TPU's F@H Team

[mstenholm]

Vacation again? Do you do that every year? My last real one (out of the house, not working) was 8 years ago.

 

[dustyshiv]

Vacation again? Do you do that every year? My last real one (out of the house, not working) was 8 years ago.

Yup!! One month in an year...fully paid and with air tickets to your home country.

 

[mstenholm]

Yup!! One month in an year...fully paid and with air tickets to your home country.

I kind of knew that. I looked at your figures and most of your prodution were still online. Welcome back to TPU and to your dry spot of the world.

 

[johnspack]

Jeez, so I finally almost have an i7 folder, and all I can get now is smp? That kinda sucks....

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Something occurred to me this morning relating to this BA fiasco. Remember when Fermi came out and there were 2 different groups of WU's available, the 6xx's and 9xx's? Remember people getting 14,000 PPD with an OC'd GTS 450 on the 9xx's? Then remember when the PPD for the GTS 450 was cut in half with the "big" WU's that are now the standard for Fermi? That happened over a short period of time. BA has happened over a longer period of time and the investment required was/is higher.
I do have a problem with Stanford "punishing" so many for the conduct of the few. They have the ability to remove your bonus for SMP if you have too many errors, why can't they remove your access to BA if you keep turning them in late?
This is like a quadruple increase in the requirements for BA.:shadedshu

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

yeh and there is allways a way , jus my 5 pence but i figured just two low price 8xxxfx's and two relatively cheap mobos and you got a sub grand hive that should turn good numbers , but that does also make the changes quite pointless possibly would have been nice to have been represented in their new fangled comunity board as other teams are

in fact im shoutin foul if another teams just got a mahassive amd part drop

hmm check http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1553586&sku=B69-0475#


is tiger direct available in uk

 

[johnspack]

Thats what I was looking for! Cherry i7 chip, finally:

I see well over 4ghz in my future!
Yep, first try, already at 4 and stable:

Had no idea how easy DO oces, it just goes!!!!
Edit: I did increase vcore a bit after the shots,
but I'm still at well below 1.36v......

 

[bogmali]

Here is my second SR-2 build, will be operational this weekend.

 

[mstenholm]

Here is my second SR-2 build, will be operational this weekend.

http://img.techpowerup.org/111117/SR-21.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/111117/SR-22.jpg

Your will be a one man army untill somebody switch from WGC or somebody else build a 4P Interlagos.

Edit: 4 or 6 cores?

 

[bogmali]

Your will be a one man army untill somebody switch from WGC or somebody else build a 4P Interlagos.

Edit: 4 or 6 cores?

I still intend to fold for TPU and my downsizing is temporary. I know that BUCK has announced his intensions (I do not blame him for doing it) and unless the folding team dissolves, then I might find me a different project (or team).

CPU's = X5570 for now (Quads)

 

[mstenholm]

I still intend to fold for TPU and my downsizing is tempoarary. I know that BUCK has announced his intensions (I do not blame him for doing it) and unless the folding team dissolves, then I might find me a different project (or team).

CPU's = X5570 for now (Quads)

I intend to stick around as well. Just need one good job (I work as an consultant so money is not always hanging from a tree) to justify a 4P. I just spendt the last two pay checks on a new straw roof (part not the whole, thats ½ year income)

 

[johnspack]

Dam, would kill for an sr-2, that's a good reason for the 1st i7s to continue to fold. Too bad my i7 is going to be a waste....

 

[mstenholm]

Dam, would kill for an sr-2, that's a good reason for the 1st i7s to continue to fold. Too bad my i7 is going to be a waste....

It is not waste - now get a i970 and you will still do 35 kPPD on that rig on the CPU alone. Sure it was 62 kPPD half a year ago but still better energy wise then GPU folding. I do however doubt that CPU SMP on a i920-75 (quads) is as good as GPU folding (460/560 TI) on a P67 mobo, agian only considering PPD/W.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

My production will be down a lot this weekend as I will be @ a 3 day LAN with all 3 of my folding machines.

 

[hat]

I don't see why people are so upset over this -bigadv mess. What are we folding for, to help humanity or to watch our numbers grow? All these machines that won't make the cut for -bigadv anymore will still be able to help with the SMP client.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I don't see why people are so upset over this -bigadv mess. What are we folding for, to help humanity or to watch our numbers grow? All these machines that won't make the cut for -bigadv anymore will still be able to help with the SMP client.

Because points = work done. If you spent ~$2000 to get a certain number of points or to do a certain amount of work, wouldn't you be less than happy if the points for your investment was cut in half over a few months?

Stanford needs a dose of reality. What we, the contributors do for Stanford, is charity. How do you think it would go over if Goodwill came out with a policy stating that they would no longer take items over 2 years old?

Yea, I know, I need one of these:

 

[hat]

I can't agree with the amount of points you have being equal to the amount of work you've done. I think the bonuses and the way one type of work unit produces more PPD than the other type of work unit would offset that.

 

[theonedub]

For some people points are the main draw to folding- the competitive nature of points (which was intentional) makes folding an interesting benchmark that also has added medical research benefits. My point is that while many of us don't care too much about points, others don't have such altruistic intentions. Regardless of the intention, all contributions are welcome. Changes like this though will force some to reevaluate the folding and in the end that only hurts the main goal of the project.

 

[Athlonite]

Personally I think they should just scrap the points balarky and just go with WU's completed instead that'd take away any disparity between those running super high end folders and those just using a GPU or lower end CPU

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I can't agree with the amount of points you have being equal to the amount of work you've done. I think the bonuses and the way one type of work unit produces more PPD than the other type of work unit would offset that.

Essentially, Standford has said they will "pay" so many points for this much work, and with all of the SMP WU's, has said that the sooner you get it done, the more they are willing to "pay" Therefore, points = work done + time value of that work.

Changes like this though will force some to reevaluate the folding and in the end that only hurts the main goal of the project.

+1
I think they're throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Personally I think they should just scrap the points balarky and just go with WU's completed instead that'd take away any disparity between those running super high end folders and those just using a GPU or lower end CPU

Well then, the competition would be for the largest numbers of WU's. Uniprocessor clients and GPU2 would be all the rage as people try to crank up the number of WU's that they're getting. Pre-Fermi cards would suddenly rise in popularity. (my GTX460 takes 3 hours per WU but my 9600GSO's complete most of theirs in ~ 2 hours)

What Stanford has done is to swing the norm back to the GPU side. I expect to see more GPU farms in the future. GD70's anyone? This too has to hack off someone like BUCK who recently sold off a bunch of his GPU's (my guess) to concentrate even more on BA Folding.

 

[johnspack]

Well, I know my w3570 folds at 3.8ghz stable, so that's all I got to throw at it. I hope I get good smp bonus for it!

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

For some people points are the main draw to folding- the competitive nature of points (which was intentional) makes folding an interesting benchmark that also has added medical research benefits. My point is that while many of us don't care too much about points, others don't have such altruistic intentions. Regardless of the intention, all contributions are welcome. Changes like this though will force some to reevaluate the folding and in the end that only hurts the main goal of the project.

+1 thats exactly what i should have said im not overly hunting points but i like the group and competitive nature of it all it pass's a few hours and keeps my house warm and, bonus

plus theirs a very serious end result occuring due to everyones contributions, the answers get closer

What Stanford has done is to swing the norm back to the GPU side. I expect to see more GPU farms in the future. GD70's anyone? This too has to hack off someone like BUCK who recently sold off a bunch of his GPU's (my guess) to concentrate even more on BA Folding.

didnt i hear somewhere that the gpu2 clients demise was on the horizon at some point soon,ie they will stop provideing work servers and wu's forcing a fermi upgrade for some, im sure i read that on f@home too hmm

 

[bogmali]

I just listed my Opteron 4p setup on my F/S/T thread, PM me if anybody is interested.

 

[hat]

Thanks to Paulie, my numbers should be up. I should be getting a CPU cooler which I expect to absolve my issues with my E2140 rig.

 

[johnspack]

Grabbing a 16gb ram kit for my main box this month, so I have a spare kit for my folding box. Next, for xmas, I need a water cooling kit for a 1366 socket. Then I can spare my air cooler, which is sufficient for the w3570 to fold at 3.8. I really will need assistance on this, as I know nothing about water kits, and I'll probably have to make 2 or 3 payments if it's over 200 dollars. If anyone could help me with this, I'd really appreciate it.