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System Name The Dove Box Rev 3.0
Processor i7 8700k @ 4.7GHz
Motherboard Asus Maximus X APEX
Cooling Custom water loop
Memory 16GB 3600 MHz DDR4
Video Card(s) 2x MSI 780 Ti's in SLI
Storage 500GB Samsung 850 PCIe SSD, 4TB
Display(s) 27" Asus 144Hz
Case Enermax Fulmo GT
Audio Device(s) ON BOARD FTW
Power Supply Corsair 1200W
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Win 10 64x
Open Task Manager and revel in the Performance tab.

Mmmmmmm we'll do it together...

 

phill

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System Name Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s) Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s) 3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse Corsair thingy
Keyboard Razer something or other....
VR HMD No headset yet
Software Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

JrRacinFan

Served 5k and counting ...
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Processor Ryzen 7900x3d
Motherboard AsRock B650E Steel Legend
Cooling Custom Water 1x420
Memory 32GB T-Force Deltas
Video Card(s) PowerColor 7900 XTX Liquid Devil
Storage 20+ TB
Display(s) Sammy 49" 5k Ultrawide
Case Tt CTE 600 Snow Edition
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA 1200W P2
Mouse Corsair M65 RGB Elite White
Keyboard Corsair K65 Mini
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores Avermedia Live HD2
@Jetster

What software is that in your pic!?
 
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System Name Money Hole
Processor Core i7 970
Motherboard Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Cooling Noctua UH-D14
Memory 2133Mhz 12GB (3x4GB) Mushkin 998991
Video Card(s) Sapphire Tri-X OC R9 290X
Storage Samsung 1TB 850 Evo
Display(s) 3x Acer KG240A 144hz
Case CM HAF 932
Audio Device(s) ADI (onboard)
Power Supply Enermax Revolution 85+ 1050w
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Logitech G710+
Software Windows 10 Professional x64

SaZ

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Location
Italy
System Name SGC K2 -K1
Processor Intel 4790K -Intel Q9650
Motherboard Asus Z97-WS- Asus P5E64WS EVO X48
Cooling SGC Prototype-EK 240 HF+ 2x GTX295 single pcb Aquacomputer
Memory Mushkin Redline- Corsair dominator 8GB 1600MHZ
Video Card(s) Asus GTX980 DC2OC -2x Asus ENGTX295 QuadSli with DifferentSLiAuto v1.1
Storage Corsair Force GS240GB(Games+Programs)+Seagate 2TB(Storage)-OCZ Vertex 3 60GB(OS)
Display(s) 2X Samsung Syncamster P2250+Acer V243H - Acer X193w
Case Corsair 900D-Buffetti...a 13 years old case
Audio Device(s) Integrated sound card is enough for both
Power Supply Corsair TX750M-Coolermaster 650W
Mouse Logitech G400
Keyboard Logitech G110
Software Win 7 Ultimate X64
Benchmark Scores K1 score Unigine Heaven dx10 2731 pts 3DMark Vantage (CPU@4GHZ-RAM@7-8-8-24) 23417 pts
Here's the pics :)

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6631/img9841x.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6986/img9842b.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6070/img9844a.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6859/img9845i.jpg

I actually really like the blue, so I think I might have to see if I can source some lights or something.. I'm thinking of trying to get the two 120mm fans mounted somehow, but I'm not sure how.. I'd like to get the sides put on but with the Adaptec cards in the system and how hot they get without a fan I need something there to push air over it.. I might also try and invest in a ram fan as well like I have on the 762 build :)
I've also managed to get the rig stable with less Vcore and VTT which I'm really pleased with :) Here's a pic:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3008/45ghzlinxstable20run.png

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/7724/crysisbenchmarkresultsh.png

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/9342/avptest44ghznewdrivers.png

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5274/avptest44ghznewdrivers8.png

But for now, its gaming time :D

:twitch:WoW:twitch:

the gtx 580s are amazing
 
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Processor 2600k @ 4.2 ghz
Motherboard MSI Z77 MPower
Cooling Thermalright ultra extreme 120 rev.C w/noctua NF-S12B push/pull
Memory 16gb corsair vengeance 2400 c11 @1.5 v/
Video Card(s) GB gtx670 WF3x sli @1080/1372/6660(core/boost/mem)
Storage 2x samsung 850evo 250gb raid 0 ,2tb wdblack, 3TB wd purple
Display(s) Samsung Syncmaster P2770FH, asus VH242t/19" lg 1440x900
Case fractal design r4
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX1050
Mouse Razer abyssus
Keyboard corsair k70
Software Windows 10 pro x64
i'm sad:(

I'm sad:(
my ssd gone bad yesterday:(
now i have my OS on a WD green 1tb 32mb drive and it's slow , the response sucks compared to a ssd

R.I.P. Corsair Force 3 120GB , it's RMA time:p
 

SaZ

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System Name SGC K2 -K1
Processor Intel 4790K -Intel Q9650
Motherboard Asus Z97-WS- Asus P5E64WS EVO X48
Cooling SGC Prototype-EK 240 HF+ 2x GTX295 single pcb Aquacomputer
Memory Mushkin Redline- Corsair dominator 8GB 1600MHZ
Video Card(s) Asus GTX980 DC2OC -2x Asus ENGTX295 QuadSli with DifferentSLiAuto v1.1
Storage Corsair Force GS240GB(Games+Programs)+Seagate 2TB(Storage)-OCZ Vertex 3 60GB(OS)
Display(s) 2X Samsung Syncamster P2250+Acer V243H - Acer X193w
Case Corsair 900D-Buffetti...a 13 years old case
Audio Device(s) Integrated sound card is enough for both
Power Supply Corsair TX750M-Coolermaster 650W
Mouse Logitech G400
Keyboard Logitech G110
Software Win 7 Ultimate X64
Benchmark Scores K1 score Unigine Heaven dx10 2731 pts 3DMark Vantage (CPU@4GHZ-RAM@7-8-8-24) 23417 pts
I'm sad:(
my ssd gone bad yesterday:(
now i have my OS on a WD green 1tb 32mb drive and it's slow , the response sucks compared to a ssd

R.I.P. Corsair Force 3 120GB , it's RMA time:p


What happened to ur ssd:cry:? I need to know because i have the ssd too...
 
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System Name Bones Beast
Processor Intel Core i7 4770k@4.5ghz
Motherboard ASROCK Extreme 3 Z87
Cooling Corsair H100 4x120mm fans!
Memory 2x4gigs Corsair Vengance 2400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX R9 290 @1151/1350/Corsair H55
Storage Samsung 120gig 840/OCZ Vector 120gig SSD/500gig SG/320
Display(s) Samsung S27A950D 27in 3D 120hz monitor
Case NZXT S340
Audio Device(s) Asus Zonar d1/Z506 Speakers
Power Supply Coolermaster GX750watt PSU
Software Windows 10 64bit
LOL now im scared, i have the 60g version of the Force 3! just got it few mths ago i think!
 

phill

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Processor Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s) Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s) 3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse Corsair thingy
Keyboard Razer something or other....
VR HMD No headset yet
Software Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(
:twitch:WoW:twitch:

the gtx 580s are amazing

They definitely aren't a bad card :) I'm wondering about putting all 3 in the 762 rig or whether or not I should just get three new cards like he 7970's or Nvidia's latest.. But at the moment first thing that comes first is my baby due September... I have to make sure I have some spare money for when that comes!! :toast: :eek:
 
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Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 rev4 w/ Ryzen offset mount
Memory G.SKill Ripjaws V 2x16GB DDR4 3600
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 4070 12GB Dual
Storage WD Black SN850X 2TB Gen4, Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB , 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD sata,
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cleanup cleanup :)


 
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Memory 32GB GSkill TridentZ Neo DDR4-4000 CL18-22-22-42
Video Card(s) MSI Ventus 2x Geforce RTX 3070
Storage 1TB MX300 M.2 OS + Games, + cloud mostly
Display(s) Samsung 40" 4k (TV)
Case Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic EVO Black
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System Name gaming system
Processor 2600k @ 4.2 ghz
Motherboard MSI Z77 MPower
Cooling Thermalright ultra extreme 120 rev.C w/noctua NF-S12B push/pull
Memory 16gb corsair vengeance 2400 c11 @1.5 v/
Video Card(s) GB gtx670 WF3x sli @1080/1372/6660(core/boost/mem)
Storage 2x samsung 850evo 250gb raid 0 ,2tb wdblack, 3TB wd purple
Display(s) Samsung Syncmaster P2770FH, asus VH242t/19" lg 1440x900
Case fractal design r4
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX1050
Mouse Razer abyssus
Keyboard corsair k70
Software Windows 10 pro x64
What happened to ur ssd:cry:? I need to know because i have the ssd too...

dunno installed a game and pc froze, bootmgr was gone, did reinstalled but froze/failed when was installing os, now it fails to finish ATTO

 

emmanuelbriceno

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Cooling EVGA Superclock Cooler
Memory 8GB Patriot Sector 5 1600Mhz CAS 9
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 6950 2GB CrossFire
Storage Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB
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Hi to all, new in the forum.

This is my rig, specs in my profile.



 

t_ski

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Cooling Nickel-plated EK Supremacy EVO, D5 with XSPC Bayres & BIX Quad Radiator
Memory 4 x 8GB EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3200
Video Card(s) EVGA 1080 SuperClocked
Storage Samsung 950 Pro 256GB m.2 SSD + 480GB Sandisk storage SSD
Display(s) Three Asus 24" VW246H LCD's
Case Silverstone TJ07
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair AX1200
Keyboard Corsair K95
Software Windows 10 x64 Pro
so what's the verdict? if you point all the fans on one side panel outward does it hover or not?

No, that's not my PC - just a mod I saw previously.
 
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Processor 2600k @ 4.2 ghz
Motherboard MSI Z77 MPower
Cooling Thermalright ultra extreme 120 rev.C w/noctua NF-S12B push/pull
Memory 16gb corsair vengeance 2400 c11 @1.5 v/
Video Card(s) GB gtx670 WF3x sli @1080/1372/6660(core/boost/mem)
Storage 2x samsung 850evo 250gb raid 0 ,2tb wdblack, 3TB wd purple
Display(s) Samsung Syncmaster P2770FH, asus VH242t/19" lg 1440x900
Case fractal design r4
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX1050
Mouse Razer abyssus
Keyboard corsair k70
Software Windows 10 pro x64
lol crappy old laptop hdd i got:p


and this is a pic of my ssd that's still can be accesed but always fails
 

Norton

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Motherboard Asrock X570 Extreme4- MSI X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi- MSI B450M Bazooka Max and etc...
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S (dual fan)- EK 360 AIO with push/pull fans- Corsair H115i RGB Pro XT and etc...
Memory 2x16GB GSkill FlareX 3200/c14- 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3600/c16- 2x16GB Team 3600/c18 and etc..
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Mouse G300s
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Benchmark Scores Why sit on the Bench when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!

cadaveca

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Getting my AMD rig up and running in my spare time. Gotta figure which of my 3 chips to use, FX-4100, 1090T, or 1100T, when what I really want, is FX-8150!

Also trying to pick out which rma kit I'm gonna use...i think this kit fits with the colour scheme the best...

 
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System Name The SwagMachine / The Sister
Processor Core i5 3570K @5.2ghz 1.3V/ 1100T
Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V / ASUS M5A99X EVO
Cooling Phanteks PH TC14PE / Corsair H40
Memory M379B5273DH0-YK0 2X4GB + PVI316G213C1QK 2X4GB / 2x4GB Patriot 2133
Video Card(s) PNY 780Ti /Windforce 7950
Storage 2xSamsung 840 EVO 250gb+WD10EZEX + WD30EZRX/ 1x WD1500 Black
Display(s) AOC Q2963PM+Acer S200HL / Acer S200L+ LG 22LD350
Case Fractal Define R4 / NZXT Trinity
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DG / Asus Xonar DG
Power Supply Seasonic 750X / ROSEWILL RG630-S12 630W R
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma / Roccat Kone+
Keyboard Razer Blackwidow 2013 Stealth / Roccat Isku
Software Windows 8.1 Pro / Windows 7 Ultimate
Benchmark Scores one time I scored a 3 on 3dmark 11
Getting my AMD rig up and running in my spare time. Gotta figure which of my 3 chips to use, FX-4100, 1090T, or 1100T, when what I really want, is FX-8150!

Also trying to pick out which rma kit I'm gonna use...i think this kit fits with the colour scheme the best...

http://img.techpowerup.org/120224/015.jpg

I say ripjaws, I've just always loved how they look
 

cadaveca

My name is Dave
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I say ripjaws, I've just always loved how they look

Looks are one thing...clocking and best performance are another. Fortunately, the AMD rig has all my own, and has nothing to do with reviews at all, so I can take my time trying parts and get the best possible.

Personally, I don't have much in the way of favorites in ram..I kinda prefer Corsair, because they identify stick revisions(making purhcasing for lcocking easier), but G.Skill makes some damn good stuff that I really like too.
 
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Processor Intel Core i9 9900K @ 4.9GHz (1.18V)
Motherboard ASUS TUF Z390 PRO-GAMING
Cooling Custom Full Loop w/EKWB & Swiftech components
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz (C15)
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 SeaHawk X EK @ 2.15GHz/5.5GHz
Storage Samsung 970 EVO+ (2x500GB) + Toshiba X300 (4TB)
Display(s) LG 29UM65-P (2560x1080 @ 75 Hz)
Case Thermaltake Core V51
Audio Device(s) Razer Kraken 7.1 & Scarlett 2i4 w/M-AUDIO BX5-D2
Power Supply Corsair RM750 (ver. 2019)
Mouse Logitech G700s
Keyboard Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2
Software MacOS 10.13.6 "High Sierra" & Windows 10 Pro x64
Getting my AMD rig up and running in my spare time. Gotta figure which of my 3 chips to use, FX-4100, 1090T, or 1100T, when what I really want, is FX-8150!

Also trying to pick out which rma kit I'm gonna use...i think this kit fits with the colour scheme the best...

http://img.techpowerup.org/120224/015.jpg

Hey cadaveca, i noticed in your rig (in this and previous pics) that you're cooling the CPU with a Corsair Kit for watercooling, how are they performing with the single kit you own? Good performance, finishing and no leaks?

I'm thinking in buying one of those for my cousin's future rig cause he's thinking in buying a good air disipator and i'd prefer that he takes a solution like that one, i also examined in the past the Swiftech kits but these days i'm seeing how other brands are also joining the "All-Done Watercooling", what do you can tell me?

Thanks! :toast:
 

cadaveca

My name is Dave
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That cooler in that pic is actually an Asetek unit made specifically for AMD. I do have the COrsair H50, H70, and H100, and I am pretty happy with all of them.

For SKT 1155, H70/H80 or the Antec 920 are al lviable options for high overclocks, but on AMD and SKT 2011, the amount of power they consume and then shed in heat is very nearly too much for even the H100. For AMD or SKT 2011, I suggest something like the Swiftech kits. Heck, I'd like one myself to use in my review testing rig.
 

brandonwh64

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How hard is it to install a side panel window kit and which ones are the best kits to buy? Im very good with a jig saw but I do not know which kit to buy.
 

Cold Storm

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Processor AMD 1700x
Motherboard AsRork x370 Taichi
Cooling EK Custom Loop - CPU only
Memory 32gb G-Skill Trident Z
Video Card(s) EVGA 1080 Superclock 2
Storage Too Many
Display(s) Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24" & LG 32 IPS
Case Cooler Master Cosmos II
Power Supply Cooler Master V1000
Mouse SteelSeries Rival 500
Software Win10 Pro
Benchmark Scores i5 750 4.62ghz pi runs // Evga FTW p55
How hard is it to install a side panel window kit and which ones are the best kits to buy? Im very good with a jig saw but I do not know which kit to buy.

PM inbound
 
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System Name The SwagMachine / The Sister
Processor Core i5 3570K @5.2ghz 1.3V/ 1100T
Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V / ASUS M5A99X EVO
Cooling Phanteks PH TC14PE / Corsair H40
Memory M379B5273DH0-YK0 2X4GB + PVI316G213C1QK 2X4GB / 2x4GB Patriot 2133
Video Card(s) PNY 780Ti /Windforce 7950
Storage 2xSamsung 840 EVO 250gb+WD10EZEX + WD30EZRX/ 1x WD1500 Black
Display(s) AOC Q2963PM+Acer S200HL / Acer S200L+ LG 22LD350
Case Fractal Define R4 / NZXT Trinity
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DG / Asus Xonar DG
Power Supply Seasonic 750X / ROSEWILL RG630-S12 630W R
Mouse Razer Deathadder Chroma / Roccat Kone+
Keyboard Razer Blackwidow 2013 Stealth / Roccat Isku
Software Windows 8.1 Pro / Windows 7 Ultimate
Benchmark Scores one time I scored a 3 on 3dmark 11
How hard is it to install a side panel window kit and which ones are the best kits to buy? Im very good with a jig saw but I do not know which kit to buy.

If you find a good one, tell me :) I'm tired of all my work in my HAF going to waste
 
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