Apple Working on Retina Display for Macbook Pro

[PVTCaboose1337]

Dell U2711 with 2560x1440 resolution, release date 11/30/2009. Cinema display release date 7/27/2010. Over 7 months that Dell was marketing 2560x1440 and Apple gets all the credit?

All about marketing. Xerox created much of what we use today as far as computer interfaces, and you think they only make copiers. Microsoft and Apple are credited with most of these achievements however. Advertising is the only way you can show the public a product, just building it does not make it appear magically on desks.

Regarding the retina display, how much pixel density is too much? I mean, I support this, but there is no reason to do this on such a small monitor. That, and we don't have anything better than 1080p to watch...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I'd buy a MBP to scrape up cat poo, the edge is nice and thin.

 

[Fx]

I don't hate them for this. I'm not with you?

I am saying, good for them for pushing past old boundaries

 

[n-ster]

I am saying, good for them for pushing past old boundaries

Yea Fx mean that usually people hate on Apple news, but how can you when they are pushing the boundaries we want them to push and actually listening to the people unlike the other companies who stick with 1080p

 

[OOZMAN]

I would be in PC Heaven if they brought out a 3200:2400 (16:12 ratio) display in 24-27". Now THAT would be a visual delight with near print quality. Meanwhile, a retina display Mac Air would make me buy one. I'm a rez pimp ya know!

16:12? you mean 3:4. Learn your prime numbers!

I dont think we need higher resolutions yet, 1. because the necessary graphics cards will cost ridiculous amounts of money and 2. My partner has an iphone 4 and all the time when im browsing the web with it, it renders the text way too small, its just annoying.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Yea Fx mean that usually people hate on Apple news, but how can you when they are pushing the boundaries we want them to push and actually listening to the people unlike the other companies who stick with 1080p

We hate on them because they are turds, and because if they did release a monitor with this kind of resolution, it would cost twice what any normal company would charge for it.

 

[qubit]

We hate on them because they are turds, and because if they did release a monitor with this kind of resolution, it would cost twice what any normal company would charge for it.

Damn and I thought I was bad!

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Sorry, but i am not a fan of apple crap.

 

[bear jesus]

This sounds like good news to me but not because of the apple product in question but because i assume this means whatever company is making the panel that they will have to ramp up production on higher res panels which i would assume in the future will help start pushing down the price of higher res monitors.

At the moment the price jump from 1920x1080 to 2560x1440 and above is just too much for me to seriously consider buying 3 but with higher demand for higher res panels i would hope there will be more options and better prices to come.

 

[Mega-Japan]

Anyone could make such screen ages ago. It's just that no one could market it but Apple with its die hard fans who buy anything regardless of price. It's a luxury not everyone have. Isn't computer industry just crap sometimes?

lol, I couldn't have said it better.

I know most people don't give 2 pickles about 3D, but I'm still waiting for my 2560x1440 3D 27"-30" Monitor :/...
Oh, and reason I haven't bought a tablet is because there isn't one with 1080p resolution yet. And unlike what I do for phone, I'm not planning on upgrading tablets yearly =).

 

[Completely Bonkers]

Regarding the retina display, how much pixel density is too much? I mean, I support this, but there is no reason to do this on such a small monitor. That, and we don't have anything better than 1080p to watch...

I know you know this, but for the sake of other readers, this is not about "watching movies" or youtube clips. This is about completely rewriting our reading experience using a laptop and/or desktop. It is much less tiring reading a book or the printed page than a computer screen. Even with IPS. By doubling resolutions we get to a dpi that is getting pretty close to newspaper, but still nowhere near what your printer can achieve.

YES I WANT to be able to WYSIWYG work, whether MS Word, PDFs, photos from my digital camera. I can quite happily read a full page of text on an 11" piece of paper, but NO, I cannot read a full page of text on an 11" computer screen. I don't necessarily want "more" on the page, just what is on the page needs to be clearer and more legible at small font sizes. With WQUXGA I could.

And the sooner this high pixel density gets onto the laptop, the sooner it will get to desktop monitors.

I find it rather sad and pathetic that the PC enthusiast community has to wait for Apple and Apple fans to bring this innovation to scale in the market! I am happy they exist to do this for us. Apple is the PC's NASA.

 

[Delta6326]

lol, I couldn't have said it better.

I know most people don't give 2 pickles about 3D, but I'm still waiting for my 2560x1440 3D 27"-30" Monitor :/...
Oh, and reason I haven't bought a tablet is because there isn't one with 1080p resolution yet. And unlike what I do for phone, I'm not planning on upgrading tablets yearly =).

Same here for the tablet part I can't wait Tegra 3 is coming it is sooo much better than Tegra 2

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/825956-REG/ASUS_TF201_B1_GR_32GB_Eee_Pad_Transformer.html

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

16:12? you mean 3:4. Learn your prime numbers!

You mean... Lowest Common Denominator or Lowest Term. A prime number is a natural number greater than 1 that has no positive divisors other than 1 and itself. 4 is not a prime number. So learn your mathematical definitions.

Not really a new resolution just hasn't been very cost effective to produce. Look at the difference between a 1920x1080 vs 1920x1200 vs 2560x1600 in price. Same Technology, just different display sizes. It all comes down to how many panels the manufacturer can produce. This is why a 2560x1600 panel is far more expensive. Less yield per run.

This will add a hefty sum to the price of the mac and I would imagine is an upgrade to the standard screen.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Sorry, but i am not a fan of apple crap.

This statement would be worth something if it was actually "crap". I thought for a time that the anti-Apple sentiment at places like TPU was akin to anti-console sentiment (which I surely share) but then I realized that the latter is actually acceptable because it's a subpar gaming experience. Whereas, at least to this day, the average Apple hater's feelings aren't really based at all on the merits and quality of the products themselves but on pre-conceived notions of things like price and a douchey, "more money than sense" user base (But nobody laughs at the purchase of a $750 GTX 580 "Classified"?).

Now there are the few like Mailman who have actually simply had a shitty experience with Macs due to hardware malfunctions and such but this is really not the usual case. And I think I can say that as I have supported them professionally along with PCs for almost 15 years. Apple products are so popular these days because they are good. Period. And doing cool stuff like the subject of this thread only strengthens that fact.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Apple products are so popular these days because they are good. Period. And doing cool stuff like the subject of this thread only strengthens that fact.

I have to disagree. They use the EXACT same hardware that a PC uses. The only difference is the OS and Case it comes in and I guess EFI vs BIOS...but even that is changing except on the PC end.

I agree that the Apple OS has some nice benefits.

Apple is pure marketing genius. Sell the same components in a PC, but in a pretty wrapper, mark the price way up and sell to a niche audience. I totally believe that apple sells to a specific type of person. Look at their ads. Lately I see a lot of emo looking kids wearing girl jeans with anime hair. Total Marketing Hype. They are amazing at it. Get the trendy kids on it and as they age they grow used to the OS. Next thing you know they are recommending it to friends and family for ease of use.

 

[qubit]

Apple is pure marketing genius.

And how long will that last without Jobs? I do wonder.

 

[Wile E]

We hate on them because they are turds, and because if they did release a monitor with this kind of resolution, it would cost twice what any normal company would charge for it.

Oh, you mean like how the 27" Apple Cinema Display is $999 and the Dell U2711 is $1099?

Yeah, they overcharge on some stuff, but not all.

Stop blindly hating stuff and have real, properly researched reasons to hate a company or product.

 

[OOZMAN]

You mean... Lowest Common Denominator or Lowest Term. A prime number is a natural number greater than 1 that has no positive divisors other than 1 and itself. 4 is not a prime number. So learn your mathematical definitions.

Not really a new resolution just hasn't been very cost effective to produce. Look at the difference between a 1920x1080 vs 1920x1200 vs 2560x1600 in price. Same Technology, just different display sizes. It all comes down to how many panels the manufacturer can produce. This is why a 2560x1600 panel is far more expensive. Less yield per run.

This will add a hefty sum to the price of the mac and I would imagine is an upgrade to the standard screen.

LCD! Of course, how silly of me!

 

[JustaTinkerer]

Everything else like what?

Over priced under performing "pretty" equipment, hyped up the wazoo.

Taking 20%+ from artists just so it can get put on itunes

The AppleInsider, O'Grady's PowerPage, and Think Secret farce

Shipping iPods containing a worm and then and then saying , and I quote "As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses"

I Could go on and on about why I don't like them.

Fact is I'm a PC

 

[pr0n Inspector]

Wow, what a biased article. Going from 480x320 to 960x640 on the iPhone is NOT the same as going from 1280x800 to 2880x1800 (!?). You can't just keep quadrupling pixel density with the wave of a magic wand, 2880x1800 is an order of magnitude more pixels than 960x640.

Also this statement is completely false, "2560 x 1440 pixels in 27-inch monitors (Apple was first to market with that density)." Dell U2711 with 2560x1440 resolution, release date 11/30/2009. Cinema display release date 7/27/2010. Over 7 months that Dell was marketing 2560x1440 and Apple gets all the credit?

The 2560x1440 27-inch Apple iMac was released in October 2009, which can be used as a mini-displayport display(Target Display mode).

 

[BeepBeep2]

I would be in PC Heaven if they brought out a 3200:2400 (16:12 ratio) display in 24-27". Now THAT would be a visual delight with near print quality. Meanwhile, a retina display Mac Air would make me buy one. I'm a rez pimp ya know!

You know, that ratio is called 4:3 right?

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Will Apple still be using Intel Integrated HD2000/3000 graphics in the new gen Macbook Pros or upgrade them to "top of the line" (3 years old) HD5770M like the top of the line HD5770 in their $2500 Mac Pros?

I was in an Apple Store at the local mall laughing at people the other day...got thrown out.

 

[pr0n Inspector]

You know, that ratio is called 4:3 right?

...
Will Apple still be using Intel Integrated HD2000/3000 graphics in the new gen Macbook Pros or upgrade them to "top of the line" (3 years old) HD5770M like the top of the line HD5770 in their $2500 Mac Pros?

I was in an Apple Store at the local mall laughing at people the other day...got thrown out.

Sounded like something a 13-yo would do.

 

[OOZMAN]

Sounded like something a 13-yo would do.

Sounds like something a mac fanboy would say.

 

[qubit]

I was in an Apple Store at the local mall laughing at people the other day...got thrown out.

Now that is a cheeky naughty thing to do, lol, but I can understand your sentiment.

 

[pr0n Inspector]

Sounds like something a mac fanboy would say.

So you think it's completely normal for a grown up to just walk into a store he doesn't like and start taunting customers? And only a Macintosh fanboy would find this immature and retarded? Are you 13 years old? Do you think Jackass is cool?