GTX Titan Owners

[radrok]

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[the54thvoid]

Well i went and did it. I've never flashed a gfx card bios before but i thought the worlds most expensive desktop gfx card was a good place to start

I used GPU-z to download the original BIOS to file. I use Kepler Bios Tweaker to modify the file. All I wanted to do was increase the power draw (from base of 250w to 265w @ 100% and a maximum at 113% @ 300w.)

I also increased max boost to 1254MHz but did not alter voltages.

Thankfully, after the first attempt nothing went wrong but at the same time, no improvements so after a few fiddles around using a very lightly modified BIOS I've come to the conclusion it is not power draw but voltage holding me back.

I have a low ASIC card so it would follow i need more voltage to allow the higher performance. Even at +37mv (max default) and a 300w power limit on the modified BIOS my card still fails at anything higher than 1176MHz. Even at the standard 265w maximum i get the same overclock results.

So i figure if i want to go into 1200MHz territory i need to use the infamous 'naennon' bios from over at Oveclock.net. I just feel hesitant about using another persons BIOS mod.

Anyway, that's me dipped my toes in the firmware modding side now. Far scarier than ripping off a fan and putting a water block on, lol.

But hey, me and my Titan are still alive and he's back on the standard GK110 bios again.

 

[Crap Daddy]

Nice to hear your card survived. Is it 30MHz you're chasing?

 

[radrok]

My order has been delivered, this time I went with a Gainward GTX Titan.

I've never purchased a Gainward product, gonna get it back into my rig cause my first Titan has become a workhorse into my office rig.

I might SLI em in some days

Gonna post some numbers in a few hours.

Please forgive the cellphone pic, I don't have my reflex here.

 

[15th Warlock]

Well i went and did it. I've never flashed a gfx card bios before but i thought the worlds most expensive desktop gfx card was a good place to start

I used GPU-z to download the original BIOS to file. I use Kepler Bios Tweaker to modify the file. All I wanted to do was increase the power draw (from base of 250w to 265w @ 100% and a maximum at 113% @ 300w.)

I also increased max boost to 1254MHz but did not alter voltages.

Thankfully, after the first attempt nothing went wrong but at the same time, no improvements so after a few fiddles around using a very lightly modified BIOS I've come to the conclusion it is not power draw but voltage holding me back.

I have a low ASIC card so it would follow i need more voltage to allow the higher performance. Even at +37mv (max default) and a 300w power limit on the modified BIOS my card still fails at anything higher than 1176MHz. Even at the standard 265w maximum i get the same overclock results.

So i figure if i want to go into 1200MHz territory i need to use the infamous 'naennon' bios from over at Oveclock.net. I just feel hesitant about using another persons BIOS mod.

Anyway, that's me dipped my toes in the firmware modding side now. Far scarier than ripping off a fan and putting a water block on, lol.

But hey, me and my Titan are still alive and he's back on the standard GK110 bios again.

Cheers on flashing your card mate

I wanna ask, were you having any specific issues that lead you to decide to flash your card?

I'm a regular at the EVGA forums and I see some ppl flash their cards with mixed results, but in all cases mods remind ppl that doing so will void their warranty, I'm currently not having any issues like throttling so what benefit should I expect from flashing my cards?

I'm really weary of voiding my warranty, EVGA allows ppl to use water blocks on their cards, but flashing is out of the question, based on your results, do you think the extra OCing headroom makes it worth it?

 

[the54thvoid]

Nice to hear your card survived. Is it 30MHz you're chasing?

lol, yes, pretty much. It's a milestone type of thing! I figure when you spend this much money on a piece of overpriced tech you really don't have that many marbles left. My actions are neither rationale or practical. But they are geek. And by God, that 30MHz is worth it...

Cheers on flashing your card mate

I wanna ask, were you having any specific issues that lead you to decide to flash your card?

I'm a regular at the EVGA forums and I see some ppl flash their cards with mixed results, but in all cases mods remind ppl that doing so will void their warranty, I'm currently not having any issues like throttling so what benefit should I expect from flashing my cards?

I'm really weary of voiding my warranty, EVGA allows ppl to use water blocks on their cards, but flashing is out of the question, based on your results, do you think the extra OCing headroom makes it worth it?

No issues at all mate. Only throttling was temperature based which the water solved. Realistically it clocks as high as my previous MSI 7970 (in fact - higher). Just would have liked if it was as good a clocker as the Powercolor that hit 1300.

But really, the card is a beast and I am very, very happy. Now come on Nvidia, some specific updated Titan drivers would be nice - release the powah!

 

[Finners]

stop being greedy and enjoy your geforce drivers like the rest of us peasants

 

[BiggieShady]

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[15th Warlock]

My actions are neither rationale or practical. But they are geek. And by God, that 30MHz is worth it...
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LOL! For some reason, and for own amusement I'm picturing you saying this phrase in full blown Scottish accent

lol, yes, pretty much. It's a milestone type of thing! I figure when you spend this much money on a piece of overpriced tech you really don't have that many marbles left. My actions are neither rationale or practical. But they are geek. And by God, that 30MHz is worth it...



No issues at all mate. Only throttling was temperature based which the water solved. Realistically it clocks as high as my previous MSI 7970 (in fact - higher). Just would have liked if it was as good a clocker as the Powercolor that hit 1300.

But really, the card is a beast and I am very, very happy. Now come on Nvidia, some specific updated Titan drivers would be nice - release the powah!

Hear hear

Although, I've found the latest releases to increase the performance for my card in accordance to Nvidia's projections for all Kepler cards in their release notes, specially in Tomb Raider and Bioshock: Infinite, it's the same architecture after all

 

[radrok]

Wow I'm actually glad I went with Gainward, it is not probably related to what I'm going to say though.

This card boosts at 1100MHz WITHOUT touching any slider, wow what a good chip I've got.

The Zotac one boosts at 998 MHz.

 

[Nordic]

For some reason, and for own amusement I'm picturing you saying this phrase in full blown Scottish accent

That sounds funny. I imagine it like that speech in braveheart.

 

[15th Warlock]

Wow I'm actually glad I went with Gainward, it is not probably related to what I'm going to say though.

This card boosts at 1100MHz WITHOUT touching any slider, wow what a good chip I've got.

The Zotac one boosts at 998 MHz.

Nice!

Your board temps must be really good for them to boost that much, seems like you have a winner

 

[radrok]

Nice!

Your board temps must be really good for them to boost that much, seems like you have a winner

Yes, my room temps are very good.
I still haven't watercooled the array cause as a rule of thumb I generally wait atleast a week before removing the stock cooler, which will probably annoy me anyway cause it's the best stock cooler I've ever seen.

I thought about using my HK universal waterblocks but I shouldn't really go that way for Titans... should I? lol

I'm just gonna edit instead of double posting.

I've just spotted these...

Gorgeous.

 

[radrok]

I think this deserves a post

I'm amazed, active backplate cooling for Titan.

I'm just going to wait for Aquacomputer.

 

[HammerON]

Very interesting design.

 

[bpgt64]

Wow I'm actually glad I went with Gainward, it is not probably related to what I'm going to say though.

This card boosts at 1100MHz WITHOUT touching any slider, wow what a good chip I've got.

The Zotac one boosts at 998 MHz.

I think this is actually quiet common, not to be a buzzkill. Atleast I have seen mine(EVGA stock) do it if my case is venting properly(fans are turns on to full). Basically if the card is within reasonable temps, it keeps overclocking itself till it hits the temperature limit. Which, is why I always turn my fan speed to maximum for the GPU prior to bench-marking. It lets the card go ahead and start pushing beyond the boost clock.

 

[DarkFX]

This isn't a club house. It's to discuss the clocking/throttling (non-issue) and other Titan related info that might help those stupid bastards that bought one to get more out of it.

Proud Owners of Titans
the54thvoid
m6tzg6r
radrok
15th Warlock
MetalRacer
fusionblu
bpgt64

I've just installed mine (on air - block hasn't arrived yet - bloody Slovenian company) and I can say I'm pretty happy. I've run Heaven 3.0, 3DMark (2013 version) and played some BF3 and TR.

My fps in BF3 are capped by a config at 65 so I've noticed no issue there.
Heaven ran fine (1920x1080, Tess = moderate, 8xAF, no AA), got 51.1 - 215.7 (average 111.5)
With my previous crossfire set up (as above) I got 63.5 -373.0 (average 199.6).
Clocks on Titan were about 1000 (boost) and on the 7970's I used 1150?

So BF3 and Heaven showed no benefit, obviously.


However, Tomb Raider ran just as smooth (2560x1440) Ultra, everything on (inc TressFX) except AA. FPS were markedly lower but visually played as well as crossfire. If this is poorly optimised for Nvidia, I cant wait to see how it flies when it's fixed.

Biggest noticeable change? 3DMark. Lower scores but the final Firestrike mixed test on crossfire was very choppy. To the point I put it down to it being such a tough test. But on the Titan it was the same slow mo speed but absolutely fluid.

I've not really played with clocks too much as it hits 79 degrees and clocks drop. I'll wait for my water block before pushing things a bit higher - hoping for 1100 steady boost (maybe 10% performance).

I may also hold off on the block until the back plates are released as well. The back needs love too!

The water cooling wont be for noise benefit because it is genuinely a beautifully quiet card.

Worth the money? - Not a flippin' chance but if you want to spend the money, it is worth it.


The old boys. One was bought custom cooled (Powercolor LCS) the other was fully customised by me (block, backplate, single slot i/o)

http://img.techpowerup.org/130307/IMG_0696.jpg

The new soul. Needs to take that jacket off for something more watery.

http://img.techpowerup.org/130307/IMG_0697.jpg

Closer...

http://img.techpowerup.org/130307/IMG_0698.jpg

You know... The Titan is a big waste of money. I have more than enough to buy one, and i did.

I bought the top model (EVGA 6 Gb ). I had it for two weeks, then i sold it, and put in my old GtX 690 again. If you look at any benchmark test, you will see that you will need to run two Titan's in SLI to beat a 690 in raw rendering performance ( FPS LAU performance ).

The Titan series is a pure market advantage Nvidia is using. It's bullshit.

You = Real good with your money, http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qf8nssHo1qbaj4uo1_500.gif

 

[bpgt64]

You know... The Titan is a big waste of money. I have more than enough to buy one, and i did.

I bought the top model (EVGA 6 Gb ). I had it for two weeks, then i sold it, and put in my old GtX 690 again. If you look at any benchmark test, you will see that you will need to run two Titan's in SLI to beat a 690 in raw rendering performance ( FPS LAU performance ).

The Titan series is a pure market advantage Nvidia is using. It's bullshit.

You = Real good with your money, http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qf8nssHo1qbaj4uo1_500.gif

no wai

 

[radrok]

You know... The Titan is a big waste of money. I have more than enough to buy one, and i did.

I bought the top model (EVGA 6 Gb ). I had it for two weeks, then i sold it, and put in my old GtX 690 again. If you look at any benchmark test, you will see that you will need to run two Titan's in SLI to beat a 690 in raw rendering performance ( FPS LAU performance ).

The Titan series is a pure market advantage Nvidia is using. It's bullshit.

You = Real good with your money, http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qf8nssHo1qbaj4uo1_500.gif

You are funny

 

[the54thvoid]

I'm very glad you seem so annoyed at me for my purchase. I'm happy you feel so negative. I'm enjoying the hypocrisy of your post. Remember you did buy a Titan. You knew how much it cost and you should have known it wasn't as fast in pure fps as a 690. I'm glad you moved back to 690 instead of Titan. I'm glad you've spent so much money when you should have known it was not faster than a 690. Well done for that btw. I had 2 7970's in crossfire and wanted a smoother experience. Single card was best option but at my res, full FX are costly in fps. Titan is the only single gpu card capable to drive current titles at reasonable frames.
And we all knew it was very expensive when we bought it. My entire PC is one big money pit. Most tech enthusiasts PC's are.

I like the clapping man image btw, he appears to be applauding my move to single gpu, power saving gaming smoothness and excellent budgeting powers . Now, get back under your little bridge and sulk on somebody else's thread.

You know... The Titan is a big waste of money. I have more than enough to buy one, and i did.

I bought the top model (EVGA 6 Gb ). I had it for two weeks, then i sold it, and put in my old GtX 690 again. If you look at any benchmark test, you will see that you will need to run two Titan's in SLI to beat a 690 in raw rendering performance ( FPS LAU performance ).

The Titan series is a pure market advantage Nvidia is using. It's bullshit.

You = Real good with your money, http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qf8nssHo1qbaj4uo1_500.gif

 

[radrok]

I'm very glad you seem so annoyed at me for my purchase. I'm happy you feel so negative. I'm enjoying the hypocrisy of your post. Remember you did buy a Titan. You knew how much it cost and you should have known it wasn't as fast in pure fps as a 690. I'm glad you moved back to 690 instead of Titan. I'm glad you've spent so much money when you should have known it was not faster than a 690. Well done for that btw. I had 2 7970's in crossfire and wanted a smoother experience. Single card was best option but at my res, full FX are costly in fps. Titan is the only single gpu card capable to drive current titles at reasonable frames.
And we all knew it was very expensive when we bought it. My entire PC is one big money pit. Most tech enthusiasts PC's are.

I like the clapping man image btw, he appears to be applauding my move to single gpu, power saving gaming smoothness and excellent budgeting powers . Now, get back under your little bridge and sulk on somebody else's thread.

The fact he moved back to a GTX 690 makes me think he never owned a Titan.

Especially because he used "benchmark tests" as an argument instead of his own experience.

 

[the54thvoid]

Yeah, you'd also be pretty dim to ditch a 690 having seen the reviews unless the card was poorly performing.

The fact he moved back to a GTX 690 makes me think he never owned a Titan.

Especially because he used "benchmark tests" as an argument instead of his own experience.

 

[DarkFX]

I'm very glad you seem so annoyed at me for my purchase. I'm happy you feel so negative. I'm enjoying the hypocrisy of your post. Remember you did buy a Titan. You knew how much it cost and you should have known it wasn't as fast in pure fps as a 690. I'm glad you moved back to 690 instead of Titan. I'm glad you've spent so much money when you should have known it was not faster than a 690. Well done for that btw. I had 2 7970's in crossfire and wanted a smoother experience. Single card was best option but at my res, full FX are costly in fps. Titan is the only single gpu card capable to drive current titles at reasonable frames.
And we all knew it was very expensive when we bought it. My entire PC is one big money pit. Most tech enthusiasts PC's are.

I like the clapping man image btw, he appears to be applauding my move to single gpu, power saving gaming smoothness and excellent budgeting powers . Now, get back under your little bridge and sulk on somebody else's thread.

The fact he moved back to a GTX 690 makes me think he never owned a Titan.

Especially because he used "benchmark tests" as an argument instead of his own experience.

Yeah, you'd also be pretty dim to ditch a 690 having seen the reviews unless the card was poorly performing.

Think what you want, but i'm only playing MMO (Firefall, WoW, LoL), which makes the 690 the right choice.

I referred to BT because i have no reference in other games, since i did not test it much in games as BF3 and HawkX (Generally heavy non-lan rendering) , and i did not do any major tests myself.

 

[radrok]

GTX 690 right choice for Firefall, Wow and LoL?

You can run those games with older generation graphics cards without any issue.

WoW is so old it practically runs on an 8800 GTX, same for LoL.

I used to run WoW years ago on a 7800 GTX SLI.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

I'm very glad you seem so annoyed at me for my purchase. I'm happy you feel so negative. I'm enjoying the hypocrisy of your post. Remember you did buy a Titan. You knew how much it cost and you should have known it wasn't as fast in pure fps as a 690. I'm glad you moved back to 690 instead of Titan. I'm glad you've spent so much money when you should have known it was not faster than a 690. Well done for that btw. I had 2 7970's in crossfire and wanted a smoother experience. Single card was best option but at my res, full FX are costly in fps. Titan is the only single gpu card capable to drive current titles at reasonable frames.
And we all knew it was very expensive when we bought it. My entire PC is one big money pit. Most tech enthusiasts PC's are.

I like the clapping man image btw, he appears to be applauding my move to single gpu, power saving gaming smoothness and excellent budgeting powers . Now, get back under your little bridge and sulk on somebody else's thread.

Just saw some truly horrific frame time benchmarks of HD 7970 CF. In few minutes after that I ordered EVGA GTX TITAN SC. Never ever again SLI or CrossFire

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Test-5