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[1nf3rn0x]

Flashed 4.4 to my nexus 4 and running ART. Can say it is pretty smooth and running fast. Using the GEL launcher too, battery life also seems better. I can say android is heading in the right direction, especially with ART, haven't run into any instability yet. Android is finally turning into something really pretty.

 

[GreiverBlade]

getting a used S3 .... now i need to wait a bit to order a UAG Aviator case...

 

[scoutingwraith]

getting a used S3 .... now i need to wait a bit to order a UAG Aviator case...

I have the same case and its awesome. Makes the phone to be held really comfortably. I got the all black one.

 

[GreiverBlade]

actually i recieved it with a free black flip leather Xquisit and its a pebble blue (which i mistook for a Titanium silver ) i was going for the UAG Valkyrie, obviously not because of the USS Valkyrie in CoD:Ghost, but more because of the Valkyries in the manga/manhwa "Freezing"... (or just because i like the name ) buuuttt the color isn't at my taste so choosing beside black, navy blue and green camo, was pretty easy ... everybody has black white blue in the end that pinkish red of the Valkyrie sounded not so bad but green camo is a bit less "HEY I'M HERE!"

 

[GreiverBlade]

welp guess theres not going to be any more updates for the S3. Haven't gotten any since 4.2.1

whaaattt 4.2.1 ? i did all the updates of my S3 that i recieved today (second hand as said above) and the version is 4.1.2 ... CURSE YOU SWISSCOM! that's mainly why i hate branded phone, aside from the fugly boot animation and tone really need to root and go custom...

 

[Mussels]

Hey Mussels,
Is there anything that does?

not that i know of. android has locked down apps on SD cards because faulty SD cards were a MAJOR cause of OS brickery and crashes.


a few pages got removed from this sadly


got a galaxy tab 1 and modified it to be all nice and snazzy. new 4.2.2 based rom (it was gingerbread at stock) and OC'd to 1.2GHz for a decent table for $60. does calls and text now too.

whaaattt 4.2.1 ? i did all the upgrades of my S3 that i recieved today (second hand as said above) and the version is 4.1.2 ... CURSE YOU SWISSCOM! that's mainly why i hate branded phone, aside from the fugly boot animation and tone really need to root and go custom...

the s3 is capped at 4.1.2 *for now* with official 4.3 working its way out slowly due to bugs (samsung recalled the firmware). 4.2 was skipped on the s3.

you can get all the way up to 4.4 if you go cyanogen mod, and ditch all the samsung stuff.

 

[GreiverBlade]

indeed Mussels, i intend to go that way i never owned a stock android phone or bloatwar'ed rom for long... and i've indeed read that the 4.3 from samsung was pretty messed up (battery and locking issues)

 

[Mussels]

indeed Mussels, i intend to go that way i never owned a stock android phone or bloatwar'ed rom for long... and i've indeed read that the 4.3 from samsung was pretty messed up (battery and locking issues)

4.3 is fantastic on the S4 and most of the fixes are related - stuff like TRIM support really do help the phones out. just wait for it to be stable.

 

[GreiverBlade]

obviously its fantastic on S4 ... applesung aherm i mean Samsung ... give no damn for the "obsolet"S3 they want it to die "recalled firmware" is a hidden word for "oops they caught us, quick we must react" no samsung rom are good (imo) AOKP AOSP or pure google done by good dev is way above branded roms

btw samsung is good only on 2nd hand and modified. you know, when they are at the right price that suits cheap chinese plastic, i paid my S3 a bit less than my UMI X1 (which is a cheap chinese copycat of the GS2 mostly) again its only my oppinion but i considere it absolute. (for me)

 

[Mussels]

obviously its fantastic on S4 ... applesung aherm i mean Samsung ... give no damn for the "obsolet"S3 they want it to die "recalled firmware" is a hidden word for "oops they caught us, quick we must react" no samsung rom are good (imo) AOKP AOSP or pure google done by good dev is way above branded roms

btw samsung is good only on 2nd hand and modified. you know, when they are at the right price that suits cheap chinese plastic, i paid my S3 a bit less than my UMI X1 (which is a cheap chinese copycat of the GS2 mostly) again its only my oppinion but i considere it absolute. (for me)

i've got two S3's here as well both on modded versions of the S3's stock rom (debloated basically, with OCing capable kernels) and they're just freakin sweet. apart from a slightly nicer screen (the s3 has silly curved glass making screen protectors a bitch) and a better home button placement, i cant really tell the difference when using them.

 

[DanishDevil]

Got a very nice surprise today on my Verizon Moto X, ANDROID 4.4!!!

 

[GreiverBlade]

i've got two S3's here as well both on modded versions of the S3's stock rom (debloated basically, with OCing capable kernels) and they're just freakin sweet. apart from a slightly nicer screen (the s3 has silly curved glass making screen protectors a bitch) and a better home button placement, i cant really tell the difference when using them.

i went Temasek's 4.4 CM11 just fine i didn't tried ART but just fine (tho some of my favorites apk won't run nearly all the rest is perfect) overall 17K Antutu on Dalvik and 18k+ on ART (i tried just for bench ) need extensive test and once im done i will try a 4.4 Kernel with OC

 

[Mussels]

new update to the rom i'm on (echoe v9) with a new base from samsung. update time!

 

[digibucc]

so my evo lte died, and now i ordered a nexus 5 direct from google. last thing i wanted was to spend more money right now but i am definitely looking forward to it

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Is is worth running cyanogenmod on an S3? im only interested because you dont need to root your handset to get the installer to work. Otherwise ive been using the stock rom since i got it

 

[Mussels]

Is is worth running cyanogenmod on an S3? im only interested because you dont need to root your handset to get the installer to work. Otherwise ive been using the stock rom since i got it

personally i'd say go a custom rom, if you have a 305 grab the same one i have (rxtreme, its on xda)

 

[FreedomEclipse]

personally i'd say go a custom rom, if you have a 305 grab the same one i have (rxtreme, its on xda)

Only have an i9300 unfortunately. Does the installer let you pick which rom to install?

 

[Mussels]

Only have an i9300 unfortunately. Does the installer let you pick which rom to install?

no idea, i've never used the new 'easy' installer and instead prefer to do it manually. i always go for a custom kernel on a modified stock rom - so a samsung base with bloat removed, and root features added. gives me all the stock features and upto double the battery life with under/over volting and clocking.

 

[GreiverBlade]

using the Temasek's unofficial CM11 V10 with Boeffla's Kernel CM11 2.1, i don't know about CM installer anymore ahah google asked the team to remove it from the playstore, oh and yes you don't need to root your phone ... : the installer will root your phone if he is not) in other words, custom rom kernel or whatever interesting : root obligatory, the only thing not interesting on any android device is not rooting it.

the process of root (with odin) flashing a recovery (with rom manager lite or pro) flashing a rom (with CWM 6.x.x.x+) is so simple, the CM installer is not really more simple. all tutorial are well explained on XDA GT-I9300 android developement subforum (for CM11 and non stock)

battery life better combo (if you are in my case and like to test 4.4, since samsung did a fubar 4.3), then Temasek's CM11+PA GAPPS+Boeffla's 2.1 CM11 Kernel with the Boeffla's control app from the store and with the preset battery saving or battery friendly, i get from 2 days to 2 days and a half instead of 1 day on battery, also with the profile "power extreme" no PSP games run under 49-60fps in PPSSPP, ART instead of Dalvik, Antutu : 20820 which put that GT-I9300 above the Xperia Z, Note2 and the Nexus 10, 4k~ under the HTC One (QC S600) 5k~ under the S4 with the fake Octa (4+4) and 7k under the S4 (QC S600) , not bad for a Quadcore Cortex A9 Exynos 4412 with a Mali 400MP4.

raw computational power single core and multi is 31755 and 127020 when you compare to other more modern S.O.C it place it between the Exynos 5 5410 Octa 28150 and the 5 Octa 5420 34020 a S600 is 34300 Tegra4 36860 a core I3-M330 45720D) S800 45720 (yup a Qualcomm S800 is on par with a i3-M330) i3-3110M 62200 i7-950 80150 FX 8150 95310 (its from the app CPU identifier reliable or not ... i don't precisely know )

it's a Nightlie (aka it could be unstable) but pretty much good to go as a daily runner i'm amazed of the stability and the regular update from Temasek's (way more reliable than the brand's roms) and 4.4 have a really nice feel (got to get used to some news feature, the phone app is kinda disturbing at first time)

funniest fact ever 4.4 optimize Android for phone with 512mb ram and more, which make more and more "old" model eligible for a custom based 4.4, so if a brand say "your device can't or will not handle KitKat" then it's pretty much a "we want that device to die so just buy our latest new and supported device" thanks XDA to be here... (plus, being Swiss i would be sad to not have 4.4 nestlé and KitKat: Swiss ) 4.4 on Note2 and S3 is not scheduled before 2014 and mostly after the S4 who will be updated in January, rumor about no 4.4 before GS V because Samsung would like to launch it with 4.4 ... way to go sammy delay a update who is already available for weeks to a couple of month because of your next flagship ahahah oh wait don't care Samsung stock roms are dirt-bag (unless modified and de-bloated)

 

[Mussels]

looks like ktoonsez on xda has made huge leaps and bounds with getting kitkat working on the s4, so i'm expecting that soon (samsung 4.4, not CM)

 

[GreiverBlade]

well 4.4 on the S3 is live and working CM but not Samsung, getting 4.4 working on a S4 should have nothing to do with a close release date of "Samsung rom" right?

making huge leaps and bounds getting KK working on a S4 as i have a fully working near stable one on a S3 ? they should be at the same stage or even further

by the way what are Samsung stock features? S-Voice and such? for me they are bloatware, furthermore you can have them on CM if needed (some of them are on the playstore too, or even better alternatives)

 

[Mussels]

it seems that even with CM, theres a lot of bugs to be worked out on the s4 at least - and a bunch of the stock features just got 'fixed'.


looking forward to it working, kitkat is a true evolution and not just patches on top. ART instead of dalvik is exactly the under the hood change we need to shake things up and dethrone IOS for good.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Bleh, ill try running the cm installer at some point and see where it gets me. Too lazy to learn to root but once cm is installed its automatically rooted

 

[Mussels]

Bleh, ill try running the cm installer at some point and see where it gets me. Too lazy to learn to root but once cm is installed its automatically rooted

most of the time its either:

run an app
connect USB to PC and run program on PC
flash a zip file in recovery mode

 

[GreiverBlade]

indeed CM11 is nightlies state still i use it daily and with ART activated i don't encounter many FC or bugs, its either that i'm lucky or that Temasek is a really good cooker ...

well as long as you can get the CM installer from other sources than google play it's nothing to worry about but since the CM11 on S3 is unofficial: it will not be possible with the installer iirc, only CM9 CM10 will be available. still a major improvement over a stock rom tho.

most of the time its either:

run an app
connect USB to PC and run program on PC
flash a zip file in recovery mode

was about to say that ... Odin rooting is just too easy and after that DL from google play Rom Manager and flash recovery (Clockworkmod preferably) then just follow any thread on XDA about a custom rom (that's what i did with my CM11)