Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell

PatoRodrigues · Jun 2, 2013

TTL reached 5GHz with the Gaming GD65...

Hoping to see some golden and DELIDDED chips soon... A custom loop should keep 5+GHz clocks under safe temperatures.

Ikaruga · Jun 2, 2013

Thanks for the review.

Oh man, you probably got the worst sample on the planet. Did you try it in a different mobo, because maxing out at 4.2 sounds almost unreal? It seems like that messing with the BCLK just makes things worse for most of the people, but looks like 45-47x100 is easily doable between 1.2-1.3V with most of the chips out there, ( well, except in your case:/ ).

I like the new cpu btw, especiall the fact that it's a lot faster in rendering (more than 20% in mental ray for example; probably because the "slower" L3 cache doesn't really affect rendering applications, while the faster architecture delivers more multithreaded computational power).

I know that you need to spend your money on a good GPU nowadays, but I will get a 4770k for sure.

ArchStupid · Jun 2, 2013

james888 said:
So the results really show cpu performance, not gpu performance.

Unfortunatly it doesn't work that way. If the GPU is a bottleneck for the system then upgrading he CPU will have next to no effect on performance in games (in most games at least). The higher the resolution the more evident this is because higher resolution alone mostly just increases the load on the GPU.

Ikaruga · Jun 2, 2013

ArchStupid said:
Unfortunatly it doesn't work that way. If the GPU is a bottleneck for the system then upgrading he CPU will have next to no effect on performance in games (in most games at least). The higher the resolution the more evident this is because higher resolution alone mostly just increases the load on the GPU.

Let me feed you a little bit

There are about ~20 games out there where CPU matters in 1080p or above, and the rest of the games are all GPU bond/limited (means: you get 1-5fps difference with all kind of CPUs). And even half of those ~20 games are so old (like Far Cry2 for example) that you already get 60+fps with an i3 sandy, so you really need to dig around to get some CPU bond games where switching to Haswell would actually matter.

So no, this test doesn't really need a dedicated GPU section imo.

(Well, things could change when the new PS4-Xbox1 ports will arrive, but lets not jump into conclusions about things we don't have actual test data)

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Jun 2, 2013

v12dock said:
I am tempted to drive to Chicago also and upgrading from a x3440 it would be quite the upgrade

Indeed that would be. Still highly debating it. Id get back into crunching if i had an i7. Then again, my H60 prob wouldnt be supported by the 1150 board.

drdeathx · Jun 2, 2013

BorisDG said:
Hold little more. Ivy-E is coming later this later, so I think will be better buy.

??? They will be $500+ except if they make the 3820 comparable.

suraswami · Jun 2, 2013

not sure if anybody already asked in the last 4 pages, is there power consumption improvements?

v12dock · Jun 2, 2013

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
Indeed that would be. Still highly debating it. Id get back into crunching if i had an i7. Then again, my H60 prob wouldnt be supported by the 1150 board.

I am concerned my noctua nh-d14 will not fit, although if I can find the 1150 mounting specs I will just make my own bracket

cadaveca · Jun 2, 2013

v12dock said:
I am concerned my noctua nh-d14 will not fit, although if I can find the 1150 mounting specs I will just make my own bracket

mountings are the same as 1156/1155. No need to worry at all.

Plus, it's Noctua. If there was, they'd offer replacement brackets, for free. They always do.

PopcornMachine · Jun 2, 2013

Two major releases this week.

A re-branded GTX 680, and CPU not all that different than Ivy Bridge.

I could say "welcome to last year", but instead I'll just say "meh".

Nothing at all to get excited about.

fullinfusion · Jun 2, 2013

Ib here I come!

NC37 · Jun 3, 2013

Well, Intel is still behind APUs on graphics. Some of the early previews made it seem like they had caught up but after seeing this and others...ehhh. Intel graphics are still crap, the world is safe for now! :toast:

Yellow&Nerdy? · Jun 3, 2013

NC37 said:
Well, Intel is still behind APUs on graphics. Some of the early previews made it seem like they had caught up but after seeing this and others...ehhh. Intel graphics are still crap, the world is safe for now!

Actually, you can't really say that. Intel didn't put the fastest IGP's in these top-end desktop CPU's, the Intel Integrated Graphics 5000 is only going in low-end CPU's as well as mobile CPU's, which makes sense. For all I care, they should disable the IGP on the K-series processors.

Frick · Jun 3, 2013

Yellow&Nerdy? said:
Actually, you can't really say that. Intel didn't put the fastest IGP's in these top-end desktop CPU's, the Intel Integrated Graphics 5000 is only going in low-end CPU's as well as mobile CPU's, which makes sense. For all I care, they should disable the IGP on the K-series processors.

The "iris" gpu is in high end cpu's actually. And that beats Trinity.

NeoXF · Jun 3, 2013

9.5 for this piece of crap!? Really now? April's Fool was 2 months ago guys... I can't even begin to enumarate all the wrong in this review...

In conclusion, all credibility for this website, gone.

FireKillerGR · Jun 3, 2013

I really dont think that this piece of crap has any negative points except the overclocking results. Which may be a result of a bad cpu.
You CANNOT judge a whole series of "craps" (as you said) because one didnt achive the expected when it comes to the overclocking results...

Trying to be objective though you cant buy anything better for those money, thats for sure.

eidairaman1 · Jun 3, 2013

This isn't much different than ivb or sb, they should of made it 1155 instead of 1150, Intels being tools and personally this cpu deserves a 10 pt reduction for not being any different that past parts.

FireKillerGR · Jun 3, 2013

Dont want to start a disagreement

But I really dont find it that bad having a cpu which performs better on most benchmarks with lower temperatures than the previous series.

Anyway as I said it doesnt worth an upgrade from ivy to haswell but it does if the person comes from a series like sandy or from an older one.

Deleted member 24505 · Jun 3, 2013

I'm building a new machine in a month, so I will be building Haswell, may as well as it's a new build and I'm using a athlon64 3200+ :eek:

V3ctor · Jun 3, 2013

I sold my 2600k 3 months ago, so I have to buy this new 4770k...

Just hope I'll get at least 4.6Ghz... Without improving my cooling in my SS FT02.

Like FireKillerGR said (i think!), we had great overclockers (SB and IB to some extent), and we were spoiled... Inte'ls goal now is efficiency and the enthusiast guys are left in the dust...

I guess that Intel is puting the cheap TIM in the cpu's do we don't overclock them like hell, maybe they are extremely voltage sensitive. And they could only limit the OC by "adding" heat to the equation...

Anyway, later this evening I'll be playing with my 4770k, hoping it's a good bin... if not... I'll change it when the new tick appears (14nm I think), maybe then we'll see some Haswell power...

Yellow&Nerdy? · Jun 3, 2013

FireKillerGR said:
Dont want to start a disagreement
But I really dont find it that bad having a cpu which performs better on most benchmarks with lower temperatures than the previous series.

Anyway as I said it doesnt worth an upgrade from ivy to haswell but it does if the person comes from a series like sandy or from an older one.

Hey Fire, mind if I as a couple of questions about your cooling setup and the temps you got? I couldn't seem to find the info in the review, and it would help me in deciding what CPU-cooler I should pair with a Haswell. What cooling solution do you use, and was the test done on a test bench?

FireKillerGR · Jun 3, 2013

oh sorry
I used the Prolimatech Megahalems with a Sunon (110Cfm) @7V to be quite.
Tim is for sure better than the previous series. I tried 4.4GHz with 1.35 yesterday got 76C

V3ctor said:
I sold my 2600k 3 months ago, so I have to buy this new 4770k...

Just hope I'll get at least 4.6Ghz... Without improving my cooling in my SS FT02.

Like FireKillerGR said (i think!), we had great overclockers (SB and IB to some extent), and we were spoiled... Inte'ls goal now is efficiency and the enthusiast guys are left in the dust...

I guess that Intel is puting the cheap TIM in the cpu's do we don't overclock them like hell, maybe they are extremely voltage sensitive. And they could only limit the OC by "adding" heat to the equation...

Anyway, later this evening I'll be playing with my 4770k, hoping it's a good bin... if not... I'll change it when the new tick appears (14nm I think), maybe then we'll see some Haswell power...

TIM seems to be better than the one used on Ivy series. So, it isnt matter of temperatures, at least based on monitoring.

V3ctor · Jun 3, 2013

If its not TIM, then it's the new architecture... its bad to OC... lets see if AMD can at least come close to the performance of SB.

Scrizz · Jun 3, 2013

kid41212003 said:
man, ur name is so true

lol

Deleted member 24505 · Jun 3, 2013

Like has been already said some were, SKT1150 is new so it kinda pays to be on new chip/skt/chipset. It seems yet another INTEL socket is destined for the bin of history, 775, and 1156 are history, how long has 1155 got, it's inevitable now I guess.

I'm looking forward to playing with Z87, plus the boards are pretty cheap in the uk, £105 for a Asrock Z87 Pro 3, and £150 for a Intel Core i5-4430, not bad and I CBA with overclocking no more :eek:

Boards start at £90 and CPU's at £150 so at least prices are good, no reason to buy 1155 + IVY no more imo.

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