AMD FX "Vishera" Processor Pricing Revealed

[cdawall]

All I wanna know is "N" or "T" pcb.

That would be an N.



PCP not PCB buddy

 

[os2wiz]

All I wanna know is "N" or "T" pcb.

Could you please relate to me which variation of peyote or enhanced MaryJane you are using.

 

[cadaveca]

Could you please relate to me which variation of peyote or enhanced MaryJane you are using.

meh. Just some thing I've been following for oh...10 years or so. Doesn't seem to matter with all CPUs, but AMD outs two PCBs currently that I know of, one marked witth a "T", and one marked with an "N".

Does it really matter? To normal people, no.


To those that search for the "golden egg" chips out in the wild for extreme clocking, minute differences in CPU manufacturing, including dates and such things, can seem to be important.

If AMD is smart, I personally believe they stand to benefit from opening up informationally a bit about their binning process, or even salting certain "batches" as needed.


Alas, I'd like to partake in discussion of the topic at hand, but cannot, so there ya go.

 

[os2wiz]

meh. Just some thing I've been following for oh...10 years or so. Doesn't seem to matter with all CPUs, but AMD outs two PCBs currently that I know of, one marked witth a "T", and one marked with an "N".

Does it really matter? To normal people, no.


To those that search for the "golden egg" chips out in the wild for extreme clocking, minute differences in CPU manufacturing, including dates and such things, can seem to be important.

If AMD is smart, I personally believe they stand to benefit from opening up informationally a bit about their binning process, or even salting certain "batches" as needed.


Alas, I'd like to partake in discussion of the topic at hand, but cannot, so there ya go.

NDA no doubt!

 

[eidairaman1]

It was the Same during the Athlon XP days too, after week 39 of 2003 Desktop CPUs were being locked, Mobile chips were the way to go for most part. Fastest AXP Chips clocked to 2.8-3.0GHz under high voltage, no LN2 Used either

meh. Just some thing I've been following for oh...10 years or so. Doesn't seem to matter with all CPUs, but AMD outs two PCBs currently that I know of, one marked witth a "T", and one marked with an "N".

Does it really matter? To normal people, no.


To those that search for the "golden egg" chips out in the wild for extreme clocking, minute differences in CPU manufacturing, including dates and such things, can seem to be important.

If AMD is smart, I personally believe they stand to benefit from opening up informationally a bit about their binning process, or even salting certain "batches" as needed.


Alas, I'd like to partake in discussion of the topic at hand, but cannot, so there ya go.

 

[Super XP]

Vishera prices have gone down?
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi?order_id=!ORDERID!&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=HKBOX

If this is true, why did AMD drop the prices B4 the release? Or these were always the price and the original leak was overpriced for early adopters.

 

[Covert_Death]

Vishera prices have gone down?
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi?order_id=!ORDERID!&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=HKBOX

If this is true, why did AMD drop the prices B4 the release? Or these were always the price and the original leak was overpriced for early adopters.

208 for the 8350..... now we are talking

 

[Horrux]

Aren't we just a few days out from Piledriver release? Anyone seen any benchies?

Also... This doesn't bode too too well: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2217049/amd-is-preparing-to-lay-off-thousands

 

[os2wiz]

Vishera prices have gone down?
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi?order_id=!ORDERID!&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=HKBOX

If this is true, why did AMD drop the prices B4 the release? Or these were always the price and the original leak was overpriced for early adopters.

AMD has nothing to do with pre-order pricing. Most of the places taking pre-orders are scalping their customers. I guess BLT.com decided they could make money the honest way. This is nothing new. The retailers did it with Bulldozer also. Though the p[rice at bltcom is way lower then the price Bulldozer was at even 3 months after product availability. I think AMD knew they could not get away with selling Vishera at prices above what a Intel I5 3570 was going for when its performance overall will be slightly below that level. It is priced at the level of a I-5 2500k which is a good spot for it. Overall it performs a little better than I-5 2500k in my opinion.

 

[suraswami]

Vishera prices have gone down?
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi?order_id=!ORDERID!&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=HKBOX

If this is true, why did AMD drop the prices B4 the release? Or these were always the price and the original leak was overpriced for early adopters.

hmm 8320 looks attractive for $182.

hopefully there is BF sale @ Frys or MC for under $100 (I would rather hope it's at MC, Frys is crap these days).

 

[Super XP]

AMD has nothing to do with pre-order pricing. Most of the places taking pre-orders are scalping their customers. I guess BLT.com decided they could make money the honest way. This is nothing new. The retailers did it with Bulldozer also. Though the p[rice at bltcom is way lower then the price Bulldozer was at even 3 months after product availability. I think AMD knew they could not get away with selling Vishera at prices above what a Intel I5 3570 was going for when its performance overall will be slightly below that level. It is priced at the level of a I-5 2500k which is a good spot for it. Overall it performs a little better than I-5 2500k in my opinion.

Yes but so long as AMD is making a profit. If they sell these at the right price, they will easily gain market share. Intel may have a faster product, but AMD's parts run just as good. This is where AMD needs to fight with.

 

[os2wiz]

Yes but so long as AMD is making a profit. If they sell these at the right price, they will easily gain market share. Intel may have a faster product, but AMD's parts run just as good. This is where AMD needs to fight with.

You are absolutely right. They will have a thin margin on this product though. It would have been more gravy for them with a .28nm fabrication process.

 

[eidairaman1]

AMD has nothing to do with pre-order pricing. Most of the places taking pre-orders are scalping their customers. I guess BLT.com decided they could make money the honest way. This is nothing new. The retailers did it with Bulldozer also. Though the p[rice at bltcom is way lower then the price Bulldozer was at even 3 months after product availability. I think AMD knew they could not get away with selling Vishera at prices above what a Intel I5 3570 was going for when its performance overall will be slightly below that level. It is priced at the level of a I-5 2500k which is a good spot for it. Overall it performs a little better than I-5 2500k in my opinion.

reason MSRP is there from AMD is so AMD makes a profit, Retailers/etailers tag on additional unit pricing to make a profit themselves, hey they have to be able to otherwise they go out of business then

 

[os2wiz]

reason MSRP is there from AMD is so AMD makes a profit, Retailers/etailers tag on additional unit pricing to make a profit themselves, hey they have to be able to otherwise they go out of business then

MSRP is what most retailers sell the item at it usually provides about 15-20% profit margin for the retailer.

 

[Horrux]

I know this is about steamroller, but wasn't piledriver supposed to be released today?

 

[NC37]

Thought I caught somewhere it was held off till the 23rd.

 

[Super XP]

Thought I caught somewhere it was held off till the 23rd.

Yes you are correct. These delays do really suck though.

 

[os2wiz]

Yes you are correct. These delays do really suck though.

I do not think that was a delay date. AMD never actually officially announced the launch date.
But I have heard October 23 for the past month with others claiming the 16th but with no credible proof of their claim.

 

[os2wiz]

I truly believe this pricing , if it allows some profit, will be great for AMD getting market share. Very good strategy if they can push the chip. I do hope they have a large enough budget to get the word out.

 

[eidairaman1]

I truly believe this pricing , if it allows some profit, will be great for AMD getting market share. Very good strategy if they can push the chip. I do hope they have a large enough budget to get the word out.

this will be really pushed to OEMs, APUs too

 

[Super XP]

I do not think that was a delay date. AMD never actually officially announced the launch date.
But I have heard October 23 for the past month with others claiming the 16th but with no credible proof of their claim.

Originally Piledriver was suppose to be released in Q3 2012, but was pushed back to Q4 2012. But that was a while back. Things have changed

 

[os2wiz]

Originally Piledriver was suppose to be released in Q3 2012, but was pushed back to Q4 2012. But that was a while back. Things have changed

Yes of course. I was referring to in the past 2 months AMD never publicly stated a launch date, though it appears it will be this Tuesday the 23rd.

 

[Horrux]

AMD's secrecy makes me nervous. Some people say Vishera will work well with Windows 8, but then there is this.

 

[eidairaman1]

AMD's secrecy makes me nervous. Some people say Vishera will work well with Windows 8, but then there is this.

its the UI that is getting alot of people, making most not want to switch.

 

[Horrux]

its the UI that is getting alot of people, making most not want to switch.

You can read too, nice.