabyte[] whats the deal.how come folks with more powerful systems/cards is worse etc. i think maybe a big part is "downloading" it?? perhaps the discs are a better way to install,unfortunatley or fortunately?

No. The files once installed on your computer are the same. Downloading/discs have nothing to do with the issues. The files stored on a disc are no different than the files hosted on the servers where people download from. Most had problems the day it launched but they were all pretty much fixed the next day.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

What bugs are you still getting? It's been perfect for me now and I'm really liking the game.

Your likin it? Okay im sold, gonna go out an get me a copy XD

 

[mediasorcerer]

No. The files once installed on your computer are the same. Downloading/discs have nothing to do with the issues. The files stored on a disc are no different than the files hosted on the servers where people download from. Most had problems the day it launched but they were all pretty much fixed the next day.

yeh well thats the logic and what i presumed too,perhaps the rage drivers really work,i guess with any game on any given system,with all the different configs in the world,bound to be some conflicts,i am still getting the odd glitch,just nothing to worry about ,anyway,its quite a good game,i dont feel ripped off,its quite good fun,and the shooting mechanics are pretty good for me,its getting better as it goes along,

 

[laszlo]

new amd driver tested ...now all even worse as textures load for minutes & all freeze till loading them;tried command line ,disk cache.. with or without, same;make changes in ccc no diff.

i revert to previous drivers as least i can play and have over 40 fps with texture popping;i think the engine don't like this new driver at all... rage

as i saw at bethesda rage forum many have same issue like me;for some new driver it helped ,others no difference and last cat. worst...

 

[mediasorcerer]

new amd driver tested ...now all even worse as textures load for minutes & all freeze till loading them;tried command line ,disk cache.. with or without, same;make changes in ccc no diff.

i revert to previous drivers as least i can play and have over 40 fps with texture popping;i think the engine don't like this new driver at all... rage

as i saw at bethesda rage forum many have same issue like me;for some new driver it helped ,others no difference and last cat. worst...

very sorry to hear that,what a nuisance.

 

[techtard]

@laszlo
I think your system requirements might be too low. 2gb ram, an old slow dual core and a 3870.
In fact I just looked up the minimum specs for the game. And you are either just barely powerful enough, or not powerful enough to make the minimum specs.If your system doesn't make the minimum, then you don't really have a right to complain. They tell you minimum spec for a reason.

Also, the new AMD drivers are stated to be compatible with the HD6xxx, HD5xxx, andHD4xxx series cards.
Not trying to be an ass here, that's just the way it is.

Maybe you can try this in the launch options: +vt_maxPPF 4 (or 8) and see if it offloads any of the texture streaming transcoding on to your CPU.


@mediasorcerer
Well, you have a beast of a system, are running the newest drivers and have it installed on a super-fast SSD. It should be running like a dream. Glad things worked out for you. It's almost better that you had to wait a few days for the discs to ship to you, you got to skip all the headaches involved with improper drivers.

 

[laszlo]

@techtard

i dont think my system can't handle this;2gb ram but is still fast-low timings 1T i'm using it at max.;cpu not so slow is oc at max;vga may be low with 512 mb but is still great;till now i played all new titles with good fps;with older driver i get min. 40 fps with popping so i think i'll get 25 when all issues will be solved

peoples with high end machines(look at beths forum) ,not like mine..., have same problems so i think is not a hardware issue/minimum syst.req. we facing here;something is not right ....

 

[techtard]

I used to have a pair of 3870s, they were solid. But, AMD doesn't seem to be supporting them anymore with newer drivers, you may be out of luck.

Most people with AMD cards have gotten past the issues due to the updated drivers and/or the +vt_maxPPF 4 (or 8 or 16~up to 256 depending on your CPU power) command set in the launch options.

If they aren't going to release new OpenGL drivers for the older 3xxx series of GPUs, then you probably won't get very good performance in this game, ever.

Maybe you can try getting your hands on the ati openGL DLL file and dropping it in your \Steam\steamapps\common\rage folder. That could screw things up though. Your card might not be compatible with that file.
You can find this file in the temp install folder of the newest drivers. It is called atioglxx.dl_

I'm not promising that this will work, but it's worth a shot.

Now this next part is not directed at you, please don't be offended, It's just a simple observation.

Most of the posters in the Bethsoft forums, and the Steam forums, and all over the internet for that matter seem to be very unskilled when it comes to using PCs. Combine that with their low reading comprehension skills, and the fact that they do not read all the stickied advice threads, or the relevant posts detailing what other users have done to get their game working properly has led to HUGE amount of internet rage.
If most of these people took their ADHD medicine, took a few minutes to read and then tweak their settings, things would work out great for the majority of them.

Hell, I was pissed that I spent $60 dollars to pre-order this game and it was basically unplayable for a few days. But, the gaming community came together, and some of the smarter gamers figured this shit out for us. It was a bunch of trial and error, but after a few days, things are working pretty good.

I think a lot of us are really spoiled these days, we want instant gratification, and if things don't go our way, we throw a hissy-fit.

I'm not accusing anyone here of that, that's just what I've noticed in the last few days of late night troubleshooting for this game.

 

[laszlo]

i never take it like offense tech dont worry hahahaha

i keep reading the :http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.ph...t-1110-preview-driver-ragebf3-unified-driver/

i noticed also there the ati open gl dll insertion and i just give a try now;till now i changed in command line many values and tested them;is interesting however that i don't hear my vga to working....;usually when i start a demanding game my fan is spinning up;is set to 59% but when a game start it always audible the increase ..with rage nothing like this game won't use the card proper or fully

i report back after testing;cpu spikes up to 100% when load but after is down to 80-95;i see also free ram available and cache also so...i don't know

 

[DannibusX]

http://www.gamefront.com/carmack-we-do-not-see-the-pc-as-the-leading-platform-for-games/

I just got stabbed in the heart.

 

[LifeOnMars]

I used to have a pair of 3870s, they were solid. But, AMD doesn't seem to be supporting them anymore with newer drivers, you may be out of luck.

Most people with AMD cards have gotten past the issues due to the updated drivers and/or the +vt_maxPPF 4 (or 8 or 16~up to 256 depending on your CPU power) command set in the launch options.

If they aren't going to release new OpenGL drivers for the older 3xxx series of GPUs, then you probably won't get very good performance in this game, ever.

Maybe you can try getting your hands on the ati openGL DLL file and dropping it in your \Steam\steamapps\common\rage folder. That could screw things up though. Your card might not be compatible with that file.
You can find this file in the temp install folder of the newest drivers. It is called atioglxx.dl_

I'm not promising that this will work, but it's worth a shot.

Now this next part is not directed at you, please don't be offended, It's just a simple observation.

Most of the posters in the Bethsoft forums, and the Steam forums, and all over the internet for that matter seem to be very unskilled when it comes to using PCs. Combine that with their low reading comprehension skills, and the fact that they do not read all the stickied advice threads, or the relevant posts detailing what other users have done to get their game working properly has led to HUGE amount of internet rage.
If most of these people took their ADHD medicine, took a few minutes to read and then tweak their settings, things would work out great for the majority of them.

Hell, I was pissed that I spent $60 dollars to pre-order this game and it was basically unplayable for a few days. But, the gaming community came together, and some of the smarter gamers figured this shit out for us. It was a bunch of trial and error, but after a few days, things are working pretty good.

I think a lot of us are really spoiled these days, we want instant gratification, and if things don't go our way, we throw a hissy-fit.

I'm not accusing anyone here of that, that's just what I've noticed in the last few days of late night troubleshooting for this game.

Great post mate and I have to agree, it's a thing nowadays whereby everyone quick to judge without taking to the time to educate themselves. Simple things can often be missed when somebody is so busy ranting......that said, I also agree that there needs to be a serious rethink regarding the state of recent game releases, some people just want to play it out of the box and why shouldn't they?

 

[Richieb0y]

I got sick of it on the PC so i just bougt it on the PS3 with a nice full HD led tv

 

[techtard]

@DannibusX
John Carmack doesn't have much say in the matter anymore. He sold id to Zenimax/Bethesda. They see consoles as the way to go, and Carmack and co. have to do as they're told.
It's terrible. We're being held back by old and tired consoles.
Things will be better when the next gen consoles launch, they will be closer to PC standards, but will slowly fall behind.

@LifeOnMars
It's harder to optimize for PCs. There are such a wide variety of configurations. And most newer games optimized for consoles then ported to PC. That's why it's hit and miss out of the box.

@Richieb0y
That's one way of getting it to run right! The game looks amazing when you set it up right on PC though.

 

[Richieb0y]

@Richieb0y
That's one way of getting it to run right! The game looks amazing when you set it up right on PC though.

thats for sure but i think my pc is to slow anyways for rage and the PS3 got a little bit of popup texture but i dont mind it at least it running really smooht but the PC is the winner

 

[techtard]

thats for sure but i think my pc is to slow anyways for rage and the PS3 got a little bit of popup texture but i dont mind it at least it running really smooht but the PC is the winner

Your CPU is more powerful than mine, and your video card is still pretty good. With some tweaking, you probably could have run it at max settings. Well, enjoy it on PS3. That's still a pretty decent system.

 

[mediasorcerer]

@laszlo
I think your system requirements might be too low. 2gb ram, an old slow dual core and a 3870.
In fact I just looked up the minimum specs for the game. And you are either just barely powerful enough, or not powerful enough to make the minimum specs.If your system doesn't make the minimum, then you don't really have a right to complain. They tell you minimum spec for a reason.

Also, the new AMD drivers are stated to be compatible with the HD6xxx, HD5xxx, andHD4xxx series cards.
Not trying to be an ass here, that's just the way it is.

Maybe you can try this in the launch options: +vt_maxPPF 4 (or 8) and see if it offloads any of the texture streaming transcoding on to your CPU.







@mediasorcerer
Well, you have a beast of a system, are running the newest drivers and have it installed on a super-fast SSD. It should be running like a dream. Glad things worked out for you. It's almost better that you had to wait a few days for the discs to ship to you, you got to skip all the headaches involved with improper drivers.

yeh your right,how far are you into the game btw? its getting better and better,im actually quite enjoying it,i love fps and ww2 flying games,dont play anything else really,

ps,good to have you here btw,if i may say,you make a lot of sense to me anyhow,regs frm me.

 

[laszlo]

update

so after trying 5 amd drivers the best for me was 11.8;with command line insertions(+vt_pageImageSizeUnique 4096 +vt_pageImageSizeUniqueDiffuseOnly 4096 +vt_pageImageSizeUniqueDiffuseOnly2 4096 +set fs_cachepath "F:\id software\rage" +vt_maxPPF 8 ) game is playable even i have popping but not so much;i will try different settings at values at exe insertion also wanna see if any diff.

 

[Pandora's Box]

Just beat the game. Overall i'd say its a great game. There are nagging issues with the game however. Quality control with the pc version aside the biggest gripe I have with the game is the over use of area's. Hey go clear this area for this, come back to quest giver and then have another guy tell you to go back in and get something else. I went into the game not expecting a great story. id have never been one for great stories in their game.

As far as the ending goes:

Spoiler

The lack of final boss battle left me unimpressed. The final battle consists of you running thru corridors and activating switches. The final room involves you pressing a button waiting 2 minutes then pressing more buttons till finally a cut scene triggers and game ends. You fight waves of mutants, all exactly the same. They all go down fairly easily using the BFG. Yes the BFG makes a come back in this game and its severely overpowered lol. After the final cut-scene (which btw is awesome) the game cuts to credits and then kicks you back to the main menu. It would have been nice to include an option to start the game again with all the stuff you gathered from the previous playthrough, similar to borderlands.

Overall, I'd say its worth the $60 bucks. There are parts in the game that are very well done. Prime example is the first time you go to the Dead City. I haven't experienced such excellent game play since I first played Half-Life 2. The game does have an eerie familiarity with Half-Life 2 though. Drones following you around just like the camera's in half-life 2 for example.

As for a rating? I'd give it a 85%. Good solid old school fps mixed with RPG elements gives way to excellent gameplay. Only reason I didnt score it higher was the lack of quality control on the pc release. Definitely worth the price I paid, especially at 16.7 hours (according to steam) for 1 playthrough. I have yet to delve into the multiplayer co-op however, so that score is based solely on the single player campaign.

 

[helloWorld]

I have two questions.

1. Is there supposed to be a 64-Bit version?
2. Is this nVidia tweak guide good?

 

[mediasorcerer]

hey im just in the dead city now,its great aint it!!! hows the huge geezer that throws the rocks at cha,haha,he just wacked me,time to hit the sack,yeh,its worth the money,i like the atmosphere,reminds me of metro crossed with,fallout,somtin l;ike that,good gunplay,thank god its long,im sick of these 4 hr run throughs.btw i havent played borderlands yet,

dont know about the tweak guide buddy,try it tho ,if you try enuf tweaks-youll get it going.

hey you guys,i didnt think of this,but you could do registry tweaks to your vista multimedia class scheduler to see if that helps?

 

[TheLaughingMan]

I have two questions.

1. Is there supposed to be a 64-Bit version?
2. Is this nVidia tweak guide good?

1. No, what difference would it really make. Especially since it runs in Steam which is a 32-bit program.

2. Yes, it works.

 

[Animalpak]

Do you think Rage 2 is on the way ?

 

[digibucc]

1. No, what difference would it really make. Especially since it runs in Steam which is a 32-bit program.

agreed it would make no difference really - but steam being 32bit has nothing to do with it. steam is a launcher, it can launch 32 or 64 bit titles. they're just shortcuts.