Intel Haswell 35W Dual-Core i5-4570T Benchmarks Surface Online

[TheinsanegamerN]

So why are they calling this an i5-4570? This is an i3, and it shouldn't have the same number as a Quad-Core part, it will just confuse the customer.

the reason it doesnt have the i3 branding- it has turbo boost. no core i3 has turbo boost. if it didnt...it would be a i3

basically
-single cores, low end dual cores are celeron
-higher end dual cores are pentium
-dual cores with hyper-threading are core i3
-all quad cores without hyper-threading and any dual cores with turbo boost are core i5
-all quad cores with hyper-threading are core i7 (with one exception, the dual core mobile i7, which is clocked at or over 3 ghz during typical load and has an extra MB of l3 cache).

edit- i accidentally a word.

 

[Melvis]

Real Interesting when I change the test game on that site the results tell a different story:

http://img.techpowerup.org/130707/Interesting.png

Thats it and if anyone knows how ANNO 1404 or this one works it loves or prefers single core performance, it just one of those games that dont like or work well with multi cored CPU's. Its not the CPU's fault, its the developers been lazy.

So why are they calling this an i5-4570? This is an i3, and it shouldn't have the same number as a Quad-Core part, it will just confuse the customer.

Agreed

 

[Aquinus]

It's also worth noting that i3s don't have boost and i5s do.

 

[kukreknecmi]

So Haswell i3's may be at most 35w TDP, seems fine. Beside Skyrim, it will be in the same level of i3, Phenom x4, fx 6300 more or less.

 

[newtekie1]

the reason it doesnt have the i3 branding- it has turbo boost. no core i3 has turbo boost. if it didnt...it would be a i3

basically
-single cores, low end dual cores are celeron
-higher end dual cores are pentium
-dual cores with hyper-threading are core i3
-all quad cores without hyper-threading and any dual cores with turbo boost are core i5
-all quad cores with hyper-threading are core i7 (with one exception, the dual core mobile i7, which is clocked at or over 3 ghz during typical load and has an extra MB of l3 cache).

edit- i accidentally a word.

It's also worth noting that i3s don't have boost and i5s do.

That is fine, you're all ignoring the second part of my statement. If they are going to call it an i5 don't give it the same model number as a faster quad-core part and just stick a T at the end, that is designed to fool the customer. Call it an i5-4370 or something.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

That is fine, you're all ignoring the second part of my statement. If they are going to call it an i5 don't give it the same model number as a faster quad-core part and just stick a T at the end, that is designed to fool the customer. Call it an i5-4370 or something.

here's what wont fool the customer: this model will be more expensive. consumer sees this. consumer steers away, and towards the cheaper i3. besides, if it was the i5-4370, then people would complain that it has a core i3 model number, but with the core i5 moniker in front, and that it would confuse consumers.

 

[newtekie1]

here's what wont fool the customer: this model will be more expensive. consumer sees this. consumer steers away, and towards the cheaper i3. besides, if it was the i5-4370, then people would complain that it has a core i3 model number, but with the core i5 moniker in front, and that it would confuse consumers.

Assuming they stick with the same system as Ivy, the i3's will have i3-42XX part numbers just like IvyBridge i3's were i3-32XX. So calling this an i5-43XX wouldn't interfere with the i3 naming.

 

[Aquinus]

Assuming they stick with the same system as Ivy, the i3's will have i3-42XX part numbers just like IvyBridge i3's were i3-32XX. So calling this an i5-43XX wouldn't interfere with the i3 naming.

We just got some new Macbook Airs at work that have some i5-4250Us in them. If you're really looking at the model number, there is a really good bet that you're looking at the specs of the CPU too. I don't see what the big deal is to be completely honest.

Also the i3s only sport 3Mb of L3 as opposed to the i5 dual cores with 4Mb on desktops. So model number aside, the CPU being an "i5" means something. The model number means something different. Maybe I just look at it differently.

 

[newtekie1]

We just got some new Macbook Airs at work that have some i5-4250Us in them. If you're really looking at the model number, there is a really good bet that you're looking at the specs of the CPU too. I don't see what the big deal is to be completely honest.

Also the i3s only sport 3Mb of L3 as opposed to the i5 dual cores with 4Mb on desktops. So model number aside, the CPU being an "i5" means something. The model number means something different. Maybe I just look at it differently.

Ha, people buying pre-builts will easily buy this thinking it is the same CPU as the regular i5-4570. If the two computers are sitting on the shelf next to each other at best buy, the average consumer won't be able to tell the difference.

 

[de.das.dude]

It manages to edge competing solutions from AMD, with more number of cores and many factors higher TDP, in some of the benchies.

thats cuz the gpu portion on this shit is ... shit.

 

[Aquinus]

Ha, people buying pre-builts will easily buy this thinking it is the same CPU as the regular i5-4570. If the two computers are sitting on the shelf next to each other at best buy, the average consumer won't be able to tell the difference.

If you're really going to go there, the average consumer is not like you and I and most likely doesn't need a quad-core in the first place. So what it actually is aside, someone who doesn't know what their buying probably doesn't need it, isn't going to care and/or isn't going to notice. The vast majority of people use computers for things that a G2020 can do fine.

 

[de.das.dude]

If you're really going to go there, the average consumer is not like you and I and most likely doesn't need a quad-core in the first place. So what it actually is aside, someone who doesn't know what their buying probably doesn't need it, isn't going to care and/or isn't going to notice. The vast majority of people use computers for things that a G2020 can do fine.

its not entirely true that the avg customer doent need a quad core cpu. Day by day this has become false and there are certain advantages to a quad core even for normal users. 4T is always better.

 

[Frick]

its not entirely true that the avg customer doent need a quad core cpu. Day by day this has become false and there are certain advantages to a quad core even for normal users. 4T is always better.

Oh it's true all right, and it will stay that way for years.

 

[Aquinus]

its not entirely true that the avg customer doent need a quad core cpu. Day by day this has become false and there are certain advantages to a quad core even for normal users. 4T is always better.

The average user uses a web browser, plays music, video, and manages pictures. The average user does not play incredibly demanding games, convert video, or benchmark. These are things that a 2c/4t CPU will handle just fine. The 1.8Ghz/2.8Ghz boost i5 2c/4t chip in my Macbook Air is more than enough for work and everyday tasks. It even plays Minecraft pretty well.

All in all, in general, your statement is false and the average consumer won't need it. The average TPU user is not the average consumer.

Oh it's true all right, and it will stay that way for years.

At least someone understands what I'm trying to say.

 

[Fourstaff]

The average user uses a web browser, plays music, video, and manages pictures. The average user does not play incredibly demanding games, convert video, or benchmark. These are things that a 2c/4t CPU will handle just fine. The 1.8Ghz/2.8Ghz boost i5 2c/4t chip in my Macbook Air is more than enough for work and everyday tasks. It even plays Minecraft pretty well.

All in all, in general, your statement is false and the average consumer won't need it. The average TPU user is not the average consumer.

I second this. If you look at all those tablets sold you will understand why "the general public" doesn't really need anything more than 2 threads. Hell, even I manage to survive on 2core/2thread all these years (and even playing games like Starcraft II, Dota 2, World of Tanks, etc). To be fair, I had access to 3770K for work (and the occasional Diablo III), but I don't "work" at home.