AMD FX OC'ers Club

[Norton]

u guys make me really nosy about that "T" & "N" thingy
is there something i can do to squeeze out more Info besides cpu-z delivers ?

Ditto- making me want to pull the side cover off of my FX-8350 rig to see if I have a T or N chip.. hopefully I can see it w/o pulling the cooler off.

Mine does 4.4Ghz with only a multi change to 22x and no other changes

 

[Irony]

Lol, now I wanna pull my cooler and see. I'm pretty sure I can't see anything with the giant noctua still on there. And I'm out of thermal paste; dangit. I don't know my batch number either forgot to look when I popped it in.

 

[n0tiert]

Ditto- making me want to pull the side cover off of my FX-8350 rig to see if I have a T or N chip.. hopefully I can see it w/o pulling the cooler off.

Mine does 4.4Ghz with only a multi change to 22x and no other changes

Lol, now I wanna pull my cooler and see. I'm pretty sure I can't see anything with the giant noctua still on there. And I'm out of thermal paste; dangit. I don't know my batch number either forgot to look when I popped it in.

Guys u've been to horny pop that CPU in the mobo , make pictures first

 

[Norton]

Guys u've been to horny pop that CPU in the mobo , make pictures first

Hardware is meant to be run not to pose for the camera...... translation- oops I forgot!

 

[n0tiert]

running ALLBenchmark 1.0 Beta21 with AMD FX-8150@4GHz

3DMARK Professional 1.0 with AMD FX-8150@4GHz

 

[n0tiert]

ok here are the amd FX-8350@4GHz Results:

HD7950
Core 1GHz
MEM 1375MHz

you can see some performance increase over 8150@4GHz

 

[Durvelle27]

Just bought a FX 8320 so benchmarks coming soon

 

[d1nky]

ok here are the amd FX-8350@4GHz Results:

HD7950
Core 1GHz
MEM 1375MHz

http://img.techpowerup.org/130228/Allbenchmark_FX-8350@4GHZ_7950@1GHzCore_1375MHz@RAM.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/130228/3dmark_fx-8350@4GHz.png

http://img.techpowerup.org/130228/cinebench11_5_CPU_fx-8350@4GHz.png

you can see some performance increase over 8150@4GHz

I had similar 3dmark results with my fx4100 lol

 

[Mathragh]

Nice! quite a difference!

 

[n0tiert]

got it stable @4,4GHz 1.40Volt

the mainboard or cpu is kinda bitchy on overclock past 4,4Ghz
if i was going past 4,4Ghz it alway crashed while doing physik tests

 

[os2wiz]

I had similar 3dmark results with my fx4100 lol

Did you post recently on over clock.net FX owner's club? I will have to check it out because I remember you saying something off the wall there about the CPU capability being inadequate in some respect and your analysis was totally off. If I got the wrong guy accept my apology.

 

[d1nky]

Did you post recently on over clock.net FX owner's club? I will have to check it out because I remember you saying something off the wall there about the CPU capability being inadequate in some respect and your analysis was totally off. If I got the wrong guy accept my apology.

I was partly being sarcastic with what I just posted. and I thought you looked familiar. and no I tend not to make judgements upon hardware due to my lack of experience of such! I think you even gave me advice on a graphics card or cpu to purchase.

 

[os2wiz]

I was partly being sarcastic with what I just posted. and I thought you looked familiar. and no I tend not to make judgements upon hardware due to my lack of experience of such! I think you even gave me advice on a graphics card or cpu to purchase.

Your error was stating that in gaming the FX CPUs would not be octoultilized as no games support it. That is absolutely incorrect. Battle Field III, Hit Man, Sleeping Dogs, Crisis 3, and a whole host of other new games support 8 cores.

 

[d1nky]

I might start a thread asking this question because ive been told off many a time for mentioning games using 8 cores and that its wasted.......im not sure if im allowed to quote from another thread but here it is

''Those 2 extra cores over the FX6300 cost a lot and won't be much use unless your going to do 3D rendering/video converting but even while idling they'll eat power and produce heat. As for being future proof YEAAAAH No games are a still mostly 2 core and improving really really slowy look at Skyrim that game is almost entirely single core. The only game I can think of that use more than 4 cores properly is BF3 and that loads each core 30-40% on an FX 8350 so on yours you'd get 40-53% load per core which is perfectly okay. Most games get usage like this:
core 0: 70-95%
core 1: 10-40%
core 2: 0-40%
core 3: 0-40%
core 4: 0%
core 5: 0%
core 6: 0%
core 7: 0%
However if you have the money and cooling the FX8350 is the better chip just not the most cost effective choice''

so who do I believe? and I did google it before writing that ocn btw...and I think we're generalising to most games?

 

[os2wiz]

I might start a thread asking this question because ive been told off many a time for mentioning games using 8 cores and that its wasted.......im not sure if im allowed to quote from another thread but here it is

''Those 2 extra cores over the FX6300 cost a lot and won't be much use unless your going to do 3D rendering/video converting but even while idling they'll eat power and produce heat. As for being future proof YEAAAAH No games are a still mostly 2 core and improving really really slowy look at Skyrim that game is almost entirely single core. The only game I can think of that use more than 4 cores properly is BF3 and that loads each core 30-40% on an FX 8350 so on yours you'd get 40-53% load per core which is perfectly okay. Most games get usage like this:
core 0: 70-95%
core 1: 10-40%
core 2: 0-40%
core 3: 0-40%
core 4: 0%
core 5: 0%
core 6: 0%
core 7: 0%
However if you have the money and cooling the FX8350 is the better chip just not the most cost effective choice''

so who do I believe? and I did google it before writing that ocn btw...and I think we're generalising to most games?

The key here when they say most games it is most old games. Of the games released in the past 6 moths most of the popular ones give 8 core support. It will only get better nw that PS4 has an 8 core AMD processor under the hood and all ports from PS4 will therefore give 8 core support. The X Box is another that will give 8 core support.

 

[d1nky]

aaahhh.... so what ive learnt from this and ill stick to this whenever questioned, recent games are able to utilise 8 cores (because if they required 8 then obviously 2,4 and 6 wouldn't work), so when people say 'don't waste the money, theres no such thing as 8 core gaming or ''future proofing'' ill ignore such, and like you said with the consoles of tomorrow being 8 core, itll manifest into PC gaming. And by 'most' we're talking AAA titles with bigger engine sizes of the last several months.


edit: to show my fx 3dmark result isn't toooo far behind, although I had massive throttling and its a four core.

http://www.3dmark.com/is/214306
http://www.3dmark.com/cg/193940
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/197909

 

[os2wiz]

aaahhh.... so what ive learnt from this and ill stick to this whenever questioned, recent games are able to utilise 8 cores (because if they required 8 then obviously 2,4 and 6 wouldn't work), so when people say 'don't waste the money, theres no such thing as 8 core gaming or ''future proofing'' ill ignore such, and like you said with the consoles of tomorrow being 8 core, itll manifest into PC gaming. And by 'most' we're talking AAA titles with bigger engine sizes of the last several months.

No sweat. I have made more than my share of errors and misconceptions here and elsewhere. We all live and learn. When we stop learning then it is time to die. Enjoy your new rig. Supposed to be a refresh of Vishera sometime near the end of June. There might be an FX 8370 at a higher clock speed. Possibly that thermal mesh that was supposed to be in the current Visheras, but never made it in , may be in this next refresh. That would aid thermals and would be welcome.

 

[Super XP]

u guys make me really nosy about that "T" & "N" thingy
is there something i can do to squeeze out more Info besides cpu-z delivers ?

Too much work to pull my H100 off the CPU. But for me anyway, I got the bus speed at 277 or something close. Never could do this B4 with other CPU's.

 

[os2wiz]

Too much work to pull my H100 off the CPU. But for me anyway, I got the bus speed at 277 or something close. Never could do this B4 with other CPU's.

So you have been over clocking the front side bus. Must have gotten some nice benchmarks at 277.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I want in. What is the average oc on the 8150 with stock voltage?

 

[Durvelle27]

I want in. What is the average oc on the 8150 with stock voltage?

hard to say as some 8150s don't have the same stock voltages

 

[Alcpone]

So i'm upto 4.3Ghz atm with 1.30v, I have noticed it goes upto 1.35 in aida64 under stress testing but it's rock solid so i'm happy enough. Still waiting on the mosfets heatsinks coming from china, but shouldn't be much longer now on those so will push it harder then. Still cant work out how the cores would be cooler than the cpu itself though? Am I right in thining 1.5v is the max for these chips?

 

[os2wiz]

So i'm upto 4.3Ghz atm with 1.30v, I have noticed it goes upto 1.35 in aida64 under stress testing but it's rock solid so i'm happy enough. Still waiting on the mosfets heatsinks coming from china, but shouldn't be much longer now on those so will push it harder then. Still cant work out how the cores would be cooler than the cpu itself though? Am I right in thining 1.5v is the max for these chips?

About 1.57 volts is the limit. I do not think you can do that with your boards very limited power phase control.Even with the heatsinks you plan on installing, I wouldn't raise your voltage above 1.45 or so.

 

[Alcpone]

About 1.57 volts is the limit. I do not think you can do that with your boards very limited power phase control.Even with the heatsinks you plan on installing, I wouldn't raise your voltage above 1.45 or so.

Ok thanks for that. If I can get 4.5/4.6GHz I will be happy, tbh it's mainly for FSX as the other games I play run fine at 4GHz and even stock, it's just FSX needs so much to run decent.

 

[Mathragh]

Still cant work out how the cores would be cooler than the cpu itself though? Am I right in thining 1.5v is the max for these chips?

This is because the core temperature reported by the on-chip sensor isnt really accurate up till a certain point.
Amd's temperature sensor only becomes accurate from 45C and up, so if your temperatures are below 45C, chances are the socket sensor will report something like 40, while the core temps will be still hoovering somewhere close to 30-35.